Rudolph IN BOUNDS....

[IrishAddiction]

Was he? Seriously has been bugging me every since that play. Kind of pissing me off actually. They only replayed it like once or twice. He looked like he palmed the ball in his left hand and then cradled it in..... while he was cradling it in he was out of bounds. But isnt palming the ball considered control? If so, he looked like he palmed it while in bounds before his knee even hit. Idk it has just been buggin the hell out of me since the game ended.

I dont have tivo or anything, so i didnt get a chance to replay it. Its bugging the hell out of me. Anyone here got a video replay of it? I do believe if they would have called it a TD on the field, the play would have stood. Opinions?

 

[Junkhead]

It didn't seem like they even looked at it again. It was a hell of a catch, could've been called either way, but I thought they'd at least review it.

 

[kmoose]

I think, in that case, he is not considered to be in possession of the ball, until he brings it in to his body. It was a really tough call, but I think they got it right.

 

[Steve]

When he palmed the ball, he was in bounds, but I'm pretty sure they didn't consider that as possessing the ball. When he finally gained possession, his knee was out.

 

[neags23]

Looked to me like his knee was out. I rewinded and looked several times. Seemed like a good call to me (unfortunately).

 

[IrishAddiction]

I have seen recievers just palm the ball before and hand it to the refs. (USC recievers oddly enough, not against us, thinking MIke Williams actually). Considered possession. I think if you palm the ball, it is possession is it not? Not saying this lost us the game or anything, but it certainly does bug me. Im actually not certain he didnt bobble the ball at all. They only reviewed it for like 10 seconds. Hell they reviewed the first fumble were he was obviously down alot longer than that. If he didnt bobble it though, i think it truly was a touchdown.

If they would have called it a touch, do you think it would have actually been overturned?

 

[WabashFalcon]

His knee was in... his upper thigh was out. Good call.

 

[neags23]

I have seen recievers just palm the ball before and hand it to the refs. (USC recievers oddly enough, not against us, thinking MIke Williams actually). Considered possession. I think if you palm the ball, it is possession is it not? Not saying this lost us the game or anything, but it certainly does bug me. Im actually not certain he didnt bobble the ball at all. They only reviewed it for like 10 seconds. Hell they reviewed the first fumble were he was obviously down alot longer than that. If he didnt bobble it though, i think it truly was a touchdown.

If they would have called it a touch, do you think it would have actually been overturned?

Ugh, you just made me rewind to watch this again to be sure. How many times can my heart break in one day?

I'm not sure that he actually palmed it. It seemed to be a bit loose in his hand as he was bringing it in.

Whether a palm in that situation is considered a catch or not, I don't know.

If it would've been called a catch to start with, I think they would have found a way to overturn it.

 

[phork]

Good call imo.

 

[NDMontana]

It looked to me like he had the ball more on his wrist when his knee/thigh went down out of bounds. It was the right call.

 

[Riddickulous]

He was out.

He did catch the ball, but his knee was out of bounds.

 

[IrishAddiction]

Alright fellas, i will take all your words for it. Probably a good call. Like i said, i dont have tivo or anything and they only replayed it like once or twice, not giving me much time to look at it. When i did see it it looked like he may have palmed it, but couldnt tell if he bobbled it pulling it into his chest. had we been on the left hash, touchdown irish.

Would have liked to see a run with AA on the first play on the 3 with like 20 seconds left, bc he was running with purpose all day today. Cant argue the calls though, they gave us a chance at least. Hell of a game, just wished we could have pulled it out.

 

[NDisme]

His knee was out, foot was in so just ask yourself this questiom, If you catch a ball with both feet on the ground, with one foot out and one in, would it be incomplete or complete? answer is incomplete.

 

[Irish52]

The difference in the game was the time given to each qtrbk to find open receivers. Jimmy had seconds, Brantley had a day and a half. Our emphasis in recruitling should be on mammoth offensive and defensive linemen...especially tackles. Sure hope we get several good recruits out of the game.

 

[wakeuptheechoes]

I must admit on the original play I thought he was in, Maybe because I wanted him to have possesion and be in. I thought it was a good call after reviewing it on replay.

 

[jason_h537]

I couldnt see the catch live but i saw people on the sideline throw up thier hands so i thought TD. on the review, if it was called a TD on the field i think it stands but the defense was smart to push him out

 

[tankjeep]

yeah that was good call. for the most part the refs did a very good job. my only beef is when robbie parrish's helmet was knocked off his noggin when the play wasn't even close to him. the ref was standing right there. also, AA was running the ball his forward progress was stopped and the tacklers held his arse up.....a player came in with a late hit. no call.

not that the missed calls effected the outcome, but seriously, they need to make that call. usc players are so effin dirty. can't stand the bums

 

[jason_h537]

I really believe that is taught. The USC defense uses it to try and intimidate the opposition.

 

[tankjeep]

I really believe that is taught. The USC defense uses it to try and intimidate the opposition.

if it is....then's the one more reason to seriously dislike the poodle. either way, the referees need to make that call....totally uncalled for. the ref was standing right there with robbie's locks dancing in the wind.

 

[Irish52]

Rudolph..in or out

Rudolph..in or out

His knee was in... his upper thigh was out. Good call.

"his upper thigh was out. Good call." Are you shitting me? Never in 60 years of watching football, have I ever heard a play determined by whether or not his upper thigh was out! In my opinion, it was a good catch...both feet were in bounds and he had control of the ball when he landed. I think the officials were just too damned scared to make a borderline, but perfectly good call at that stage of the game. Clausen was magnificent and should be the top vote getter for the Heisman....but, even after Tebows terrible performance against Arkansas, he is still ranked #1..go figure!!!

 

[tankjeep]

"his upper thigh was out. Good call." Are you shitting me? Never in 60 years of watching football, have I ever heard a play determined by whether or not his upper thigh was out! In my opinion, it was a good catch...both feet were in bounds and he had control of the ball when he landed. I think the officials were just too damned scared to make a borderline, but perfectly good call at that stage of the game. Clausen was magnificent and should be the top vote getter for the Heisman....but, even after Tebows terrible performance against Arkansas, he is still ranked #1..go figure!!!

rudolph's knee was right on the chalkline. when your knee is down, it doesn't matter where your feet are.

 

[NDMontana]

"his upper thigh was out. Good call." Are you shitting me? Never in 60 years of watching football, have I ever heard a play determined by whether or not his upper thigh was out! In my opinion, it was a good catch...both feet were in bounds and he had control of the ball when he landed. I think the officials were just too damned scared to make a borderline, but perfectly good call at that stage of the game. Clausen was magnificent and should be the top vote getter for the Heisman....but, even after Tebows terrible performance against Arkansas, he is still ranked #1..go figure!!!

He did not have control of the ball until his entire body, sans his legs from the knee down, was out of bounds. When his first body part touched out of bounds (since you don't like the specificity of the word thigh) the ball was on his wrist/forearm but he had neither tucked the ball nor did he have hand control.