Wow. Charlie Weis is in DENIAL. Read this Tribune piece.

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Listen, PAL, shove it up your hole. I don't HATE Jimmy Clausen, I'm just not enamored with his VERY MEDIOCRE play. And I don't hate Notre Dame, I just won't settle for mediocrity like you. And damn right I blasted the above post. It is so ridiculous I can't even believe 15 posters let it slide without attacking it. Anybody who would even jokingly predict 11 wins after the 2 seasons we have just had is either a mindless lemming or a serious drug addict.

OK Jimmy stalker, whatever. I pledged not to call people names, even markmays like yourself. I just find it funny that you call someone a lemming when you have made some of the most assinine, markmay comments I've read on this board.

I'm not settling for mediocrity. I'm just not like you (and thank God for that). I'm a realist; you're a markmay-ist. You don't see things analytically while watching a football game at all; your prior posts in the past month prove that. You scream for this and that as if you expect a true sophmore with a HORRIBLE line and ZERO running game should be putting up Heisman numbers. You scream for this and that as if we should be competing for a NC coming off a 3-9 season. You don't even want us to go to bowl game and accpet extra practice time (I don't care who the coaches are, the young guys need reps in a bad way---ANY PROGRAM WILL TELL YOU THAT). And look, I'm sorry that your boy Cody Hawkins lost his starting job at ColoSucko (even though his dday is the coach) the day you annointed him Jimmy's equal. I really am sorry.

Any fan HATES what's going on. I'm not accepting mediocrity. I'm just not accepting markmays like you who hate ND to come on here and attack other posters and just talk out of your ass anytime something goes wrong. There's a lot of guys who come one here and rip CW and I have no problem with it. But you just make comments just to make comments and stir the pot (and you sound stupid doing it), and even the mods called you out on it. Now go watch espn so you can copy what Fark Gay has to say and you can post it right afterwards...
 

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Who makes $600k? Certainly, not Charlie. He is reported to make $4.2 million per year.

The press always runs with this, but how did they figure that out? When the news reports how much CW is supposedly making, they always say the total contract is "reportedly worth ____." The contract itself is subject to CW's privacy, so no news reporter has seen it or can publicly state how much his year to year pay is. They arrive at that figure by simply dividing the total "reported" value of the contract by the number of years.

I have heard from people with ties to the admin that his contract is very back loaded and incentive laden. I think that's what LMI meant when he says CW doesn't make $4m per year currently. The exact details obviously are only known by CW and the admin at ND.
 
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midwestugy and NDinLA, you need to tone it down and stop the attacks towards each other. I bumped the warning by ACamp for a reason. please read it and heed it.
 

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Got the message Socal. I'm through. I won't respond no matter what he calls me. I apologize, won't happen again...
 

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FYI...He only makes $600k...I would not mind that either.

If so, the buyout is even less! Seriously, this season has been sad. I will give Charlie a pass if he replaces Latina, brings in an offensive coach who knows how to call plays, and keeps up the good recruiting. If Latina is back, look for more of this and last year.
 

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If so, the buyout is even less! Seriously, this season has been sad. I will give Charlie a pass if he replaces Latina, brings in an offensive coach who knows how to call plays, and keeps up the good recruiting. If Latina is back, look for more of this and last year.

Ever think that Latina's 10+ years of success as an OL coach might be negated by too complex a playbook by an OC from the pros?
 

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Most embarrassing win over SD St. (at home), most embarrassing loss to Syracuse (at home), can't hold a lead (up 28-7 to Stanford, up 27-7 to Navy, up 17-3 to Pitt, up 17-9 to UNC, up 23 -10 over Syracuse). He says they were a lousy team last year? He was a worse coach. He says they are a decent team this year? They were capable of being a good team but thanks to Charlie they were a lousy team. Not because of a 6-5 record but because of the way they found ways to lose after demonstrating they were better than the competition. These kids are not being developed and it started showing at UNC. When people ask the question about what good coaches are out there? I would take a ton of coaches over CW. He is not a good head coach and not a good assitant position college coach. He is one good thing....a recruiter. He gave us 1-2 good years, Ty gave us one and so did Davies. If we get any one of the different coaches mentioned in the various posts we will be better off. We are just too one dimensional. ND is known for it's ground game and it's tough physical type of play (which CW promised and hasn't delivered). CW has fielded some of the softest teams physically at ND. I like alot of things about him but he can't get these kids fired up.
 

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Listen, PAL, shove it up your hole. I don't HATE Jimmy Clausen, I'm just not enamored with his VERY MEDIOCRE play. And I don't hate Notre Dame, I just won't settle for mediocrity like you. And damn right I blasted the above post. It is so ridiculous I can't even believe 15 posters let it slide without attacking it. Anybody who would even jokingly predict 11 wins after the 2 seasons we have just had is either a mindless lemming or a serious drug addict.

