Some thoughts about the season.

[IHateMarkMay]

Personally, I think Charlie Weis needs to stay one more year. If things crumble to the ground again next year and we have anything short of a 9 win season (yes including the bowl) we might need to think about this again. I know we are Notre Dame and we all expect the football team to bleed excellence, and we all believe this, but sometimes you have to accept improvement and not just a complete turnaround. This is the same team who won 3 games last year. Just 3 games. Historic losses to Navy and Air Force, blowouts to USC, UM, and unranked at the time Georgia Tech. Fast forward a year and we are looking at a 6 win season, perhaps a bowl bid. We lost any thought of a bowl on October 20th of last year with that USC loss. This year we can still go to a bowl if we are 6-6, might not be the best bowl, but a bowl. The bowls want us because we are Notre Dame, we are a high profile team that will put butts in the seats.
As for this year, our play as of recent has been dispicible. We are beating teams that we should walk all over by forty and we are getting beat by teams that we should probably beat. A loss to Syracuse is never excusable, but the heart those kids from Syracuse played with should be a lesson to our players that it's not always about talent, but about a passion to play the game. Our kids have the talent, but the passion lacks. I think that loss to UNC really put a dent in our kid's passion to play, then after the overtime loss to Pittsburgh was the icing on the passion cake. Including the UNC game, we have gone 2-4, losing to (arguably) teams we could have and should have beat. All four of them. However, just because you are supposed to beat someone doesn't mean its going to happen. Anything can happen at any game.
Charlie Weis's first two years here were anything what we expected. Anytime a new coach comes into a system expectations are always lower. We went 6-5 during the regular season in 2004. We lost a bowl game which made us 6-6. The next year we got Charlie Weis. Expectations had to be, at best, an 8 win season. However he gave us 9-2 regular season with another bowl loss to make it 9-3. He produed a three game turnaround with a team who had a different coach the year before. The year after that he went 10-2 in the regular season and 10-3 overall. I've preached this before and i stand by my point that, in most cases, teams go through a growing pain period between coaches. Charlie didn't give us that period when he first came here. If you switch the first two years he was here with the last two, it doesn't look as bad with 3 wins, then 6, then 9, then 10. That seems to be normal for a team on the right track. These past two years have been a Notre Dame team growing up. Everybody knows you aren't born one day and are all of a sudden an adult the next. Last year we were an infant in college football, this year we are hitting the teen years which suck for just about everybody.
As for what I believe Charlie needs to do about the problems we have with putting points up and keeping our foot on the gas pedals is to have him continue his coaching duties, however, change is needed. Keep the defense the same, they have shown drastic improvement this year from last year. I would love to see Tenuta and Brown blitz more and confuse the opposing offenses more with different packages and blitzes though. As for the offense. I feel Charlie has to give up play calling duties and we need to hire in a true, college coach who can fill an offensive coordinator spot. Look towards the mid-majors and find a guy who knows how to put points up on the board and not look back until that clock shows four zeros. A guy from a school like Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, TCU, or Utah.
I was born a Notre Dame fan and I bleed the blue and gold. I drink the kool-aid at the beginning of each year. Hind-sight is 20/20 though. I think all of us need to, have our own opinions, but respect and support whatever happens with our team. The same with our government... do some people want there to be a war against terrorism? Some do not, however, everybody should support the troops regardless if you think we should be over there or not. I will continue to love this team regardless of how the record looks. Everybody should, we are Notre Dame.

 

[phork]

Stop defending the guy. Duke lost every game last year and only won 6 games TOTAL in the last 8 years. This year they won 4, clearly we have more talent than they do. Yet we are only 2 wins better.

Blitz more? Why, so we can lose by more? While I agree that our defense has improved, the blitzing schemes have failed thoroughly.

GET OFF THE KOOL-AID.

