Teams with stamina, hanging in with the big boys...

Easton Pa ND Fan · Jul 29, 2009

Some teams score nearly as well per game against winning
teams as they do against their whole schedule. Is this
a sign of stamina or reserve power? The top 25 with the
least drop, ND opponents and teams of interest and
the bottom 25 with the greatest drop follow...Tom

<pre>Name. vsWIN vsSCH Drop. Name. vsWIN vsSCH Drop'd NoCar 30.44 27.69 +2.75 UCLA. 14.00 17.67 -03.67 Vanbl 21.25 19.15 +2.10 Navy. 23.43 27.15 -03.72 Vir . 17.40 16.08 +1.32 Ok S 36.43 40.77 -04.34 Ga . 32.67 31.46 +1.21 MichS 20.67 25.08 -04.41 Vir T 22.70 22.07 +0.63 FL S 28.22 33.38 -05.16 Md . 22.13 21.77 +0.36 Or . 36.67 41.92 -05.25 UNLV. 25.50 25.58 -0.08 Pa S 33.67 38.92 -05.25 Toldo 22.00 22.42 -0.42 Conn. 19.43 24.92 -05.49 Marsh 19.88 20.50 -0.62 ----- ----- ----- ------ WashS 11.83 12.69 -0.86 Or S 23.29 30.54 -07.25 Mich. 19.38 20.25 -0.87 MiaFL 19.71 27.08 -07.37 A F . 25.86 26.77 -0.91 Nev . 30.17 37.62 -07.45 Houst 39.57 40.62 -1.05 USC . 30.00 37.54 -07.54 PittS 26.00 27.08 -1.08 Ariz. 29.00 36.62 -07.62 Col . 19.00 20.17 -1.17 S J S 11.00 18.67 -07.67 No CS 22.18 23.46 -1.28 Kan S 27.20 34.92 -07.72 Ga T 23.00 24.38 -1.38 Baylr 20.13 28.00 -07.87 Boise 36.17 37.62 -1.45 WestK 09.50 17.50 -08.00 NewMS 20.60 22.17 -1.57 RiceU 33.00 41.31 -08.31 Tex . 40.63 42.38 -1.75 TroyS 24.40 32.77 -08.37 Wash. 11.50 13.25 -1.75 Purde 16.00 24.67 -08.67 Minn. 21.33 23.23 -1.90 IowaS 16.40 25.33 -08.93 MiaOh 16.50 18.42 -1.92 Notre 15.67 24.69 -09.02 FL . 41.70 43.64 -1.94 Louvl 15.57 24.67 -09.10 Iowa. 28.29 30.31 -2.02 New M 11.71 21.08 -09.37 ----- ----- ----- ----- Templ 14.00 23.42 -09.42 Oh S 25.25 27.62 -2.37 Wisc. 17.86 27.46 -09.60 TexAM 22.60 25.00 -2.40 So FL 18.00 27.62 -09.62 LSU . 27.86 30.92 -3.06 ArizS 13.17 22.83 -09.66 TexT. 40.71 43.77 -3.06 KentS 14.67 25.67 -11.00 Stnfd 23.14 26.25 -3.11 Ark S 15.25 27.00 -11.75 OK . 47.89 51.14 -3.25 TCU . 21.00 33.62 -12.62 Ut . 33.67 36.92 -3.25 FL A 10.80 25.08 -14.28 BostC 21.10 24.71 -3.61 LaLaf 17.67 33.08 -15.41 </pre>

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NeuteredDoomer · Jul 31, 2009

Where is ND?

NDinNM · Jul 31, 2009

NeuteredDoomer said:
Where is ND?

Its on the right side under IowaS and above Louvl

NDinNM · Jul 31, 2009

Thats embarrasing that we are in the bottom 25 though, we need to fix that this year to win against the better teams.

GO IRISH!!! · Jul 31, 2009

NeuteredDoomer said:
Where is ND?

Dang Neutered! I saw you posted in this thread and I thought it would be some clever post about your stamina. Actually, your buddy Thumper probably has better stamina. You know, "...like a rabbit."

NeuteredDoomer · Jul 31, 2009

NDinNM said:
Its on the right side under IowaS and above Louvl

Thanks. I missed it. Tom has me thinking statistically now. Fucker.

GoIrish!!!, I have no stamina. You say "Quintastic" and I have an instant mess on the floor next to stale Cracker Jacks (surprise inside).

I have a new idea for popcorn.

WabashFalcon · Jul 31, 2009

NeuteredDoomer said:
Thanks. I missed it. Tom has me thinking statistically now. Fucker.

GoIrish!!!, I have no stamina. You say "Quintastic" and I have an instant mess on the floor next to stale Cracker Jacks (surprise inside).

I have a new idea for popcorn.

Just like the Hawaii Bowl.

NeuteredDoomer · Jul 31, 2009

Ooh. Bastage.

Easton Pa ND Fan · Aug 1, 2009

Edited for clarity...

Edited for clarity...

NeuteredDoomer said:
Thanks. I missed it. Tom has me thinking statistically now. Fucker.

GoIrish!!!, I have no stamina. You say "Quintastic" and I have an instant mess on the floor next to stale Cracker Jacks (surprise inside).

I have a new idea for popcorn.

