'10 NC LB Kendall Moore (Notre Dame Signee)

[NDinL.A.]

This is great news to come home to (Moore being Irish that is!) Very nice pickup!!! 2 scouts that I've read like him a lot and have him as a solid 4 star...

 

[tannerpw3]

I like Moore as a player, but after reading his comments on taking more official visits (if Weis wants him to, he says - altho I can't imagine why he would think a coach would want that), I don't think he's a solid verbal.

 

[jason_h537]

Welcome aboard Kendall. Good pick up at a position that is not of need. I love that we can be picky with LB's now.

 

[NDinL.A.]

First post updated...

 

[NDinL.A.]

I like Moore as a player, but after reading his comments on taking more official visits (if Weis wants him to, he says - altho I can't imagine why he would think a coach would want that), I don't think he's a solid verbal.

I completely agree. This is what he said to Rivals (free article):

Previously, Moore mentioned that even after making his verbal commitment he might be interested in taking several official visits during the fall season. That's still his plan, so long as Irish head coach Charlie Weis is on board.

"Yes sir, definitely," Moore said. "I felt like this is the start of my decision. I'm still going to wait throughout the whole season and see what goes on. I haven't talked to coach Weis about it, but I think that's pretty much accurate."

Moore said he's interested in checking out several schools.

"If possible I'd like to visit Florida State and Oregon, South Carolina and maybe Maryland, but that's just if coach Weis wants me to," he said.

****I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be the start of his decision, it should be the end of his decision, and the beginning of his ND life. Now, it sounds like if we win, he's all Irish. And if we lose, he'll start looking around. But personally I'd rather him be confident in his decision and the fact that we're going to win, and be a solid commit. I mean, I guess I'm glad that he's honest, but I'd rather him not commit and just take all 5 visits. Remember, when Tai'lor Jones said he's committed to Stanford but will still take some visits, we all laughed and said that in actuality he wasn't committed. Many ND people think if we win this year he'll flip. And now, albeit to a lesser degree, it seems like we have the same situation with Moore...

 

[tannerpw3]

The thing with it, though, is 'wants me to' translates to 'lets me.' So what if Weis says no? I'm actually curious how Weis handles this one. The kid seems likely to be ours if we play all right. We're certainly in a better position than any of the schools he didn't verbal to today. But Weis can't be happy with a verbal that isn't really a verbal. I wonder if he lets the kid remain 'commited' and take those visits.

 

[BGIF]

Yeah... any chance JPham or another Mod could help me out over this mixup?

It was in the works long before your post.

Patience little grasshopper and friends.

 

[WabashFalcon]

Maybe... the visits coexist with the record the team has at the time? If we start off on a bad foot, maybe he then gets to take his OVs?

 

[IrishInFl]

I like that I found out about this commit when Gene told me at the bar. BTW, warchant.com cowgirl contest kicked ass.

 

[Junkhead]

It sounds like he almost wants to reserve a spot here, but leave his options open. I can't see Charlie giving that luxury, unless it's for a Manti Teo type recruit.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I don't like the sound of it coming from his interview. What is this, Stanford?

 

[CroatianSensation]

I don't consider this a "commit". More a soft verbal and we all know how those end up...

 

[tannerpw3]

I too consider it a soft verbal, but I bet if you check (especially if you check those who after soft verballing, only visited other schools that had offered them prior to their soft verbal - ie, didn't visit a latecomer like Florida or USC), most soft verbals stay where they verbal to initially. So I don't consider it quite a commit, but pessimism seems uncalled for. I think we have every reason to believe we're more likely to get his LOI than the other schools on his list.

As of today, anyway.

 

[Junkhead]

I too consider it a soft verbal, but I bet if you check (especially if you check those who after soft verballing, only visited other schools that had offered them prior to their soft verbal - ie, didn't visit a latecomer like Florida or USC), most soft verbals stay where they verbal to initially. So I don't consider it quite a commit, but pessimism seems uncalled for. I think we have every reason to believe we're more likely to get his LOI than the other schools on his list.

As of today, anyway.

I understand what you are saying, but when he "commits" and wants to look, what kind of a commitment is that?