 

[Irishkid23]

Personally, I think Charlie Weis needs to stay one more year. If things crumble to the ground again next year and we have anything short of a 9 win season (yes including the bowl) we might need to think about this again. I know we are Notre Dame and we all expect the football team to bleed excellence, and we all believe this, but sometimes you have to accept improvement and not just a complete turnaround. This is the same team who won 3 games last year. Just 3 games. Historic losses to Navy and Air Force, blowouts to USC, UM, and unranked at the time Georgia Tech. Fast forward a year and we are looking at a 6 win season, perhaps a bowl bid. We lost any thought of a bowl on October 20th of last year with that USC loss. This year we can still go to a bowl if we are 6-6, might not be the best bowl, but a bowl. The bowls want us because we are Notre Dame, we are a high profile team that will put butts in the seats.
As for this year, our play as of recent has been dispicible. We are beating teams that we should walk all over by forty and we are getting beat by teams that we should probably beat. A loss to Syracuse is never excusable, but the heart those kids from Syracuse played with should be a lesson to our players that it's not always about talent, but about a passion to play the game. Our kids have the talent, but the passion lacks. I think that loss to UNC really put a dent in our kid's passion to play, then after the overtime loss to Pittsburgh was the icing on the passion cake. Including the UNC game, we have gone 2-4, losing to (arguably) teams we could have and should have beat. All four of them. However, just because you are supposed to beat someone doesn't mean its going to happen. Anything can happen at any game.
Charlie Weis's first two years here were anything what we expected. Anytime a new coach comes into a system expectations are always lower. We went 6-5 during the regular season in 2004. We lost a bowl game which made us 6-6. The next year we got Charlie Weis. Expectations had to be, at best, an 8 win season. However he gave us 9-2 regular season with another bowl loss to make it 9-3. He produed a three game turnaround with a team who had a different coach the year before. The year after that he went 10-2 in the regular season and 10-3 overall. I've preached this before and i stand by my point that, in most cases, teams go through a growing pain period between coaches. Charlie didn't give us that period when he first came here. If you switch the first two years he was here with the last two, it doesn't look as bad with 3 wins, then 6, then 9, then 10. That seems to be normal for a team on the right track. These past two years have been a Notre Dame team growing up. Everybody knows you aren't born one day and are all of a sudden an adult the next. Last year we were an infant in college football, this year we are hitting the teen years which suck for just about everybody.
As for what I believe Charlie needs to do about the problems we have with putting points up and keeping our foot on the gas pedals is to have him continue his coaching duties, however, change is needed. Keep the defense the same, they have shown drastic improvement this year from last year. I would love to see Tenuta and Brown blitz more and confuse the opposing offenses more with different packages and blitzes though. As for the offense. I feel Charlie has to give up play calling duties and we need to hire in a true, college coach who can fill an offensive coordinator spot. Look towards the mid-majors and find a guy who knows how to put points up on the board and not look back until that clock shows four zeros. A guy from a school like Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, TCU, or Utah.
I was born a Notre Dame fan and I bleed the blue and gold. I drink the kool-aid at the beginning of each year. Hind-sight is 20/20 though. I think all of us need to, have our own opinions, but respect and support whatever happens with our team. The same with our government... do some people want there to be a war against terrorism? Some do not, however, everybody should support the troops regardless if you think we should be over there or not. I will continue to love this team regardless of how the record looks. Everybody should, we are Notre Dame.

I respect your opinion, but CHARLIE DOES NOT DESERVE ONE MORE YEAR. He's sucks as a college coach. He is a great recruiter, but after losing to Syracuse, I am afraid that some of the current recruits will decommit. You can bet your A _ _ that the other college coaches are contacting our recruits and telling them "Do you want to play for a coach/team that can't beat a 2-8 team, one of the worst in college football, at home on senior day"? We need a proven college head coach.

The administration and the Board of Trustees has really screwed things up since Lou left.

Charlie should have the decency to step down and forgo his contract "for the Good of ND football."
Or will his arogance again be in the way?

I am certain you have heard that he has lost many recruits based upon his arrogance. One example is Terrell Pyror, who is now at Ohio State.

 

[midwestguy]

I am not a violent person, but I seriously would punch you in the face if you tried telling me this in person.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

IHateMarkMay: Beautiful post dude. Agree with you. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Irishkid23]

I am not a violent person, but I seriously would punch you in the face if you tried telling me this in person.

You mean you would punch IhateMarkMay?

