Trump Presidency Round 2

[GATTACA!]

They must not be surveying anyone from IE.

 

[Fbolt]

He isn't crushing it with me. I'd probably be around 50%.

 

[drayer54]

So reopen the bases? We have full military authority to do whatever we want on the island. It's never been about defense. You'd know that if you didn't have gullible written across your forehead.

Weird. Why did we have to ask? Why do we need a deal?

 

[calvegas04]

He is announcing victory tonight?

If so nothing like a half done job

 

[IrishinSyria]

How do you take this sort of stuff or people like this seriously? This isn't political debate. It's not adults being adults. This is exactly the sort of childish, goofy, stupid stuff we used to do in 5th grade. This is so silly and immature that I thought it was fake until I Googled it and confirmed it's real. This is a child having a tantrum, not an intelligent adult criticizing someone's politics.

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you're getting your panties in a bunch over this when the white house official twitter account is an AI meme generator? Like, sorry John Lithgow's not presenting the Serious Case Against Trump but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist when he's fucking up on just about every front.

 

[drayer54]

you're getting your panties in a bunch over this when the white house official twitter account is an AI meme generator? Like, sorry John Lithgow's not presenting the Serious Case Against Trump but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist when he's fucking up on just about every front.

Personally, I prefer it when the Hollywood insane libs are completely out of touch with reality. It would be far worse if they were accurate or appealing to people who don’t buy tabloids. The MSNBC crowds will always think there’s this case, but it is what it is.

He is announcing victory tonight?

If so nothing like a half done job

The Navy has been sunk, Air Force flattened, air defenses flattened, leadership killed, 13k targets destroyed, IRGC in chaos, and their ability to make war has been seriously destroyed. I’m glad this administration made the decision to prevent a nuclear Iran and make the region and world a safer place. No matter what he says- the political left will attack it. Schumer can’t answer whether or not Iranian infrastructure being destroyed is a good thing. It’s going to be too long or too short or half done. The stated objectives appear to be met, the two issues are the Strait of Hormuz and the uranium stockpile.I still expect a ground operation to recover that uranium to occur. Would be surprised if we don’t see something there. They appear to be getting help and looking for a stand down solution on the Strait of Hormuz. Not sure I agree with the “half done” claim. They appear to be very close to a finale. The media and allies in the democratic party is going to portray anything Trump does as a failure, but if we can stabilize Iran- it’s a huge win.

 

[calvegas04]

Personally, I prefer it when the Hollywood insane libs are completely out of touch with reality. It would be far worse if they were accurate or appealing to people who don’t buy tabloids. The MSNBC crowds will always think there’s this case, but it is what it is.


The Navy has been sunk, Air Force flattened, air defenses flattened, leadership killed, 13k targets destroyed, IRGC in chaos, and their ability to make war has been seriously destroyed. I’m glad this administration made the decision to prevent a nuclear Iran and make the region and world a safer place. No matter what he says- the political left will attack it. Schumer can’t answer whether or not Iranian infrastructure being destroyed is a good thing. It’s going to be too long or too short or half done. The stated objectives appear to be met, the two issues are the Strait of Hormuz and the uranium stockpile.I still expect a ground operation to recover that uranium to occur. Would be surprised if we don’t see something there. They appear to be getting help and looking for a stand down solution on the Strait of Hormuz. Not sure I agree with the “half done” claim. They appear to be very close to a finale. The media and allies in the democratic party is going to portray anything Trump does as a failure, but if we can stabilize Iran- it’s a huge win.

A lot of that sounds like we may have another power vacuum in the middle east. Seems we have moved away from regime change and more towards we blew up most of their military.

 

[drayer54]

A lot of that sounds like we may have another power vacuum in the middle east. Seems we have moved away from regime change and more towards we blew up most of their military.

Well, the Ayotollah and his closest 40 friends are dead. You can keep playing whack-a-mole until you get one you like. We can't make the people rise against the IRGC and we don't want to set up camp. We can bomb the shit out of them.

 

[LifelongFan]

I’m active duty retard

Lmfao have fun

 

[LifelongFan]

He is announcing victory tonight?

If so nothing like a half done job

There was no plan besides mass death in Iran. The strait won't open, oil prices are fucked, and there is no regime change. Hilariously bad war. Too bad for the civilians who died that the US elected a blackmailed pedophile with dementia.

 

[drayer54]

There was no plan besides mass death in Iran. The strait won't open, oil prices are fucked, and there is no regime change. Hilariously bad war. Too bad for the civilians who died that the US elected a blackmailed pedophile with dementia.

Unbelievably ignorant and sticking your face in the sand. Centcom has laid out the strategy quite clearly and well throughout. Just like the well-executed Venezuela plan, they moved in phases to clear objectives and strike their targets. Impressive stats and lots of significant accomplishments in this fight, which those people paying attention can see.