 

[WabashFalcon]

I understand what you are saying, but when he "commits" and wants to look, what kind of a commitment is that?

The "I'm out if you suck and I think you're gonna get fired" approach. Which I pray never occurs.

 

[jason_h537]

Moore is a kid trying to make a life decision. This is not about the school or the fans, this is a decision based on what Moore thinks is best for him. The potential of a new coaching staff affects these type of decisions. Right now Moore has commited to Notre Dame. If the season goes bad and all this kids start looking around, then worry. Until then i am happy to have Kendall Moore aboard.

These kids are not lifelong Notre Dame fans like us.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

It sounds like he almost wants to reserve a spot here, but leave his options open. I can't see Charlie giving that luxury, unless it's for a Manti Teo type recruit.

Also remember that Weis has the "if you're looking, we're looking" policy, I'm sure that this kid knows that. He could get bumped just as quick as we can.

 

[tannerpw3]

Moore is a kid trying to make a life decision. This is not about the school or the fans, this is a decision based on what Moore thinks is best for him. The potential of a new coaching staff affects these type of decisions. Right now Moore has commited to Notre Dame. If the season goes bad and all this kids start looking around, then worry. Until then i am happy to have Kendall Moore aboard.

These kids are not lifelong Notre Dame fans like us.

But that means he hasn't commited, or ought not to have commited yet, IMO. From the sound of it, we're his leader. No one's faulting the young man, but it's an important distinction. And I'm sure the coaching staff is making it as well.

 

[tannerpw3]

I understand what you are saying, but when he "commits" and wants to look, what kind of a commitment is that?

Not much of one, but - well, Moore didn't have to commit to anywhere yesterday. But he chose to commit to ND. It's a lot different than a soft verbal like Chris Martin seemed to be for a couple days, where the guy seems rock solid for you and then out of nowhere says he wants to take visits. When that happens, the guy is gone (tho Martin's case was more of a misunderstanding). But Moore is being upfront. He chose yesterday and chose us. But I do think it's a soft verbal. For all we know, though, the staff will talk him out of taking visits.

 

[Junkhead]

Not much of one, but - well, Moore didn't have to commit to anywhere yesterday. But he chose to commit to ND. It's a lot different than a soft verbal like Chris Martin seemed to be for a couple days, where the guy seems rock solid for you and then out of nowhere says he wants to take visits. When that happens, the guy is gone (tho Martin's case was more of a misunderstanding). But Moore is being upfront. He chose yesterday and chose us. But I do think it's a soft verbal. For all we know, though, the staff will talk him out of taking visits.

Makes sense, but why commit at all, if you aren't sure?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I'd rather have 5 guys like him hold out to commit later and not take any visits than commit in July, take 4 other visits, and be left shrugging your shoulders having no clue where the kid is headed.

Dive right in...or get the hell out

 

[tannerpw3]

Makes sense, but why commit at all, if you aren't sure?

ND is the most prestigious program offering him to this point. It's definitely the most prestigious of the ones he says are topping his list. Maybe he just wants to make sure he'd have a spot with us. A 4-star LB is more likely to get squeezed out of an ND recruiting class than an NC State one.

I think we should be more welcoming. A lot of these posts make it seem like he chose another school yesterday. Guy chose ND.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Guys like Chris Martin and Tommy Rees chose ND.

Moore chose ND...for now

 

[NDinL.A.]

A couple points here:

1. I don't blame anyone for saying he's a soft commit. He says he's going to ask CW if he can take some OV's. That means you're not solid, until you come out and say you're not taking OV's (and if ND starts to lose, no one will blame him for 'hmmmmming' on some schools, as Chris Martin would say. He's committing not only to ND but to CW and the staff).

2. Lo Wood told ISD that he has been recruiting other athletes to come to ND, including Shembo, Boyd and Riggs. Who else did he say is helping him recruit? Moore and Chris Martin. Boyd has become friends with both of them. Good sign for ND w/ Moore actively recruiting others.

3. Tom Lemming evaluated Kendall Moore. Now, some people love Lemming and think he's the best talent evaluator around (he's very old-school), and others think he sucks. Those people will also tell you he's a noted ND apologist. Having said that, he rated Moore as 'almost a 5 star'. He really thinks he's going to be very good for this Irish. In the midst of Moore's controversial statements, I think we've forgotten that the kid's a very good player.