 

[NDOM]

Personally, I think Charlie Weis needs to stay one more year. If things crumble to the ground again next year and we have anything short of a 9 win season (yes including the bowl) we might need to think about this again. I know we are Notre Dame and we all expect the football team to bleed excellence, and we all believe this, but sometimes you have to accept improvement and not just a complete turnaround. This is the same team who won 3 games last year. Just 3 games. Historic losses to Navy and Air Force, blowouts to USC, UM, and unranked at the time Georgia Tech. Fast forward a year and we are looking at a 6 win season, perhaps a bowl bid. We lost any thought of a bowl on October 20th of last year with that USC loss. This year we can still go to a bowl if we are 6-6, might not be the best bowl, but a bowl. The bowls want us because we are Notre Dame, we are a high profile team that will put butts in the seats.
As for this year, our play as of recent has been dispicible. We are beating teams that we should walk all over by forty and we are getting beat by teams that we should probably beat. A loss to Syracuse is never excusable, but the heart those kids from Syracuse played with should be a lesson to our players that it's not always about talent, but about a passion to play the game. Our kids have the talent, but the passion lacks. I think that loss to UNC really put a dent in our kid's passion to play, then after the overtime loss to Pittsburgh was the icing on the passion cake. Including the UNC game, we have gone 2-4, losing to (arguably) teams we could have and should have beat. All four of them. However, just because you are supposed to beat someone doesn't mean its going to happen. Anything can happen at any game.
Charlie Weis's first two years here were anything what we expected. Anytime a new coach comes into a system expectations are always lower. We went 6-5 during the regular season in 2004. We lost a bowl game which made us 6-6. The next year we got Charlie Weis. Expectations had to be, at best, an 8 win season. However he gave us 9-2 regular season with another bowl loss to make it 9-3. He produed a three game turnaround with a team who had a different coach the year before. The year after that he went 10-2 in the regular season and 10-3 overall. I've preached this before and i stand by my point that, in most cases, teams go through a growing pain period between coaches. Charlie didn't give us that period when he first came here. If you switch the first two years he was here with the last two, it doesn't look as bad with 3 wins, then 6, then 9, then 10. That seems to be normal for a team on the right track. These past two years have been a Notre Dame team growing up. Everybody knows you aren't born one day and are all of a sudden an adult the next. Last year we were an infant in college football, this year we are hitting the teen years which suck for just about everybody.
As for what I believe Charlie needs to do about the problems we have with putting points up and keeping our foot on the gas pedals is to have him continue his coaching duties, however, change is needed. Keep the defense the same, they have shown drastic improvement this year from last year. I would love to see Tenuta and Brown blitz more and confuse the opposing offenses more with different packages and blitzes though. As for the offense. I feel Charlie has to give up play calling duties and we need to hire in a true, college coach who can fill an offensive coordinator spot. Look towards the mid-majors and find a guy who knows how to put points up on the board and not look back until that clock shows four zeros. A guy from a school like Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, TCU, or Utah.
I was born a Notre Dame fan and I bleed the blue and gold. I drink the kool-aid at the beginning of each year. Hind-sight is 20/20 though. I think all of us need to, have our own opinions, but respect and support whatever happens with our team. The same with our government... do some people want there to be a war against terrorism? Some do not, however, everybody should support the troops regardless if you think we should be over there or not. I will continue to love this team regardless of how the record looks. Everybody should, we are Notre Dame.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

I am not a violent person, but I seriously would punch you in the face if you tried telling me this in person.

That would be a violent action.

 

[midwestguy]

You mean you would punch IhateMarkMay?

Yes.

 

[Irishkid23]

Charlie needs to do the right thing and "STEP DOWN"

Charlie needs to do the right thing and "STEP DOWN"

Yes.

I understand your frustration completely. But, we need to show people that change is needed right now. If we wait until after next year, then things will get even worse. It appears to me that Charlie has lost the team and that trickles down to the freshman and the recruits. They do not appear to believe in him and have "NO FIRE IN THEIR EYES!" I do not believe things are going to be different next year no matter what BS Charlie tells us. The kids do not believe, as evidenced by their performance on the field, and that, as we all know, is a BIG coaching problem.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I am not a violent person, but I seriously would punch you in the face if you tried telling me this in person.

If you would punch someone in the face for voicing an opinion, you have bigger things to worry about than Notre Dame football.

 

[kmoose]

I am not a violent person, but I seriously would punch you in the face if you tried telling me this in person.

Most retarded people aren't.

