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JeremyND07

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I hope to God no recruits are reading any of these boards because the negativity is unreal lately!
 

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I wasn't being negative, I'm just stating that no one can say we are guarranteed anything. I hope we improve, but I can't bring myself to be overly optomistic until I'm proven wrong. Lets see what happens during the offseason before we get all crazy with expectations.
 

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There is some real delusional thinking going on here. 12 - 0 predictions? REALLY? 9 games? Really? Sorry, but I've seen regression for two straight seasons, and trendlines are pointing down still. Michigan will be better (shoot, if they don't hand us the ball in the first half, we'd have lost that game to McGuffie all by himself if you don't remember). Pitt and State are losses, and we'll probably lose an embarrassing one to one of the Washington teams ala Syracuse. Of course, BC and SC are auto losses - they just are always better prepared for a game. Who knows what will happen with Nevada, PU and Stanford - teams in flux with lots of decent players and potential - but with coaches far more likely to actually develop them.

Yeah, and I can easily say the same thing about losses to Pitt, NC, Syracuse, etc. One play, you could say about all those games, cost us, and we can easily be looking at 9-3 or even 10-2. It goes both ways. I'm so sick of everyone saying that Michigan gave us the game, but then not pointing out that we did the same for NC, Pitt and Syracuse. If you're going to use that bullshit excuse, then use it both ways. The bottom line is the scoreboard, and that says we won the Mich game and lost the other 3, and that's why we're 6-6.

And why will Mich be better and we won't? Mich was a top 25 team before the season started, and they regressed worse than we did last year. Nothing about Mich, even though BitchRod has turned around other programs, tells me they'll be super improved next year. Look deep into that situation. DickRod is blaming EVERYONE but himself for this year, and people are more pissed at him than ND fans at CW.

I'm not counting any of those games as losses, except for USC, which we at least get at home (at our current rate, we should lose only 38-6). BC says bye-bye to all those 5th year seniors they had, and we get them at home. Pitt ain't an automatic loss next year, hell no. We had them this year and we screwed that one up. And as bad as CW has been, they still have Wansdstache, who is just as bad and was this close to being fired as well. We get Mich St. next year at home, and Ringer will be gone to the pros, and that game is almost always fantastic, regardless of the records. I'm not going to dismiss this as a loss, hell no.

Now, I'm not an idiot, I know how this team regressed, and I completely agree with CW being on the hot seat. But whereas NDMontana said he thinks we're going to lose to those teams (I can see it as well), you're just straight out calling them losses. Why the hell are we even playing then? Why do you even watch? I'm a realist, believe me (11, 12 wins, with the way we finished? Please), but I ain't a quitter, and I'm not going to concede any games and count them as losses. We'll have a veteran group next year, and those types of teams can win in spite of their coach. I can see us winning anywhere from 6-10 games next year. I'm hoping for the latter, obviously, but I'm not stupid enough to think 6 won't happen either. But I'm not going to concede it, hell no...
 

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I hope to God no recruits are reading any of these boards because the negativity is unreal lately!

great point jeremy and good thing to keep in mind. unfortunately, when it takes us 2.5 quarters to get a first down against USC with no real clue in sight the negativity will persist. i for one want to see positive, constructive adjustments made to bring this program back to respectability. i truly hope jack forces change.
 

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I wasn't being negative, I'm just stating that no one can say we are guarranteed anything. I hope we improve, but I can't bring myself to be overly optomistic until I'm proven wrong. Lets see what happens during the offseason before we get all crazy with expectations.

Did not mean you man! I just get sick of reading the same old crap on this board every day sense the season was over. Weis is our coach, will pull in a top 10 class this year, will win a bowl against a weak opponent, win 9 games next year, still get destroyed by USC & bowl game, and will be our coach for at least the next 2 seasons. If he is not gone this year he will not be gone after winning 9 games at least next year. Support the team which includes the coach and MOVE on!

Time for a break from this BS for awhile for me!
 

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Yeah, and I can easily say the same thing about losses to Pitt, NC, Syracuse, etc. One play, you could say about all those games, cost us,

I wasn't talking about one play, I was talking about two separate halves of football. Nor did I say "we didn't won, they lost". All I said was that we pretend that was a huge blowout win 3 months later, when in fact, it was much closer than it should have been. As was the Navy game.

