Jay Mariotti rips Weis

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Screw Mariotti, I wish I could write a story everyday after I see him on Around the Horn saying what a blow hard idiot he is and that he should be fired.
 

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this guy makes his living on slam articles why waste your time
 

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He really sold me on Gruden and I havent been sold on Gruden. He would be a recruiting beast and actually can coach as well.
 

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well, the article explained his connection to ND that i didn't know previously.
 
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Mariotti hates Notre Dame. He slams them any chance he can. He's a big part of the reason why I don't watch his show on ESPN.
 

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This article lost all credibility with me as did Northwestern's Pat Fitzgerald based on this quote: "Even though we're similar academically, we're in a little different boat as Stanford and Notre Dame. We've been consistently winning since 1995. They're still saying they can do it, but we're doing it."

Uhhhhh... has anyone seen Northwestern's records since '95?

10-2
9-3
5-7
3-9
3-8
8-4
4-7
3-9
6-7
6-6
7-5
4-8
6-6
9-4

Seriously? "Consistently winning"? Is this guy a total idiot? No way in hell would I want him to be anywhere near the Notre Dame head football coaching position if he thinks those records are considered "consistently winning".

"They still say they can do it, but we're doing it." Really? REALLY? That's 83 wins in 14 years, an average of 5.9 wins a year. By comparison, ND in that same time frame has 102 wins, an average of 7.2 wins a year. 7.2 wins a year isn't great, by any measure. But for this idiot to say "They say they can do it, but we're doing it.".... seriously? I'm speechless.

I might have to take a break from ND football if this asshat is considered for the position.
 

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But, I hate to say it....he's right. I've never been a Charlie hater, I don't think names really matter when it comes to being the head coach at ND, but you have to get someone in there that really knows how to scheme for a game. Gruden is a fiery, passionate, and smart coach...the reason he was ousted in the NFL is because he takes a "I'm the boss, now you drop and give me 20" attitude. Professional football players are sitting on 20 million dollar contracts, so they will tell him to shove it. Young impressionable men playing for ND would/will listen to him, so I say play this year out, hope for the best, and kindly ask Charlie to leave and welcome Mr. Gruden in.
 

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I hate Mariotti and his articles I was so glad when he was no longer with the sun-times, besides that I do like the idea of Gruden at ND I think that he has a chance to be a Pete Carroll type of coach in college. With that being said though im not too sure what the chances of him coming are because he will most likely get an offer from an NFL team this upcoming season.
 

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I agree with patman, but, and I hate to say this....Mariotti made a good point, why would he want to jump into franchises in such disarray? St. Louis? Buffalo? Cleveland? thanks but no thanks. I feel that Gruden could recruit just as well as Charlie, and he has the potential to be a great college coach.....at the risk of sounding like a huge homer, there are only a few coaching positions in ALL of sports that really have this type of fame- Notre Dame football, Dallas Cowboys Head Coach, New York Yankees Skipper, LA Lakers Coach.....
 

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I don't know about you guys, but coaching at ND would be a better job than an NFL job.

In the NFL, you get guys who won't listen and think they should get the ball every play.

In college, you can coach kids. It just seems like less of a headache.

I would rather coach in college than the NFL, plus, at ND, you make just as much money.
 

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Professional football players are sitting on 20 million dollar contracts, so they will tell him to shove it. Young impressionable men playing for ND would/will listen to him,

my point precisely
 

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I don't want Gruden. Never proven that he can coach in NCAA. We're dealing with that right now.
 

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Weis was a coordinator with a great team.....Gruden was a good coach with a shitty roster, I understand the similarities, but ya never know.
 

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Hey Gruden won his ring with someone else's guys. We got guys. We need to just not jump off the 3 year contract thing too quickly. As for should Charlie stay or go - I see both sides - so all I can say is it's not my decision. And since ND reconfigured the Joyce and I don't sit directly behind the football coach at all the home basketball games anymore - not such a big deal - just win baby.
Oh, as for Jay - isn't this his 3rd "I hate Weis" article this year alone.
 
