ESPN Reporting: Charlie in Jeopardy

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  • Charlie news conference Tuesday. He will resume play calling.
  • If ND loses to Navy, his head may role.

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Probably some moron from ESPN stating his opinion. No one from the University has come out and said for sure he has to beat Navy to save his job. That is all speculation.
 

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Just saw an ESPN report about CW comparing his record to Ty and BD. They indicated that he should be in trouble. Problem I have with the comparison is that Holtz built up the program. ND scheduling and standards got ridiculous and Davie (and no human) could hang, and Ty let it drop a bit more. CW trying like a mofo to build back up.

Geez. Talk about an apple / orange comparison...

Whole world going crazy on ND because they stunk it up last week.

They simply lost to a bigger, faster, stronger, meaner team that was aided by officiating that chose to choke ND early.

And JC looked injured from the start.

Not defending the shitty performance, but that is what I noticed.
 
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Someone on ESPN saying he SHOULD be in trouble doesnt mean a whole lot

I agree with you that the whole world is going crazy...
 
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Just saw an ESPN report about CW comparing his record to Ty and BD. They indicated that he should be in trouble. Problem I have with the comparison is that Holtz built up the program. ND scheduling and standards got ridiculous and Davie (and no human) could hang, and Ty let it drop a bit more. CW trying like a mofo to build back up.

Geez. Talk about an apple / orange comparison...

Whole world going crazy on ND because they stunk it up last week.

They simply lost to a bigger, faster, stronger, meaner team that was aided by officiating that chose to choke ND early.

And JC looked injured from the start.


Not defending the shitty performance, but that is what I noticed.

Yeah, but you gotta look at the trajectory. 5 wins vs 3 wins over shitty teams is macht nichts. It's not a basis for ascribing improvement. (Getting shut out by) BC is a legitimate basis for ascribing on-going mediocrity.

ND is on a negative gradient. It's Ty-as-in-Goodbye Time. Maybe not now, or the end of the season. But Charlies's going to leave without bringing ND back.

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P.S. I'm sorry to say that. But football is a Darwinian enterprise.
 

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Yeah, but you gotta look at the trajectory. 5 wins vs 3 wins over shitty teams is macht nichts. It's not a basis for ascribing improvement. (Getting shut out by) BC is a legitimate basis for ascribing on-going mediocrity.

ND is on a negative gradient. It's Ty-as-in-Goodbye Time. Maybe not now, or the end of the season. But Charlies's going to leave without bringing ND back.

SteveM

P.S. I'm sorry to say that. But football is a Darwinian enterprise.



I am sorry but I have no idea what you just said.
 

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I just saw it and i think it said some source out of Chicago... maybe a newspaper...???
 

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I just watched this on ESPN too.. I think it is all speculation.


Charlie may be on the hot seat, but i dont think this is a make or break game. Is there any news on jimmy clausen and whether he is injured?
 

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I dont want to add fuel to the fire, b/c this is ALL specualtion, but....

I work with a guy who is a member at the Penn State Scout site, and there is a thread on there where the moderators are discussing a rumor where ND is trying to come up with an exit strategy for Weis. Basically they are saying boosters are calling our AD and demanding something be done. The rumor is that Weis is going to step down and use his knee and leg as an excuse, saying he has to take care of that and step aside. That way the University is spared any PR mess.


With that being said, I want to make it clear that I DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF THIS IS TRUE. It is a Penn State site and I do not think they have any credible information that we dont.

But in support of full disclosure, I thought I would share it with all of you.
 

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edit: Forget it.


Oh hell, here we go.

Can we stop with the speculation?

He's on the hot seat. That's enough.
 
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Some rogue writer trying to stir the pot even more! I believe that Charlie will step up and get more involved as stated, add a few necessary "wrinkles" this w/e and get an anemic offense going in the right direction again.
 

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I agree, as I said in my post I dont believe it, I was just passing on news that was sent to me.
 

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He should be on the hot seat but lets let him finish out the season and see how recruiting will be. I always knew he won to quickly. Also we thought that next year would be the good year.
 

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He should be on the hot seat but lets let him finish out the season and see how recruiting will be. I always knew he won to quickly. Also we thought that next year would be the good year.

