Urban Meyer to be next ND coach?

[KAPLAN]

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Urban Meyer is the next Notre Dame head coach : Fanblogs College Football Blog

 

[mick2]

no

 

[phork]

As stated in the News section here in this forum, I will stop watching the games until he leaves, if he is the next coach. He had his opportunity and dropped us like a dirty shirt and now that we have seen his recruiting tactics... I'll pass.

 

[NDinL.A.]

As stated in the News section here in this forum, I will stop watching the games until he leaves, if he is the next coach. He had his opportunity and dropped us like a dirty shirt and now that we have seen his recruiting tactics... I'll pass.

Can't stand the guy at all. Agreed, although I doubt I'll be able to stop wacthing!

 

[tko]

i'd like to see his daughter in south bend though

 

[KAPLAN]

As stated in the News section here in this forum, I will stop watching the games until he leaves, if he is the next coach. He had his opportunity and dropped us like a dirty shirt and now that we have seen his recruiting tactics... I'll pass.

Bama HATED Saban when he was at LSU, now he is a god.

 

[Bubba]

Bama HATED Saban when he was at FL, now he is a god.

You mean LSU?

 

[phork]

SEC fans are idiots, what can you say. A couple of years in the NFL washed the LSU stink off apparently.

 

[wahoo]

I can't see this happening. Meyer wouldn't be able to recruit at ND like he can at Florida because of the acedemic restrictions. Why would ND hire him after he already turned them down?

 

[SoCalDomer]

The ironic thing about Meyer is in his autobiography, he calls ND his "dream job" and says it was his young family who impacted his decision to go to Florida.

I can understand that to a degree. At Florida, you don't have to travel much for recruiting or games. At ND, you do; you will be away from the family.

Meanwhile out on the recruiting trail, he tells ND commits and recruits all sorts of lies about ND, lies about the coaching staff, and tells them it's not right for them.

 

[Dacian_Irish]

Why would anyone want a guy who didn't come here because he didn't think Notre Dame can win. Remember his early success was because of Zooks recruiting.

 

[goldandblue]

All coaches do the same thing. You don't think Charlie and Co didn't tell Shaq Evans that USC was not the right fit for him???? Just becuase he has nabbed a few players that were committed to us and passed on the job to coach here everybody hates him. If he can have success at Notre Dame like he has at Utah and Florida then by all means if Charlie doesn't get things turned around hire his ass.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

And make no mistake... it still is Notre freakin' Dame -- the #1 coaching job in college football, period. Meyer could win 5 national championships in Gainesville... and UF will never be Notre Dame, ever.

Best line in the article...

 

[SoCalDomer]

All coaches do the same thing. You don't think Charlie and Co didn't tell Shaq Evans that USC was not the right fit for him???? Just becuase he has nabbed a few players that were committed to us and passed on the job to coach here everybody hates him. If he can have success at Notre Dame like he has at Utah and Florida then by all means if Charlie doesn't get things turned around hire his ass.

on what do you base your statment that "all coaches do the same thing"? and on what basis do you lump Urban Meyer's recruiting tactics in with all other coaches. There are a handful of coaches who seem to get the majority of air time for negative or dirty recruiting tactics; Meyer is one of the top-5.

from what I've heard recruits say, CW doesn't negative recruit, ie. tear down other programs or lie about what is going on in other programs of interest to the recruit. I'm sure there are others as well, who don't utilize the many tactics we've read about Meyer.

 

[WaveDomer]

Okay, so there are 3 schools his wife can't veto. But apparently she can "talk" him out of those schools. Thought that was kind of funny.

It could happen. Meyer could be one of those cats that just can't stay put like Saban and Larry Brown.

 

[IrishAddiction]

I know u guys dont like him stealing recruits from us, just like other schools dont like us taking their recruits (KLM, Gary Gray, Marlon Pollard, just to put some in the last three recruiting classes) but this guy is an absolute genius. Lou Holtz product dont forget that, and turned around 3 Division one football programs. Im not saying FIRE CHARLIE FIRE CHARLIE but if we dont see results in 09 we should take the Urban route. Bowling Green, Utah, and now Flordia are all reaping the benefits of his genius. One of my HS football coaches was an all-mac at BG, and only played for Meyer his senior year, going from 3-8 to 8-3. Urban kicked him out of the first practice, and Chad Long had been a starter since his freshman year. He said he would do anything for Urban, run through a brick wall if Urban told him to. Thats motivation, and if Charlie doesnt turn it around in 09, i would actually want Urban to get the job.

 

[JeremyND07]

I will begin the burning of all my ND merchandise if this guy because the coach at notre dame! The Lier can stay in Flordia forever!

 

[Junkhead]

I guess I'd still watch. If it brings titles and bowl wins, I say bring him in. Damn, I feel dirty now. I hate myself.