Just saying...

 

[WabashFalcon]

A couple points here:

1. I don't blame anyone for saying he's a soft commit. He says he's going to ask CW if he can take some OV's. That means you're not solid, until you come out and say you're not taking OV's (and if ND starts to lose, no one will blame him for 'hmmmmming' on some schools, as Chris Martin would say. He's committing not only to ND but to CW and the staff).

2. Lo Wood told ISD that he has been recruiting other athletes to come to ND, including Shembo, Boyd and Riggs. Who else did he say is helping him recruit? Moore and Chris Martin. Boyd has become friends with both of them. Good sign for ND w/ Moore actively recruiting others.

3. Tom Lemming evaluated Kendall Moore. Now, some people love Lemming and think he's the best talent evaluator around (he's very old-school), and others think he sucks. Those people will also tell you he's a noted ND apologist. Having said that, he rated Moore as 'almost a 5 star'. He really thinks he's going to be very good for this Irish. In the midst of Moore's controversial statements, I think we've forgotten that the kid's a very good player.
Just saying...

Awesome. Just... awesome. What would he need to do to become a 5 star in his opinion? In your opinion ND? You always seem to be a great eye for talent brother.

 

[wpeifer]

What kind of player are the Irish getting here in Moore? Do you think he would fit better on the inside or the outside? In other words, what skill set does he possess?

 

[WabashFalcon]

Everything I've read has listed Kendall as a Mike. Dunno how he'll fit on the outside... but would love to see T'eo and Moore cracking heads in a 3-4 scheme.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Awesome. Just... awesome. What would he need to do to become a 5 star in his opinion? In your opinion ND? You always seem to be a great eye for talent brother.

You got me mixed up with someone else.

From what scouts say, he's very good. He has size and strength, but he can also run. He's athletic, which is of course what we need more of. You look at his film, and you see him chasing down runners. He made 230 (!!!) tackles the past 2 years, so he really gets after it. And he has the frame to add more weight. He prefers playing outside LB b/c that's what he's played his whole life, and Tenuta told him that's where he'll start off at ND. But most see him on the inside. And I read where one scout, who has him at a 4 star, says he's still raw. I think we got a good one here.

Here's what Lemming had to say, plus a wee bit more:

CBS College Sports Network analyst Tom Lemming ranks the 6-foot-3, 232-pound Moore as one of the best players in the state and rates him a four-star recruit. As a junior, Moore registered 120 tackles and six sacks, and also caught 30 passes with seven touchdowns according to Rivals.com.

"(He's) not quite a five-star guy, but very close," Lemming said. "He's also a good tight end, but a better outside linebacker. He's a big, big kid who can run. He drops into coverage perfectly. He's a good all-around athlete. He comes off the edge very well and could grow into a defensive end too. He's the kind of big guy that could be real versatile that way. It's a great catch, one of their best players in this class."

Lemming sent credit Brown's way for landing a player in a state that is recruited heavily not only by the in-state schools, but also by powers Florida, Tennessee and Georgia.

"Corwin Brown did a real good job on the kid," Lemming said. "You've got a lot of people hitting that area, so it's a real good catch for Notre Dame."

The credit doesn't stop with Brown, however. Defensive end Chris Martin, who announced in February that he will play for the Irish, also worked on Moore. The two became Facebook friends when they were sophomores, and Martin has been pushing Moore.

"He was like, 'You need to go on and commit,'" Moore said.

And Moore, already, has turned into a recruiter. Not long after announcing his choice, Moore texted Prince Shembo, a Charlotte defensive end who is being courted by ND, telling him that he needs to be next.

South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: Moore picks Irish

 

[Junkhead]

If he is helping recruit others to ND, you would think he'd be a solid verbal. It seems strange to be committed "right now". Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to have him in the class, but I get more excited by the guys who commit case closed.

 

[phork]

And Moore, already, has turned into a recruiter. Not long after announcing his choice, Moore texted Prince Shembo, a Charlotte defensive end who is being courted by ND, telling him that he needs to be next.

Good enough for me. Welcome aboard kid, you made the right call.