 

[mooneytostle]

Personally, I think Charlie Weis needs to stay one more year. If things crumble to the ground again next year and we have anything short of a 9 win season (yes including the bowl) we might need to think about this again. I know we are Notre Dame and we all expect the football team to bleed excellence, and we all believe this, but sometimes you have to accept improvement and not just a complete turnaround. This is the same team who won 3 games last year. Just 3 games. Historic losses to Navy and Air Force, blowouts to USC, UM, and unranked at the time Georgia Tech. Fast forward a year and we are looking at a 6 win season, perhaps a bowl bid. We lost any thought of a bowl on October 20th of last year with that USC loss. This year we can still go to a bowl if we are 6-6, might not be the best bowl, but a bowl. The bowls want us because we are Notre Dame, we are a high profile team that will put butts in the seats.
As for this year, our play as of recent has been dispicible. We are beating teams that we should walk all over by forty and we are getting beat by teams that we should probably beat. A loss to Syracuse is never excusable, but the heart those kids from Syracuse played with should be a lesson to our players that it's not always about talent, but about a passion to play the game. Our kids have the talent, but the passion lacks. I think that loss to UNC really put a dent in our kid's passion to play, then after the overtime loss to Pittsburgh was the icing on the passion cake. Including the UNC game, we have gone 2-4, losing to (arguably) teams we could have and should have beat. All four of them. However, just because you are supposed to beat someone doesn't mean its going to happen. Anything can happen at any game.
Charlie Weis's first two years here were anything what we expected. Anytime a new coach comes into a system expectations are always lower. We went 6-5 during the regular season in 2004. We lost a bowl game which made us 6-6. The next year we got Charlie Weis. Expectations had to be, at best, an 8 win season. However he gave us 9-2 regular season with another bowl loss to make it 9-3. He produed a three game turnaround with a team who had a different coach the year before. The year after that he went 10-2 in the regular season and 10-3 overall. I've preached this before and i stand by my point that, in most cases, teams go through a growing pain period between coaches. Charlie didn't give us that period when he first came here. If you switch the first two years he was here with the last two, it doesn't look as bad with 3 wins, then 6, then 9, then 10. That seems to be normal for a team on the right track. These past two years have been a Notre Dame team growing up. Everybody knows you aren't born one day and are all of a sudden an adult the next. Last year we were an infant in college football, this year we are hitting the teen years which suck for just about everybody.
As for what I believe Charlie needs to do about the problems we have with putting points up and keeping our foot on the gas pedals is to have him continue his coaching duties, however, change is needed. Keep the defense the same, they have shown drastic improvement this year from last year. I would love to see Tenuta and Brown blitz more and confuse the opposing offenses more with different packages and blitzes though. As for the offense. I feel Charlie has to give up play calling duties and we need to hire in a true, college coach who can fill an offensive coordinator spot. Look towards the mid-majors and find a guy who knows how to put points up on the board and not look back until that clock shows four zeros. A guy from a school like Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, TCU, or Utah.
I was born a Notre Dame fan and I bleed the blue and gold. I drink the kool-aid at the beginning of each year. Hind-sight is 20/20 though. I think all of us need to, have our own opinions, but respect and support whatever happens with our team. The same with our government... do some people want there to be a war against terrorism? Some do not, however, everybody should support the troops regardless if you think we should be over there or not. I will continue to love this team regardless of how the record looks. Everybody should, we are Notre Dame.

a few points:

1) you talk about last season like it was OK to go 3-9. It was not. Did we have a level of talent on the team to go 9-3 or 10-2. No. Absolutely not. But poor coaching decisions by Weis gave us a 3 win season when it should have been at least a 6 win season. Does everyone forget that he spent all of 2007 fall practice attempting to put in a spread offense with Demetrius Jones b/c Ga Tech had a little bit of trouble with it in a bowl game the previous year? Our team did not learn any fundamentals. The Navy game and the Air Force game were inexcusable. Anytime we face an academy, we should be able to line up and pound the ball b/c we have superior physical talent. There is no need to scheme to beat them, no need to be cute. The Navy and Air Force losses last year were avoidable and in turn inexcusable. Also, the MSU, Purdue, & BC games could have easily been wins if we didn't abandon the run in the first quarter. People seem to believe that although we don't have a senior laden offensive line (and obviously didn't last year) that its expected that they won't be good. They all were highly recruited prospects, they should be able to learn how to line up from opponents much smaller than them and push them off the line. Its been 4 years now and the lineman seem to make no progress. 3-9 is never acceptable at Notre Dame. Never. We should have been a .500 team last year based on the talent. Instead, that is what we are this year.