 

[dre1919]

Urban Meyer being the next coach at Notre Dame? I'd only have one thing to say to that:

When can he start?

 

[tko]

I guess I'd still watch. If it brings titles and bowl wins, I say bring him in. Damn, I feel dirty now. I hate myself.

you need to go wash off in the shower like Crying Game now!!!!

 

[WaveDomer]

I hate to be the one to point out the big elephant in the room, but... most posters here love Lou Holtz. A great coach for ND who has a sketchy record of keeping programs off probation and clean. I'll probably get thrashed for this but whatever. I'm not saying I like Meyer, but all the Holtz lovers out there need to get real honest.

 

[SoCalDomer]

you raise an interesting point wave, but, the probation ND got under Lou was because of a booster. To me, that seems different from having 10 players on your roster arrested and dirty recruiting (Meyer). The problems at Arkansas and SoCarolina were different than a booster giving inappropriate gifts to players; arkansas and So Carolina had to do with academics, which is usually not under the head coach's responsiblity.

I am not saying Lou was responsible for what happened, I am not saying he wasn't. But my understanding of Lou's situations at Arkansas, ND and SoCarolina are very dissimilar to the dirtyness associated with Meyer.

I could be wrong, but without you explaining why you think they are similar, i have nothing to weigh your argument with.

 

[WaveDomer]

I could be wrong, but without you explaining why you think they are similar, i have nothing to weigh your argument with.

Minnesota got put on probation after Holtz left too. He gave money to a player to take a course to remain eligible and money to a recruit who lost his wallet. There are certainly a ton of other allegations against Holtz when he was at ND (roids, easy grading, not paying attention to injury etc.) A lot of these are disputed by players etc. Holtz is a coach who has left a lot of messed up programs in his wake. That is undeniable. I'm not saying what he's done is on the same level as Meyer, or vice versa. But to my knowledge, maybe I'm wrong, Meyer hasn't gotten a school on probation. And honestly, this is pure speculation on my part, so take it for what it is, I think Holtz was pushed out at ND for these reasons.

Again, all that is proven is what happened with MN, ND, and USC. Everything else is he said she said type stuff. But there is a lot of smoke that follows Holtz around. My main point is that before jumping on Meyer, people should take a look in our own backyard.

 

[SoCalDomer]

I agree about looking into it first before making determinations. A few years ago I looked into the Holtz "issues" as much as I could. I agree, there is a long trail of smoke, but that isn't surprising considering the length of his career.

I think absent serious, public violations, we've seen the end of NCAA sanctions against the big time programs.

Look at the lack of action on Bush and USC. regardless of whether USC had any real knowledge, Bush's public civil case and the investigation by Yahoo has turned up more than enough info for the NCAA to make a determination on Bush.

So, that could explain why the CFB darlings will never have their programs put on probation or sanctioned in the modern era. It seems the smaller programs are the only ones getting in trouble these days.

 

[PADOMERNUT]

WELCOME HOME URBAN!!!!



only joking.....

 

[WaveDomer]

I think absent serious, public violations, we've seen the end of NCAA sanctions against the big time programs.

Yes. I think unless you see a serious 1919 World Series type violation of public trust, there will be no changes. There is too much money involved and the viewing public is willing to trade off the lack of education for the entertainment on Saturday. A few years ago I saw ESPN talking about how some schools "use" college players. I was laughing for the entire half hour. Like ESPN isn't part of the problem. Why don't you go and televise some more high school games. You may even need a bigger violation than the Black Sox scandal, because the steroid scandal didn't do much in baseball and the betting refs didn't do much in the NBA.

 

[ARALOU]

I never heard about the roid thing. I guess I can believe it. (or maybe see it) I had heard many different reasons he left. I posted them in another thread so I wont repeat it. I know one thing. He was a GREAT motivator and knew intimidation was part of the game.

 

[ARALOU]

By the way I am not an Urban fan but winning impresses the hell out of me.

 

[Golden_Domer88]

Would you take:

Nice and loyal coach who would never have any probation problems but cant win in the big games or even win a bowl game.

OR

A "snake" or "liar" who some dont like but can take a program and win the NC the next year. Who can compete and COACH in college football?

Ill take Urban any day over Weis. This isnt church people. Its football and we need a proven winning college football coach.

 

[IrishAddiction]

By the way I am not an Urban fan but winning impresses the hell out of me.

Amen to that. Not that im a huge fan of Urban right now either, but if he came to ND and turned the program into what it should be, everyone would be a fan of the guy. I think he has amazing football IQ and shows he can consistently beat tough opponents, but his recruiting tactics are a little dirty....but thats the name of the game in todays recruiting. We poach, he poaches, we have great recruiting classes, and so does he.... strange.