 

[Fbolt]

Why bother? Laughs at Vets. Thinks everyone is a retard. Full-bore TDS.

Clearly microwaved a Hot Pocket recently with the energy he's expending.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[IrishinSyria]

Unbelievably ignorant and sticking your face in the sand. Centcom has laid out the strategy quite clearly and well throughout. Just like the well-executed Venezuela plan, they moved in phases to clear objectives and strike their targets. Impressive stats and lots of significant accomplishments in this fight, which those people paying attention can see.

Tactical dominance, unquestionably.

Strategic wins...to be determined.

With the caveat that there are already major strategic/political consequences to this war that will be hard to justify absence the spontaneous emergence of a peace loving democracy in Iran. To name a few, the strikes on Ras Laffan in Qatar are going to meaningfully reduce global LNG supply for several years. Maybe we don't care because LNG markets are more local than other energy markets and the U.S. has plenty for domestic purposes, but it's really going to fuck over some of our allies in South Central and South East asia.

Similarly, we're going through high end weapons at way faster than replacement rates and pulling troops and interceptors from south east asia in a way that's going to materially weaken our ability to deter China (to say nothing of giving up any pretense that superpowers have any legal restraints to invading whoever they want).

Now we're bombing random civilian infrastructure in Iran, seemingly out of spite. Does not exactly project any sort of affirmative vision of strength.

 

[Bantry19]

One day we’re “liberating the people of Iran.”

The next day, we’re bombing them back to the Stone Age.

 

[TorontoGold]

One day we’re “liberating the people of Iran.”

The next day, we’re bombing them back to the Stone Age.

This is tactical war plans that you simply don’t have access to. You need to trust the inner machinations of the dementia riddled old man who dances with swords. The alcoholic Fox News host is one of the finest military minds of this generation. He’s so open he lets people inside the group chat, and lets a common man like his broker know what’s up. Truly a gigachad leader of tactical war fighters carrying out critical missions not seen since Call of duty black ops 3.

 

[LifelongFan]

Why bother? Laughs at Vets. Thinks everyone is a retard. Full-bore TDS.

Clearly microwaved a Hot Pocket recently with the energy he's expending.

Laugh at people who are happy to die for Israel. If idiots want to fight a war for a pedophile and his alcoholic warrior, go ahead. They already fucked this up and hopefully it ends soon. All they did was give Iran more power.

 

[drayer54]

Tactical dominance, unquestionably.

Strategic wins...to be determined.

With the caveat that there are already major strategic/political consequences to this war that will be hard to justify absence the spontaneous emergence of a peace loving democracy in Iran. To name a few, the strikes on Ras Laffan in Qatar are going to meaningfully reduce global LNG supply for several years. Maybe we don't care because LNG markets are more local than other energy markets and the U.S. has plenty for domestic purposes, but it's really going to fuck over some of our allies in South Central and South East asia.

Similarly, we're going through high end weapons at way faster than replacement rates and pulling troops and interceptors from south east asia in a way that's going to materially weaken our ability to deter China (to say nothing of giving up any pretense that superpowers have any legal restraints to invading whoever they want).

Now we're bombing random civilian infrastructure in Iran, seemingly out of spite. Does not exactly project any sort of affirmative vision of strength.

Looks like we’re trying to bully them into a deal to cave with the bridge bombing. A signal of infrastructure bombing to come and escalation to get a ceasefire. Natural gas prices haven’t been rocked. We’ll see how it goes for Asia. Prob benefits us if anything. The weapons concern me. The lack of preparation for drones concerns me. Looks like we had some lessons learned in this one. Looks like we had some serious wins as well over Chinese tech. The intelligence dominance also looks like it was incredible.

 

[GowerND11]

Yeah… seems more and more like “Mission Accomplished 2.0” except without a meaningful downfall of the government. Mostly due to the structures in place to prevent that from happening in Iran.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Laugh at people who are happy to die for Israel. If idiots want to fight a war for a pedophile and his alcoholic warrior, go ahead. They already fucked this up and hopefully it ends soon. All they did was give Iran more power.

Completely laughable to insinuate that this war gave Iran more power. That they have temporarily closed the strait is not new power that they have gained, it is power that they have always inherently had that they are now exercising, just as Panama and Egypt have the inherent ability to close their canals.

If anything, this war has emboldened the Abraham Accords axis against Iran, and the bombing campaigns into Iran have shown once again that their IADS have no clothes, and the Israeli or American airforce can delete the leader of Iran at will.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Tactical dominance, unquestionably.

Strategic wins...to be determined.