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Yeah, Gruden did have a lot of talent with that Tampa team he had bestowed upon him by Mr. Dungy.......
 

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But, I hate to say it....he's right. I've never been a Charlie hater, I don't think names really matter when it comes to being the head coach at ND, but you have to get someone in there that really knows how to scheme for a game. Gruden is a fiery, passionate, and smart coach...the reason he was ousted in the NFL is because he takes a "I'm the boss, now you drop and give me 20" attitude. Professional football players are sitting on 20 million dollar contracts, so they will tell him to shove it. Young impressionable men playing for ND would/will listen to him, so I say play this year out, hope for the best, and kindly ask Charlie to leave and welcome Mr. Gruden in.

Yea....I can see all the priest and Gruden hanging out drinking PBR......It's not gonna happen...Gruden would not be a fit for UND....Too much BS for Gruden....
 

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lol...that is a funny thought. I can see your point though, Gruden would have a hard time dealing with all of the scrutiny that comes with the ND coaching job. I do feel however, that ND NEEDS a coach of his style...teaching text book tackles, blocking, getting back to basics and getting things right.
 

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This article lost all credibility with me as did Northwestern's Pat Fitzgerald based on this quote: "Even though we're similar academically, we're in a little different boat as Stanford and Notre Dame. We've been consistently winning since 1995. They're still saying they can do it, but we're doing it."

Uhhhhh... has anyone seen Northwestern's records since '95?

10-2
9-3
5-7
3-9
3-8
8-4
4-7
3-9
6-7
6-6
7-5
4-8
6-6
9-4

Seriously? "Consistently winning"? Is this guy a total idiot? No way in hell would I want him to be anywhere near the Notre Dame head football coaching position if he thinks those records are considered "consistently winning".

"They still say they can do it, but we're doing it." Really? REALLY? That's 83 wins in 14 years, an average of 5.9 wins a year. By comparison, ND in that same time frame has 102 wins, an average of 7.2 wins a year. 7.2 wins a year isn't great, by any measure. But for this idiot to say "They say they can do it, but we're doing it.".... seriously? I'm speechless.

I might have to take a break from ND football if this asshat is considered for the position.

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Jon Gurden is a mediocre coach at best and some people on here need to quit riding his nuts. He's proven he could win a Superbowl with a Tony Dungy builded defense, but after all those players left it was all down hill. I rather have Tommy Tuberville over Gurden anyday..
 

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Screw Mariotti, I wish I could write a story everyday after I see him on Around the Horn saying what a blow hard idiot he is and that he should be fired.

He has less "wins" on Around the Horn than Woody Paige. Need I say more?
 

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I laugh at posters who think Weis is better than Gruden...or Gruden cant get it done. if a retard like Kiffin can change Tennessee...than you better bet your ass that Gruden will have Notre Dame back in the mix.
 

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I laugh at posters who think Weis is better than Gruden...or Gruden cant get it done. if a retard like Kiffin can change Tennessee...than you better bet your ass that Gruden will have Notre Dame back in the mix.

I'm glad you "THINK" that. What we think or want has nothing to do with what could or would happen. You also have no evidence that Gruden is better than Weis, statistically.
 

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I'm glad you "THINK" that. What we think or want has nothing to do with what could or would happen. You also have no evidence that Gruden is better than Weis, statistically.

I know Gruden wouldnt go 3-16 against teams with winning records or get beat by Navy 2 out of the last 3 times. You can dream of lollipops and rainbows...but when you wake up, the reality is still there. Weis sucks. Gruden will rule.
 

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I know Gruden wouldnt go 3-16 against teams with winning records or get beat by Navy 2 out of the last 3 times. You can dream of lollipops and rainbows...but when you wake up, the reality is still there. Weis sucks. Gruden will rule.

When you wake up you'll still realize you have no evidence to this matter and what your saying is still just a thought not a fact.
 
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