And why will Mich be better and we won't?

Coaching. I get it, you don't respect Rodriguez. But, he's a coach who has legit developed players in the past, and has legit won in college football. His record at WV wasn't smoke and mirrors. Just because he's an ass doesn't mean he can't coach. We call hate Michigan, but we need to take off the blinders a bit; they'll be better because they have a better coach. We WON'T be much better; at least not because of the coaching.

Why the hell are we even playing then? Why do you even watch?

Come on??? I dunno, I'm a masochist, I guess.

I'm a realist, believe me (11, 12 wins, with the way we finished? Please), but I ain't a quitter, and I'm not going to concede any games and count them as losses. We'll have a veteran group next year, and those types of teams can win in spite of their coach. I can see us winning anywhere from 6-10 games next year. I'm hoping for the latter, obviously, but I'm not stupid enough to think 6 won't happen either. But I'm not going to concede it, hell no...

YOU don't have to concede anything. I don't WANT to lose these games, but if you step back and look at this unemotionally and with an analytical eye, there is simply no reason to expect a lot of these games will go our way. Now, if JC looks like Quinn after a game or two, or Crist ends up starting and is amazing, or we get a new OC, or the line deicdes to block someone, or you know SOMETHING happens that will significantly change the trends, then we can reevaluate the way things may go. But this thread is about meaningless fan prognostication, and dammit, I'm exercising my right as an American and a Domer to do so!
 

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Must Wins:
Nevada, Washington, Washington State, Navy, Connecticut, Stanford

Close Calls:
Michigan, Purdue, Michigan State, Boston College, Pittsburg

Miracle Required:
USC

I'm going to take an optimistic view of next year. I'm going to assume we improve and the team that shows up next year is the one we saw flashes of this year. Which I would figure would give us loss to SC and maybe a loss in one of the close call games. So 10-2. Possibly 9-3. Anything less would be a disappointment.

As for the bowl game I think we will play a good team but lose just like in 05 and 06.
 

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I saw somewhere online today that Powlus might be out, and DC will challenge Jimmy C. for QB in the Spring...........
 

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I'm not being delusional at all. If we are not 11-1 next year then this experiment is a failure. Michigan close call? eh? The better part of their defense will be in the NFL, they will have a freshman QB not named Terelle Pryor, and no they weren't a Top25 this year.

The only close ones I see are MSU and Pitt and we should be competitive with USC.
 

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The only close ones I see are MSU and Pitt and we should be competitive with USC.

??? Ok where is phork? What have you done with him? Some positive person has done something with phork and is posting in his place. (just kidding man, I agree with you and like your prediction and point of view on the whole thing).
 

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There is some real delusional thinking going on here. 12 - 0 predictions? REALLY? 9 games? Really? Sorry, but I've seen regression for two straight seasons, and trendlines are pointing down still. Michigan will be better (shoot, if they don't hand us the ball in the first half, we'd have lost that game to McGuffie all by himself if you don't remember). Pitt and State are losses, and we'll probably lose an embarrassing one to one of the Washington teams ala Syracuse. Of course, BC and SC are auto losses - they just are always better prepared for a game. Who knows what will happen with Nevada, PU and Stanford - teams in flux with lots of decent players and potential - but with coaches far more likely to actually develop them.


Regression? really? 3-9 to 6-6 is improvement any way you slice it. I figured 8-4 or 7-5 this year. We were maybe 4 plays away from 8-4 this year. Almost everyone will be upperclassmen and everyone will be playing for their livelyhoods. I see this as 2005 redux. Only USC will have more talent. We probably get caught by Michigan or Michigan st. Other than that? 10-2 and a return to the BCS.........


And still people will bitch.
 

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I hope to God no recruits are reading any of these boards because the negativity is unreal lately!

I agree. I'm new and thinking about boycott on here just because 75 percent of people on here are so negative. I think we have a bunch of f'n turncoats on this board......Why don't you guys go cheer for SC......you pretty much already do anyway.
 