Keep thinking rating and not ranking! In a game between two
winning teams where the betting line is very close, this may
be of use...Tom

:jawdrop:

sherry · Aug 1, 2009

Easton Pa ND Fan said:
Some teams score nearly as well per game against winning
teams as they do against their whole schedule. Is this
a sign of stamina or reserve power? The top 25 with the
least drop, ND opponents and teams of interest and
the bottom 25 with the greatest drop follow...Tom

<pre>Name. vsWIN vsSCH Drop. Name. vsWIN vsSCH Drop'd NoCar 30.44 27.69 +2.75 UCLA. 14.00 17.67 -03.67 Vanbl 21.25 19.15 +2.10 Navy. 23.43 27.15 -03.72 Vir . 17.40 16.08 +1.32 Ok S 36.43 40.77 -04.34 Ga . 32.67 31.46 +1.21 MichS 20.67 25.08 -04.41 Vir T 22.70 22.07 +0.63 FL S 28.22 33.38 -05.16 Md . 22.13 21.77 +0.36 Or . 36.67 41.92 -05.25 UNLV. 25.50 25.58 -0.08 Pa S 33.67 38.92 -05.25 Toldo 22.00 22.42 -0.42 Conn. 19.43 24.92 -05.49 Marsh 19.88 20.50 -0.62 ----- ----- ----- ------ WashS 11.83 12.69 -0.86 Or S 23.29 30.54 -07.25 Mich. 19.38 20.25 -0.87 MiaFL 19.71 27.08 -07.37 A F . 25.86 26.77 -0.91 Nev . 30.17 37.62 -07.45 Houst 39.57 40.62 -1.05 USC . 30.00 37.54 -07.54 PittS 26.00 27.08 -1.08 Ariz. 29.00 36.62 -07.62 Col . 19.00 20.17 -1.17 S J S 11.00 18.67 -07.67 No CS 22.18 23.46 -1.28 Kan S 27.20 34.92 -07.72 Ga T 23.00 24.38 -1.38 Baylr 20.13 28.00 -07.87 Boise 36.17 37.62 -1.45 WestK 09.50 17.50 -08.00 NewMS 20.60 22.17 -1.57 RiceU 33.00 41.31 -08.31 Tex . 40.63 42.38 -1.75 TroyS 24.40 32.77 -08.37 Wash. 11.50 13.25 -1.75 Purde 16.00 24.67 -08.67 Minn. 21.33 23.23 -1.90 IowaS 16.40 25.33 -08.93 MiaOh 16.50 18.42 -1.92 Notre 15.67 24.69 -09.02 FL . 41.70 43.64 -1.94 Louvl 15.57 24.67 -09.10 Iowa. 28.29 30.31 -2.02 New M 11.71 21.08 -09.37 ----- ----- ----- ----- Templ 14.00 23.42 -09.42 Oh S 25.25 27.62 -2.37 Wisc. 17.86 27.46 -09.60 TexAM 22.60 25.00 -2.40 So FL 18.00 27.62 -09.62 LSU . 27.86 30.92 -3.06 ArizS 13.17 22.83 -09.66 TexT. 40.71 43.77 -3.06 KentS 14.67 25.67 -11.00 Stnfd 23.14 26.25 -3.11 Ark S 15.25 27.00 -11.75 OK . 47.89 51.14 -3.25 TCU . 21.00 33.62 -12.62 Ut . 33.67 36.92 -3.25 FL A 10.80 25.08 -14.28 BostC 21.10 24.71 -3.61 LaLaf 17.67 33.08 -15.41 </pre>

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I think that it is a sign of stamina not the reserve

Easton Pa ND Fan · Aug 1, 2009

Agree...

Agree...

sherry said:
I think that it is a sign of stamina not the reserve

sherry,

I think you are right, reserves are fresh but not
as talented, their contribution would not add to
points/game. It is the stamina of the starters.
...Tom

sherry is a ND fan !!

TDHeysus · Aug 1, 2009

sherry said:
I think that it is a sign of stamina not the reserve

I think it is a combination of talent, and mental stamina. First you need to the talent to win, second you need the mental toughness(call it mental stamina) to carry out the game plan, against good teams, and bad teams.

Look at ND and USC in the bottom 25.

in the past, with ND, I believe it has been not having the talent. ND has had to overachieve on the field, just to get close to USC, and we still lose. I also see small room for improvement on the mental toughness side for ND too.

Take USC, all the talent on the planet and still lose to teams like standford, and oregon state. Arrogance has replaced mental toughness and therefore they are not 'ready to play' against some teams.

I dont think its 1 condition(stamina OR reserves) I think it is (at least) 2 conditions, Talent and Mental Toughness.

Easton Pa ND Fan · Aug 2, 2009

Thoughtful, the USC situation...

Thoughtful, the USC situation...

TDHeysus said:
I think it is a combination of talent, and mental stamina. First you need to the talent to win, second you need the mental toughness(call it mental stamina) to carry out the game plan, against good teams, and bad teams.

Look at ND and USC in the bottom 25.

in the past, with ND, I believe it has been not having the talent. ND has had to overachieve on the field, just to get close to USC, and we still lose. I also see small room for improvement on the mental toughness side for ND too.

Take USC, all the talent on the planet and still lose to teams like standford, and oregon state. Arrogance has replaced mental toughness and therefore they are not 'ready to play' against some teams.

I dont think its 1 condition(stamina OR reserves) I think it is (at least) 2 conditions, Talent and Mental Toughness.

is certainly true. Did you notice that not only did USC
lose a boatload of talent to the NFL, the Trojan recruit-
ing is nowhere near previous years...Tom

TDHeysus is a ND fan !!

WabashFalcon · Aug 2, 2009

I consider stamnia being able to last over six minutes...

Teams with stamina, hanging in with the big boys...

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