2) This team shows absolutely no progress whatsoever this year. We are as bad at the same things as we were against San Diego State. In some areas we have regressed. the only area that we have improved throughout the year is on field goals, and that is solely b/c Brandon Walker got over some mental issues and started kicking like he has in practice the past two years. Absolutely no progress whatsoever. What the fuck are they doing in practice?

3) For the record, i think strength is a big problem for multiple areas of the team, particularly the offensive and defensive line. We can't get a push on either side of the ball. If this is b/c Mendoza doesn't have them on a program that will get them into the best shape possible, then he should be fired. If Weis is not on top of this, it is his fault for not monitoring the strength and conditioning program.

4) Who the hell is going to come to ND to be the offensive coordinator knowing it is very possible that the head coach will be fired at the end of the year? No one will be eager to take the job, and we will be stuck with Weis who still, after 4 years, has not figured out how to successfully run a college offense. What about 2005 you might say...it has become glaringly obvious how good of a college quarterback Brady Quinn was and that CW's offense requires an excellent quarterback who is mentally proficient. Does that mean that everytime a QB graduates we are to expect a down year (or two) so the QB can learn the offense? That is unacceptable. Bottom line, if CW is still here next year, so is his offense...which sucks.

5) People were so quick to become ardent Weis apologists because of the talent level he was bringing in compared to Willingham. Guess what, the rankings of recruiting classes he has achieved are nothing special at Notre Dame. Since recruits have been given ratings and classes have been ranked, Notre Dame coaches have been extremely successful in bringing in the nation's best talent. Lou had #1 classes, Davie recruited extremely well. Gerry Fucking Faust had three straight #1 recruiting classes. The point is, just bringing in the recruiting classes is not enough. There is no talent development when they get here now, just like there wasn't under Faust. He resigned when he realized he wasn't the guy to get the job done. Weis has done nothing different in recruiting and is not special in that regard, he has only reminded us of the kind of talent that Notre Dame SHOULD be bringing in every year. The only nice thing i can say about Weis at this point as that he has restocked the talent at ND and whoever takes over is in a far better position than it was in 2004.

 

[BeatSC]

Personally, I think Charlie Weis needs to stay one more year. If things crumble to the ground again next year and we have anything short of a 9 win season (yes including the bowl) we might need to think about this again. I know we are Notre Dame and we all expect the football team to bleed excellence, and we all believe this, but sometimes you have to accept improvement and not just a complete turnaround. This is the same team who won 3 games last year. Just 3 games. Historic losses to Navy and Air Force, blowouts to USC, UM, and unranked at the time Georgia Tech. Fast forward a year and we are looking at a 6 win season, perhaps a bowl bid. We lost any thought of a bowl on October 20th of last year with that USC loss. This year we can still go to a bowl if we are 6-6, might not be the best bowl, but a bowl. The bowls want us because we are Notre Dame, we are a high profile team that will put butts in the seats.
As for this year, our play as of recent has been dispicible. We are beating teams that we should walk all over by forty and we are getting beat by teams that we should probably beat. A loss to Syracuse is never excusable, but the heart those kids from Syracuse played with should be a lesson to our players that it's not always about talent, but about a passion to play the game. Our kids have the talent, but the passion lacks. I think that loss to UNC really put a dent in our kid's passion to play, then after the overtime loss to Pittsburgh was the icing on the passion cake. Including the UNC game, we have gone 2-4, losing to (arguably) teams we could have and should have beat. All four of them. However, just because you are supposed to beat someone doesn't mean its going to happen. Anything can happen at any game.
Charlie Weis's first two years here were anything what we expected. Anytime a new coach comes into a system expectations are always lower. We went 6-5 during the regular season in 2004. We lost a bowl game which made us 6-6. The next year we got Charlie Weis. Expectations had to be, at best, an 8 win season. However he gave us 9-2 regular season with another bowl loss to make it 9-3. He produed a three game turnaround with a team who had a different coach the year before. The year after that he went 10-2 in the regular season and 10-3 overall. I've preached this before and i stand by my point that, in most cases, teams go through a growing pain period between coaches. Charlie didn't give us that period when he first came here. If you switch the first two years he was here with the last two, it doesn't look as bad with 3 wins, then 6, then 9, then 10. That seems to be normal for a team on the right track. These past two years have been a Notre Dame team growing up. Everybody knows you aren't born one day and are all of a sudden an adult the next. Last year we were an infant in college football, this year we are hitting the teen years which suck for just about everybody.
As for what I believe Charlie needs to do about the problems we have with putting points up and keeping our foot on the gas pedals is to have him continue his coaching duties, however, change is needed. Keep the defense the same, they have shown drastic improvement this year from last year. I would love to see Tenuta and Brown blitz more and confuse the opposing offenses more with different packages and blitzes though. As for the offense. I feel Charlie has to give up play calling duties and we need to hire in a true, college coach who can fill an offensive coordinator spot. Look towards the mid-majors and find a guy who knows how to put points up on the board and not look back until that clock shows four zeros. A guy from a school like Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, TCU, or Utah.
I was born a Notre Dame fan and I bleed the blue and gold. I drink the kool-aid at the beginning of each year. Hind-sight is 20/20 though. I think all of us need to, have our own opinions, but respect and support whatever happens with our team. The same with our government... do some people want there to be a war against terrorism? Some do not, however, everybody should support the troops regardless if you think we should be over there or not. I will continue to love this team regardless of how the record looks. Everybody should, we are Notre Dame.