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Regression? really? 3-9 to 6-6 is improvement any way you slice it. I figured 8-4 or 7-5 this year. We were maybe 4 plays away from 8-4 this year. Almost everyone will be upperclassmen and everyone will be playing for their livelyhoods. I see this as 2005 redux. Only USC will have more talent. We probably get caught by Michigan or Michigan st. Other than that? 10-2 and a return to the BCS.........


And still people will bitch.

Yah, and we are also the same amount of plays from going 3-9 again. You can call me negative all you damn please, but the facts are the facts and I am here to discuss what is actually happening, not some view through rose colored glasses.
 

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I hope to God no recruits are reading any of these boards because the negativity is unreal lately!

If I'm a recruit and I read a negative comment then I would want to go there and ahve that person eat their words. Some negative comment wouldn't stop me from going to a school that I want to attend.
 

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Regression? really? 3-9 to 6-6 is improvement any way you slice it. I figured 8-4 or 7-5 this year. We were maybe 4 plays away from 8-4 this year. Almost everyone will be upperclassmen and everyone will be playing for their livelyhoods. I see this as 2005 redux. Only USC will have more talent. We probably get caught by Michigan or Michigan st. Other than that? 10-2 and a return to the BCS.........


And still people will bitch.

I don't know...I find myself turning into a negative nancy, but I think if we start with a SOLID win vs. Nevada (14+), the confidence is going to be flowing and start a special season. I do think that first game has the potential to be the most pressure-packed game for Notre Dame football in 15 years. Everyone will be talking about Charlie's job security now until kickoff, Jimmy's progress is now being questioned, and we haven't had a 100-yard rusher against a team with a winning record since the Clinton administration (kidding. kind of.). If we see a SDSU-redux, the questions will continue...
 

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You MUST be postin over on SOSH...

Actually I'm on SawxHeads and it's pretty good conversation. Even the Francona haters are good posters but sometimes they're a bit much to bear.

I had a membership on SOSH but after waiting to get approved and then reading the posts I decided to let that membership go inactive. Although Boston.com is the WORST of the worst. Those message boards are ridiculous.
 
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Michigan? Seriously? Did they magically create another Pryor? There is no way we lose to Michigan next year!

If Michigan wouldn't have turned the ball over six times we would have lost to them this year. I don't see them making the same mistakes next year.
 

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Regression? really? 3-9 to 6-6 is improvement any way you slice it. I figured 8-4 or 7-5 this year. We were maybe 4 plays away from 8-4 this year. Almost everyone will be upperclassmen and everyone will be playing for their livelyhoods. I see this as 2005 redux. Only USC will have more talent. We probably get caught by Michigan or Michigan st. Other than that? 10-2 and a return to the BCS.........


And still people will bitch.


I know... I thought the same thing. 6-6 is better than 3-9. Not the way we as fans like it but it's an "improvement" any way you look at it. I see us going 8-4 or 9-3 next year and we will NOT loss to Michigan next year or the next or the next!! Richrod is gonna need sometime to get his system installed. Also, McDuffie may not be coming back. He's back in Texas for personal reasons..

About the players being upperclassmen next year, that should mean a lot!! With the talent on the team, NFL scouters will be watching. So, you would think that players would be flying around cracking skulls.. We'll have to wait and see..

Bottomline, No matter how much ND "improves".. There will always be fans bitching about something.
 

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I know... I thought the same thing. 6-6 is better than 3-9. Not the way we as fans like it but it's an "improvement" any way you look at it. I see us going 8-4 or 9-3 next year and we will NOT loss to Michigan next year or the next or the next!! Richrod is gonna need sometime to get his system installed. Also, McDuffie may not be coming back. He's back in Texas for personal reasons..

About the players being upperclassmen next year, that should mean a lot!! With the talent on the team, NFL scouters will be watching. So, you would think that players would be flying around cracking skulls.. We'll have to wait and see..

Bottomline, No matter how much ND "improves".. There will always be fans bitching about something.

Any progress achieved early on was, at best, a wash by the end of the season. People keep talking about Pitt being a close loss....we were facing their second (or was he third?) string quarterback. BC shut us out. We lost to a 2-8 team. Then, in keeping with the status quo, we got rolled by USC. Our offense couldn't run the ball against the 109th defense in the country ('Cuse), JC was plagued by interceptions, the play calling against USC was awful, etc.

