ND and the BCS: "The Notre Dame Rule"

[Legacy]

Notre Dame and the BCS: The “Notre Dame Rule” | Bleacher Report

 

[WabashFalcon]

Thanks for the read Legacy. Cleared up some things.

 

[BGIF]

Short article worth the read particularly if you have BCS Conference co-workers that rag about ND getting to a BCS Bowl with a mediocre record.

Notre Dame has never been selected for any BCS games when they have lost more than two games in a season. In ten of the eleven years, BCS conference teams have played a BCS bowl with three losses or more—more than any Notre Dame BCS team.

According to the article:

6 teams were selected with 3 losses
4 teams were selected with 4 losses

 

[nlroma1o]

Thanks for the article. Until now I had not realized what goes on with the distibution of revenue when ND is or is not playing in a BCS game. I had no idead that when ND is in a BCS game revenue is distributed to all 65 BCS teams beacuse ND doesn't have a conference. I'm gonna have to research this some more.

 

[BGIF]

Thanks for the article. Until now I had not realized what goes on with the distibution of revenue when ND is or is not playing in a BCS game. I had no idead that when ND is in a BCS game revenue is distributed to all 65 BCS teams beacuse ND doesn't have a conference. I'm gonna have to research this some more.

I believe in the original BCS arrangement ND did get the same share as a conference when selected and nothing when they weren't selected. The "full share" rankled many of the conference teams who get revenue sharing from their conference even if they don't make it to the Tidy Bowl. Vanderbilt and Miss St get big $$$$ from SEC revenue sharing for their historical beatdowns by the big dogs in the conference. Those big dogs were rankled because they have to share their paycheck from a BCS bowl with the rest of the conference and ND got to keep the whole thing. When complaining they never mentioned that ND got nothing when not selected.

Former ND AD White earned the eternal emnity of ND fans for renegotiating the arrangement so ND gets a smaller amount for being selected but a guaranteed amount if not selected. I don't recall the guaranteed amount but it's less than what the SEC bottom feeders get through SEC revenue distribution.

ND's BCS revenue unlike the other BCS participants doesn't go to the football program. It goes to the University for academic scholaships and such.

On an aside this revenue sharing is why Coaches should not be allowed to vote in a poll used to select BCS participants. Say you're the coach of a BCS Conference bottom feeder like WSU, or Miss St. "adjusting" your vote so a second team in you conference makes to a BCS game has substantial financial reward for your school. For that matter you don't have to be a bottom feeder as everybody in the conference shares in the $$$$ aka "redistribution of wealth".

 

[nlroma1o]

On an aside this revenue sharing is why Coaches should not be allowed to vote in a poll used to select BCS participants. Say you're the coach of a BCS Conference bottom feeder like WSU, or Miss St. "adjusting" your vote so a second team in you conference makes to a BCS game has substantial financial reward for your school. For that matter you don't have to be a bottom feeder as everybody in the conference shares in the $$$$ aka "redistribution of wealth".

Before the BCS was the "Championship Match-up" selected by a coaches vote? If it was, do you know if the revenue distribution was set up like it is now in the BCS?

I don't think it was.

 

[BGIF]

Before the BCS was the "Championship Match-up" selected by a coaches vote? If it was, do you know if the revenue distribution was set up like it is now in the BCS?

I don't think it was.

The BCS was set up ostensibly to create a match up only. Actually SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer who was also the first BCS Czar crafted the $millions to the big conferences (and ND who they couldn't afford to leave out but would have liked to).

In the early 90's Kramer as SEC Commissioner led the conference in two Divisions to reduce losses to the Conference Leaders which diminished their place in the polls. He ended decades long grudge matches between the big boys and "championed" watering down the schedule by adding the directional school on a widespread basis to the conference scheduling. He was aggressive in getting bowl ties-in guaranteeing slots not only for the Top Team, the SEC leader went to the Sugar Bowl for decades. He extended the tie-ins down to the 7th ranked team in the conference if they had a .500 record (including wins against Div AA schools). He also championed the Conference Championship Game with the $$$ and post season boost in the polls over teams that don't have Championship Games like USC and ND. He also champion revenue sharing first at the conference level. Then among BCS members when he became BCS Czar.


nlroma1o, prior to the BCS the bowls, the various polls voted for 1 after the post-season. Before the early 60's the polls only included regular season games as bowl were considered exhibition games created by local Chambers of Commerece (which they were). They usually included the winner of the local conference and some other team that would travel well (rent a lot of hotel rooms and spend $$$$ in the local economy.) After about '63 one poll did their final poll after the bowl games. ND hadn't gone to a bowl by choice since 1925 (Rose Bowl) as the ND Administration thought the bowl games a distraction to the academic cycle. When the polling system changed meaning ND could go undefeated in the regular season but not finish #1 in the final poll because they chose not to participate in bowls, Ara Parshegian persuaded the ND Administration to change their stance.

Hope that explanation helps.

 

[Legacy]

Here's a good article on BCS and its predecessors' chronology.
CFB - - FOX Sports on MSN

Here's a good one on the national championship teams, how they were chosen, the different polls, etc.
Historical Reality National College Football Champions