Don't worry bro. Mr. NDinLA seems to read into things that just around there. Check out a couple of our exchanges. Then claims to "burn you" with words that you never even said. Its fruitless arguing with guys like that because they always read into something thats not there to begin with.
 

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Ever think that Latina's 10+ years of success as an OL coach might be negated by too complex a playbook by an OC from the pros?

10+ years minus 4 years! He has not had a good year sense being at Notre Dame. Even when we were winning the OL was always the problem against the larger teams.
 

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Don't worry bro. Mr. NDinLA seems to read into things that just around there. Check out a couple of our exchanges. Then claims to "burn you" with words that you never even said. Its fruitless arguing with guys like that because they always read into something thats not there to begin with.

You guys are perfect for each other! I love it! Like peas in a pod!

Read the posts again Phork my man. I used your own EXACT words. Maybe next time I'll change them around, and then you'll give me credit for putting it way you had originally meant for you. Ex: Your words were that our defense giving up 200 yards on the ground (which didn't) to Navy (when ALL they do is run) is embarrassing, but then you also give our defense full credit for winning that game (sorry, I still can't get over that one -- too funny).

P.S. Phork, how do you like your toast? Oh, that's easy...burnt.

But I still love you. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf with guys like you. I even had a cold one with my man NDOM!...
 
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Ever think that Latina's 10+ years of success as an OL coach might be negated by too complex a playbook by an OC from the pros?


Run blocking is still run blocking, pass blocking is still pass blocking and screens/draws are still screens/draws regardless of what constitutes your playbook.
 

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You guys are perfect for each other! I love it! Like peas in a pod!

Read the posts again Phork my man. I used your own EXACT words. Maybe next time I'll change them around, and then you'll give me credit for putting it way you had originally meant for you. Ex: Your words were that our defense giving up 200 yards on the ground (which didn't) to Navy (when ALL they do is run) is embarrassing, but then you also give our defense full credit for winning that game (sorry, I still can't get over that one -- too funny).

P.S. Phork, how do you like your toast? Oh, that's easy...burnt.

But I still love you. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf with guys like you. I even had a cold one with my man NDOM!...


Hell yeah! Shall we have another?
 

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Hell yeah! Shall we have another?

Hell yeah we should have another!!! We lost to friggin' Syracuse for Pete's sake. We need more than another! I owe you big time! I'd buy you one of someone could tell how the hell you do that. CHEERS!
 

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Hey, [NAME REDACTED].....

Decent football team?

You know what you have?

You have a 6-5 (soon to be 6-6) football team.

And that's "not good enough."
 

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Run blocking is still run blocking, pass blocking is still pass blocking and screens/draws are still screens/draws regardless of what constitutes your playbook.

Not true, sorry...nice way to try and simplify it, but it's not true.

I think it was Sam Young who talked about how amazing it was to be part of a play book where it began with: Kick out with the right foot, step forward 2 feet and pivot, 30 degrees left...

Sometimes it's too complicated for kids...it happens.
 

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Not true, sorry...nice way to try and simplify it, but it's not true.

I think it was Sam Young who talked about how amazing it was to be part of a play book where it began with: Kick out with the right foot, step forward 2 feet and pivot, 30 degrees left...

Sometimes it's too complicated for kids...it happens.

Sometimes kicker is left footed, holder is right handed, and snapper snaps too fast to a target off to the side. Get a clue Weis.

Sometimes the premise is wrong.

Fix it.
 
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Not true, sorry...nice way to try and simplify it, but it's not true.

I think it was Sam Young who talked about how amazing it was to be part of a play book where it began with: Kick out with the right foot, step forward 2 feet and pivot, 30 degrees left...

Sometimes it's too complicated for kids...it happens.

Yes, true, sorry. Step forward two feet, huh? When you have a man lined up across from you he's about two inches away on the snap and will make first contact in tenths of a second.

When the play is going to the left, you block to the right. Lets say that you're running between the right guard and tackle....the guard pushes, or attempts to push, his man to the left and the tackle pushes his man to the right...it opens the hole. Blocking is the simplest part of the game and the most difficult task to perform.

I wasn't attempting to try TO simplify the issue. Blocking is blocking and, no, it's nothing more elegant than that.
 

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Back to the field goal thing...

Walker's technique is all wrong. He needs to decide if he is "soccer style", or straight up old school. He is a hybrid. I won't go into details, but his technique shortens ability to kick long and accurate. History of bad snaps and holds crushes confidence.

Too bad. He has a rocket leg.
 

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I think it was Sam Young who talked about how amazing it was to be part of a play book where it began with: Kick out with the right foot, step forward 2 feet and pivot, 30 degrees left...

Sometimes it's too complicated for kids...it happens.

Wow, if so, that is ridiculous. They need to stop making them dance around and let them man up and hit.
 
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