You guys are trying to make a terd smell like a rose. Please just be realistic. There was a lot to like at times this year, there was a lot not to like, too. This season can't be characterized as a failure and it can't be characterized as a success....hmm I guess that's what a .500 record indicates.
 

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If I'm a recruit and I read a negative comment then I would want to go there and ahve that person eat their words. Some negative comment wouldn't stop me from going to a school that I want to attend.


so in other words the negative people on here are doing us a favor by motivating kids to come to notre dame......oh i see now.....
 

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Point taken.

Yet is being critical negative? I've been critical of some of the playcalling, well the majority of the playcalling, but I don't consider myself a "turncoat". Some of these posters that are being bashed for expressing dissapointment have been fans for years on end. Criticism of a team does not mean you're a bandwagoner or jumping a cliff. Now the personal attacks are ridiculous but to criticize... No.
 

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If some kid is going to read this board and say "Hell no" to ND because of some comment I made, then I feel bad for him. I would hope his Education, his playing career and his life are more important than some guy on a message board ranting over the state of his favorite program.
As fans we have license to criticize, and justifiably so.
 

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If some kid is going to read this board and say "Hell no" to ND because of some comment I made, then I feel bad for him. I would hope his Education, his playing career and his life are more important than some guy on a message board ranting over the state of his favorite program.
As fans we have license to criticize, and justifiably so.

Reps

These kids are 17 or 18. They have girls hanging all over them, if they're being considered by ND they are probably doing some heavy studying, hanging out with friends, working out and practicing for football along with the other sports that they play. I'm sure this message board is the last place that they'd be.

Even if I were them I would be excited to read this board. There are a lot of fans with unflappable faith in the team, a lot of fans who are not happy with the way things are going but, most importantly, fans who care. The difference between USC and Notre Dame is that we're still here after a miserable season, followed up by a .500 season. If USC has one bad year the Coliseum will be 1/4 full. That's how USC fans operate....it's all about what's sexy right now. USC isn't alone. Miami is a case in point: Joe Robbie Stadium--or whatever they call it now--is usually 20% of capacity when the Canes play. But ND Stadium is still buzzing. That's why you come to Notre Dame.
 
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These kids are 17 or 18. They have girls hanging all over them, if they're being considered by ND they are probably doing some heavy studying, hanging out with friends, working out and practicing for football along with the other sports that they play. I'm sure this message board is the last place that they'd be.

Even if I were them I would be excited to read this board. There are a lot of fans with unflappable faith in the team, a lot of fans who are not happy with the way things are going but, most importantly, fans who care. The difference between USC and Notre Dame is that we're still here after a miserable season, followed up by a .500 season. If USC has one bad year the Coliseum will be 1/4 full. That's how USC fans operate....it's all about what's sexy right now. USC isn't alone. Miami is a case in point: Joe Robbie Stadium--or whatever they call it now--is usually 20% of capacity when the Canes play. But ND Stadium is still buzzing. That's why you come to Notre Dame.

Terrific post! Couldn't agree more.

ND has been, and will always be, relevant.

So haters can hate, but the hatin' just keeps us all the more relevant.

Notre Dame WILL be back - just wait.
 

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Sept. 5 NEVADA - W

Sept. 12 at Michigan - W

Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE - L

Sept. 26 at Purdue - W

Oct. 3 WASHINGTON - W

Oct. 10 Open Date

Oct. 17 USC - L

Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE - L

Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas) - W

Nov. 7 NAVY - W

Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh - L

Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT - W

Nov. 28 at Stanford - L
 

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Sept. 5 NEVADA - W

Sept. 12 at Michigan - W

Sept. 19 MICHIGAN STATE - W

Sept. 26 at Purdue - W

Oct. 3 WASHINGTON - W

Oct. 10 Open Date

Oct. 17 USC - W

Oct. 24 BOSTON COLLEGE - W

Oct. 31 vs. Washington State (at San Antonio, Texas) - W

Nov. 7 NAVY - W

Nov. 14 at Pittsburgh - W

Nov. 21 CONNECTICUT - W

Nov. 28 at Stanford - W


Here, I fixed your post for you.
 

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Man feels great to be undefeated next year, already.
 
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