This is a very well thought put post but there are too many facts pointing to Charlie's failure to deliver. Ty came in and got 10 wins in his first year. At the very least some of the assistants need to go. I think we would be better off turning Tenuta loose on the D. I wish I had your compsoure about this situation but if CW is there next year I won't be looking forward to next season.

We should enlist Lou in our hunt for the new coach and decision making process. It is obvious how much Lou loves ND. I will say if CW returns and delivers I will gladly stand corrected I just don't want to take the chance again.

 

[kmoose]

This is a very well thought put post but there are too many facts pointing to Charlie's failure to deliver. Ty came in and got 10 wins in his first year. At the very least some of the assistants need to go. I think we would be better off turning Tenuta loose on the D. I wish I had your compsoure about this situation but if CW is there next year I won't be looking forward to next season.

We should enlist Lou in our hunt for the new coach and decision making process. It is obvious how much Lou loves ND. I will say if CW returns and delivers I will gladly stand corrected I just don't want to take the chance again.

Let me ask you this, just because I am curious about how blinded by anger some people are..........let's say the University brings Holtz in to talk about a new Head Coach. Let's say they ask him who should be the Head Coach at ND next year, and he says, "Charlie Weis". Would that change your opinion any?

 

[midwestguy]

Most retarded people aren't.

Did you just call me a retard? Because I think you did. Pretty stupid thing to say. I wonder what your boy Charlie would have to say about that.

 

[WaveDomer]

Did you just call me a retard? Because I think you did. Pretty stupid thing to say. I wonder what your boy Charlie would have to say about that.

Man, you just told someone you would punch them in the face for what they said on a message board about football. Then you reiterated it when someone asked about it. Now you get offended at being called a "retard"? Sometimes Irish Envy is the funniest thing on the Internet, but not on purpose.

 

[midwestguy]

Man, you just told someone you would punch them in the face for what they said on a message board about football. Then you reiterated it when someone asked about it. Now you get offended at being called a "retard"? Sometimes Irish Envy is the funniest thing on the Internet, but not on purpose.

You don't read very well. I did not tell someone I would punch them in the face for what they said on a message board. I wrote that if he SAID that to me in person, I'd punch him in the face. I stand by that statement. Anyone who would give themselves a moniker that is IHateMarkMay tells me all I need to know about him.

 

[BeatSC]

Let me ask you this, just because I am curious about how blinded by anger some people are..........let's say the University brings Holtz in to talk about a new Head Coach. Let's say they ask him who should be the Head Coach at ND next year, and he says, "Charlie Weis". Would that change your opinion any?

Not really because I think Lou sometimes is blinded by his loyalty but if Lou were to agree to mentor CW next season it wouldn't hurt. At this point I am grasping at straws in despair. The season is almost over and it felt like we were getting close and we couldn't win the close ones. San Diego St. win and Syracuse loss a couple of the most underachieving moments in ND history.

Sorry for rambling off the point.

 

[WaveDomer]

You don't read very well. I did not tell someone I would punch them in the face for what they said on a message board. I wrote that if he SAID that to me in person, I'd punch him in the face. I stand by that statement. Anyone who would give themselves a moniker that is IHateMarkMay tells me all I need to know about him.

Oh, I take it back. You would punch someone in the face for something they said in person and not what they wrote. Sorry. I take it back, obviously you are level headed.