With the caveat that there are already major strategic/political consequences to this war that will be hard to justify absence the spontaneous emergence of a peace loving democracy in Iran. To name a few, the strikes on Ras Laffan in Qatar are going to meaningfully reduce global LNG supply for several years. Maybe we don't care because LNG markets are more local than other energy markets and the U.S. has plenty for domestic purposes, but it's really going to fuck over some of our allies in South Central and South East asia.

Similarly, we're going through high end weapons at way faster than replacement rates and pulling troops and interceptors from south east asia in a way that's going to materially weaken our ability to deter China (to say nothing of giving up any pretense that superpowers have any legal restraints to invading whoever they want).

Now we're bombing random civilian infrastructure in Iran, seemingly out of spite. Does not exactly project any sort of affirmative vision of strength.

I don’t think we had a goal of a peace loving democracy emerging from the ashes in the same way we did in Iraq. I think strategically we are pretty indifferent between whether protestors rise up or a new regime stooge who doesn’t want to get killed from 40 thousand feet overhead and wants to come to the table comes to power. That being said, more could be going on behind the scenes that we don’t know.

I do agree that haphazard targeting of civilian infrastructure is bad and counter productive, but I would question whether or not the reports coming out of Iran are factual.

 

[IrishinSyria]

If this is true, and (bias alert) it tracks very closely to what I’ve been saying since day 1, we are ruled by the dumbest people in the world (which is also something that aligns with my priors).

Inside Trump's Search for a Way Out of the Iran War

Facing political backlash, global economic shock, and the looming midterms, the President still doesn't want to get out of Iran without declaring victory.

time.com

 

[NDVirginia19]

If this is true, and (bias alert) it tracks very closely to what I’ve been saying since day 1, we are ruled by the dumbest people in the world (which is also something that aligns with my priors).

Inside Trump's Search for a Way Out of the Iran War

Facing political backlash, global economic shock, and the looming midterms, the President still doesn't want to get out of Iran without declaring victory.

time.com

I don’t think that they were making that unfair of an assumption. I think strikes into Israel were expected, as well as strikes into US bases in Iraq, Syria, and Jordan, as Iran has previously done. I think it is pretty surprising that they not only struck US bases in Qatar, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia, but that they also struck civilian infrastructure in those countries.

 

[IrishinSyria]

I don’t think that they were making that unfair of an assumption. I think strikes into Israel were expected, as well as strikes into US bases in Iraq, Syria, and Jordan, as Iran has previously done. I think it is pretty surprising that they not only struck US bases in Qatar, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia, but that they also struck civilian infrastructure in those countries.

I mean, we opened our campaign by bombing their Supreme Leader and his family. Kind of a categorically different conflict.

 

[drayer54]

Completely laughable to insinuate that this war gave Iran more power. That they have temporarily closed the strait is not new power that they have gained, it is power that they have always inherently had that they are now exercising, just as Panama and Egypt have the inherent ability to close their canals.

If anything, this war has emboldened the Abraham Accords axis against Iran, and the bombing campaigns into Iran have shown once again that their IADS have no clothes, and the Israeli or American airforce can delete the leader of Iran at will.

Lifelong probably thinks Iran is going to come out of this a strong naval and air power.

I don’t think we had a goal of a peace loving democracy emerging from the ashes in the same way we did in Iraq. I think strategically we are pretty indifferent between whether protestors rise up or a new regime stooge who doesn’t want to get killed from 40 thousand feet overhead and wants to come to the table comes to power. That being said, more could be going on behind the scenes that we don’t know.

I do agree that haphazard targeting of civilian infrastructure is bad and counter productive, but I would question whether or not the reports coming out of Iran are factual.

Iran is not Iraq. The simple minded may want banner politics and Mission Accomplished comparisons and twenty year fear slogans, but the two are very different scenarios.

 

[ozzman]

Fitting cover

 

[GATTACA!]

 

[drayer54]

Kudos to Trump. Rubio, Bessent, Others have been slam dunks. Noem and Bondi were not. He fixed it. He didn't do what Biden did and leave complete duds in place for four years, without ever having cabinet meetings.

Did you figure out why we had to ask Greenland for them bases yet, Mr. Gullible?

 

[GATTACA!]

Kudos to Trump. Rubio, Bessent, Others have been slam dunks. Noem and Bondi were not. He fixed it. He didn't do what Biden did and leave complete duds in place for four years, without ever having cabinet meetings.

Did you figure out why we had to ask Greenland for them bases yet, Mr. Gullible?

Do you think we can just show up with building materials and start throwing together a base? Lol

What was their answer?

 

[Bantry19]

“With a little more time, we can easily OPEN THE HORMUZ STRAIT, TAKE THE OIL, & MAKE A FORTUNE. IT WOULD BE A ‘GUSHER’ FOR THE WORLD???”

Good Lord.