Why don't we have our own officiating crew?

Jerry

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We didn't lose because of the refs. That's true. There were some questionable things, that's also true. It's still an interesting theoretical discussion.

That said, it looks like the offsides was not actually an offsides. The replay shows that he was not across the line. Our O-line just didn't get off the ball until he was a yard behind them.

YouTube - (HD) Stanford player times the snap perfectly vs. Notre Dame

That's such a lucky play. 9 times out of 10 your offsides. Somebody called it brilliant earlier in the thread but it's just luck and makes the LBer look like a genius.
 

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Not to say that we lose solely because of officiating, but the integrity of the rules should be upheld. When an entire crew misses a blatant defensive offsides by Stanford, I lose all confidence in the belief that the officiating is unbiased. Same with the third down spot that Stanford got, which was challenged.

It is supposed to be home field advantage right? Don't we have officials for the blue and gold game? Is it really cost? If we can't have our own crew, why not use a conference's that we do not play?

The away team brings the officals to the game. This is agreed upon before a team is scheduled to play a game. ND uses Big East officals when they are on the road.
 

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Yeah dude. Everyone hates us. That is why we have our own tv contract. Give me a break. Talking about the officials after game like this is akin to the Germans complaining about their boot shine boy the day after the Normandy invasion.

I dispute that it has anything to do with officials. If the officiating was screwing us (it isn't) then we should join a conference. Thinking we could bring our own officials to our own games is beyond a ridiculous suggestion or even a bit#h point.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Are you being serious right now? Please leave, because you are doing a very poor job of disguising the fact that you are a fan of some other team on here calling yourself one of us.

Are you going to tell me refs didn't screw up? Yes or no. No "we this, we that" crap.
 

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There are so many blown calls that go against ND, that it's hard for me not to believe there is a conspiracy. I like to pride myself on trying to stay objective, but damn, how many times can we get screwed? In fairness, I don't watch any other teams religiously like I watch ND, so I don't know if there are other programs taking it as hard as we are.
 

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I think the terrible call was the spot. After a bad spot, I couldn't see conclusive evidence to move it back. I think we pretty much knew (so did the officials), but without a view looking straight down the line (that was the major failure), I would probably have called it inconclusive.

based on past booth reviews, there was enough inconclusivity to be conclusive. there, take that...
 

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I think the terrible call was the spot. After a bad spot, I couldn't see conclusive evidence to move it back. I think we pretty much knew (so did the officials), but without a view looking straight down the line (that was the major failure), I would probably have called it inconclusive.

Okay, Stanfod needed to just past the 40 on that play. A fe of the replays were from an overhead angle and it was clear that neither his body nor the ball crossed the 40 yard line. Even from an overhead angle that's not directly above a player you can spot when they cross the paint denoting the yard line. He didn't and that was very conclusive.

As I already said, that was a combination of terrible on-field officiating and replay officiating. We can go ahead and disagree on this one. And keep in mind that I, as an official, do not gripe about officiating unless I see something blatantly awful.
 

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Are you being serious right now? Please leave, because you are doing a very poor job of disguising the fact that you are a fan of some other team on here calling yourself one of us.

Are you going to tell me refs didn't screw up? Yes or no. No "we this, we that" crap.

100% agree.
 

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If we go into a conference, we get our own officials. The booth reviewers at Michigan State were from the Big East. They screwed up. The PAC-10 officials at Stanford made some ****ty calls. This goes with the territory of being independent. Big 10 officials have had many blown calls against ND as well. I will be interested to see what happens at the Navy game.

Officials are not the reason we are 1-3. They don't help, but it's a mental game for the Irish. Someone needs to light a fire under our team's ***. Someone needs to instill the us vs. the world mentality. This is why we hired Kelly. Let's see what happens. I vote we get Holtz back for a locker room speech or something.
 

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That's such a lucky play. 9 times out of 10 your offsides. Somebody called it brilliant earlier in the thread but it's just luck and makes the LBer look like a genius.
First of all no matter if the guy was offsides or not AA should have leveled him. In the past (great ND teams) the back would have popped the guy. AA is tough but the toughness I'm talking about just wouldnt allow that. They send a message YOU send a message. The culture of the football team needs to change. Its a dirty nasty game played by dirty nasty young men. You can act the right way off the field but on it to win you better play on the edge. Right now Notre Dame does not do that. Point- before the Miami game in '88 Tony Rice was actually trading punches with a Miami thug-he's the QB. Imagine what the enforcers were doing. That is precisely what is needed and until they get those guys who wont allow intimidation what you see is what you are going to get. I love the fact that Notre Dame has good people and the right kind of guys but the bad boy element is not there and you need bad boys on the field to win. Lou/Ara's guys were Notre Dame men off the field but on it they were %$#@^$.
 
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I called it brilliant and it was

I called it brilliant and it was

It was as a calculated risk taken by a very smart and well-prepared football player. He probably had a very good idea when the snap was going to be from watching film. Luck is, more often than not, the result of good preparation.

That's such a lucky play. 9 times out of 10 your offsides. Somebody called it brilliant earlier in the thread but it's just luck and makes the LBer look like a genius.
 

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"Dude" the officials can completely change the game in football, this was evident in last years michigan loss. ND lost yesterday to a good team but the BS review of the stanford no catch in the endzone shows the BS in PAC 10 officials, they did the same stuff 3 years ago against stanford. This is a legitimate concern each week.

ND didn't lose the Michigan game last year because of the refs, they lost it because they didn't execute in the clutch. ND had both the lead and the ball with three minutes left in the game and were averaging about seven yards per snap. Can't ask much more than that. They just didn't execute.

In the MSU game this year ND brought their own Big East officials, didn't make them a better officiating crew.
 
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