 

[midwestguy]

Oh, I take it back. You would punch someone in the face for something they said in person and not what they wrote. Sorry. I take it back, obviously you are level headed.

I never claimed to be level headed. I am able to read though and note distinctions.

 

[WaveDomer]

I never claimed to be level headed. I am able to read though and note distinctions.

Yeah, good one. If you take ND football this seriously you need to do some soul searching. Bottom line: it's not cool to tell someone that you are going to punch them in the face for their football opinion. If you don't agree with their opinion, let them know. Just don't cross the line.

 

[midwestguy]

Yeah, good one. If you take ND football this seriously you need to do some soul searching. Bottom line: it's not cool to tell someone that you are going to punch them in the face for their football opinion. If you don't agree with their opinion, let them know. Just don't cross the line.

Broheim. It was hyperbole. Did you not see the disclaimer that I am not a violent person, but ...

Live your life, I'll live mine. Calling people retards though is very un-PC, especially since Charlie has a daughter with developmental disabilities.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

You don't read very well. I did not tell someone I would punch them in the face for what they said on a message board. I wrote that if he SAID that to me in person, I'd punch him in the face. I stand by that statement. Anyone who would give themselves a moniker that is IHateMarkMay tells me all I need to know about him.

And what does this tell you?

 

[WaveDomer]

Broheim. It was hyperbole. Did you not see the disclaimer that I am not a violent person, but ...

Live your life, I'll live mine. Calling people retards though is very un-PC, especially since Charlie has a daughter with developmental disabilities.

Don't try to cover for yourself. Yes I saw where you said you weren't a violent person, then you went on to say you would "seriously" punch him in the face. Then you take offense to someone responding. Give me a break. As they say, "Don't dish it out if you can't take it." Maybe him calling you a "retard" was hyperbole too? Or maybe I just need to live in the universe where threatening violence on someone is cool and funny, but calling someone an un-pc name is crossing the line.

 

[midwestguy]

And what does this tell you?

You can't take constructive criticism and are likely quite dumb. You'd rather shoot the messenger than look in the mirror and face facts.

You probably voted for a ticket that had Palin on it and didn't even realize how dumb and dangerous that was.

 

[midwestguy]

Don't try to cover for yourself. Yes I saw where you said you weren't a violent person, then you went on to say you would "seriously" punch him in the face. Then you take offense to someone responding. Give me a break. As they say, "Don't dish it out if you can't take it." Maybe him calling you a "retard" was hyperbole too? Or maybe I just need to live in the universe where threatening violence on someone is cool and funny, but calling someone an un-pc name is crossing the line.

Brah, I don't need to "cover for myself." Whatever that means.

And I didn't SERIOUSLY threaten violence since he and I won't be seeing each other in person.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

You can't take constructive criticism and are likely quite dumb. You'd rather shoot the messenger than look in the mirror and face facts.

You probably voted for a ticket that had Palin on it and didn't even realize how dumb and dangerous that was.

Constructive criticism? How is Mark May repeatedly saying ND is not going to win, week in and week out, since he has been on ESPN constructive criticism? He's not saying "oh they just need to make a few of these tweaks and that should help." He is saying that ND is no good, period, nothing constructive.

Why the hell does it matter who you vote for or who you don't vote for? The only thing my moniker should tell you is that i dislike Mark May on espn. I think what you have said in this thread tells much more about you than i have said in my hundreds.

 

[midwestguy]

Constructive criticism? How is Mark May repeatedly saying ND is not going to win, week in and week out, since he has been on ESPN constructive criticism? He's not saying "oh they just need to make a few of these tweaks and that should help." He is saying that ND is no good, period, nothing constructive.

Why the hell does it matter who you vote for or who you don't vote for? The only thing my moniker should tell you is that i dislike Mark May on espn. I think what you have said in this thread tells much more about you than i have said in my hundreds.

Said the guy who voted for Palin.

And, you just don't simply dislike Mark May, you hate him so much that you made your moniker: IHateMarkMay. That is high level hate. IMHO, it speaks volumes about you.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Said the guy who voted for Palin.

And, you just don't simply dislike Mark May, you hate him so much that you made your moniker: IHateMarkMay. That is high level hate. IMHO, it speaks volumes about you.

Like I said earlier, I never once hinted to whom i voted for. I could have voted for myself for all you know. I am still waiting for you to tell me how Mark May gives ND constructive criticism...???