As well as some progression this year. You would expect the worse to be behind ND and them turning into a good team by now.
 

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Quick point (pun intended) - look at the point total of this team compared to last year. See any improvement? I do. They had a bad game. Forced me to chase and catch a greyhound puppy and punch its nose. Mr. "GoIrish!!!" had a nice night with his wife and ate some delicious pastrami. Then he farted. That's how bad our reaction was.

(Did anyone hear about the 2 LSU fans who got shot by the Bama fan after the game following an argument about the team? I am digressing... Damn ADHD)

But this team still scoring points. They have improved.

I am still on CDubs side, Eff the rest. But goes to show how much ND means to people when a nasty loss earns so much attention. Also serves as a wake up call to any ND athlete who thinks he is a premadonna and can cruise after a 14 point lead.

And Sureal, have I welcomed you back to the dark side, my prodigal son?
 
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What Neut said. I agree completely. I am not ready to start from scratch again with a coach that comes fifth from a list of five. Remember when we did not know if anyone wanted the job? Wies has signed on for ten years. Give him at least four. i can remember when four years was the minimum. Geez what has this world come to. For the record I disagreed with Ty's firing at that time. But i know they thought Urban would take it, look how that turned out for us.
 

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The more I think about my post earlier, with info coming from a Penn State site, the more it pisses me the hell off!!!

Who the hell are they to talk about us? Dont they have their own coach to worry about? Is he alive????

Charlie is our coach and I am going to support him. The hell with everyone else.....

Sorry I just got a little heated
 

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The more I think about my post earlier, with info coming from a Penn State site, the more it pisses me the hell off!!!

Who the hell are they to talk about us? Dont they have their own coach to worry about? Is he alive????

Charlie is our coach and I am going to support him. The hell with everyone else.....

Sorry I just got a little heated


Salright, I had a little comment about knoxville in a thread yesterday. This too, was out of frustration.
 

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The more I think about my post earlier, with info coming from a Penn State site, the more it pisses me the hell off!!!

Who the hell are they to talk about us? Dont they have their own coach to worry about? Is he alive????

Charlie is our coach and I am going to support him. The hell with everyone else.....

Sorry I just got a little heated

Mmmkay... Classic meltdown. Hilarious. I'm assuming you were all types of calm typing your previous post in regards to this matter...
 

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I am sorry but I have no idea what you just said.

Still laughing 10 minutes after I read this. Good thing I have some time off.

macht nichts. Essentially, 5-4 AINT SHIT.

I agree completely with SteveM's post, but willing (as an extremely unimportant fan) to give CDub a few more years, unless team looks as bad as this past weekend one more time...
 

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The more I think about my post earlier, with info coming from a Penn State site, the more it pisses me the hell off!!!
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Sorry I just got a little heated

Ever tried to chase a greyhound pup? They quick. Popped the babe in the nose.

And I heard Mr. "GoIrish!!!" fart.
 
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Quick point (pun intended) - look at the point total of this team compared to last year. See any improvement? I do. They had a bad game. Forced me to chase and catch a greyhound puppy and punch its nose. Mr. "GoIrish!!!" had a nice night with his wife and ate some delicious pastrami. Then he farted. That's how bad our reaction was.

(Did anyone hear about the 2 LSU fans who got shot by the Bama fan after the game following an argument about the team? I am digressing... Damn ADHD)

But this team still scoring points. They have improved.

I am still on CDubs side, Eff the rest. But goes to show how much ND means to people when a nasty loss earns so much attention. Also serves as a wake up call to any ND athlete who thinks he is a premadonna and can cruise after a 14 point lead.

And Sureal, have I welcomed you back to the dark side, my prodigal son?

I can be swayed back to the other side with a solid performance this weekend. Right now they are in my doghouse (like it matters...LOL). This team is going to be the death of me I tell ya.... Love ND but damn get it together already...
 

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I can be swayed back to the other side with a solid performance this weekend. Right now they are in my doghouse (like it matters...LOL). This team is going to be the death of me I tell ya.... Love ND but damn get it together already...

Doghouse? You have a DOGHOUSE? Any puppies?
 
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