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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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He's so scared of DeSantis.
Firstly that nickname, DeSanctimonious sucks. SAD!

Second if his endorsement was so valuable why did basically everyone he endorsed lose Wednesday other than Vance?
 

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Arizona saying early next week is when they should have a final tally. That’s unacceptable. They should lose their right to administer elections.

You do know all the states are still counting votes right? It’s just that in Arizona, Colorado and Nevada the margins are so thin, they can’t declare a winner. Please tell me you know this.
 

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You do know all the states are still counting votes right? It’s just that in Arizona, Colorado and Nevada the margins are so thin, they can’t declare a winner. Please tell me you know this.
CA House races have 60% of the votes counted. Florida declared a winner in 62 minutes.
DeSantis>> Newsom
 

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One of the best things about this election is that Kevin McCarthy will likely be the GOP Speaker. That means the odds of his political career being over have gone through the roof!
 

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Sharpton Compares Stacey Abrams to Moses

 

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One of the best things about this election is that Kevin McCarthy will likely be the GOP Speaker. That means the odds of his political career being over have gone through the roof!
Read an article last night that says it could be a struggle to get that position.
 

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One of the best things about this election is that Kevin McCarthy will likely be the GOP Speaker. That means the odds of his political career being over have gone through the roof!
Boehner and Ryan can confirm.
 

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The eight candidates Ted Cruz was stumping for on his bus tour all lost.

Ted Cruz was in Georgia yesterday supporting Herschel Walker.

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Read an article last night that says it could be a struggle to get that position.
I gotta wonder why anyone would want it.

If they win (which is suprising in and of itself) it looks like the GOP House will right out of the gate insist on cutting social security and Medicare using the debt ceiling as leverage. Then follow that up with hearings about Hunter Bidens laptop or something equally vapid instead of working on real legislative solutions to anything.

If so, they are gonna give the Democrats a ton of free ammunition going into the next cycle. Kind of like they did this cycle with abortion, election fraud, the trans menace, blah, blah, blah.
 

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Mark Kelly wins in Arizona.
Another race where candidate quality mattered. Kelly isn't even super popular, but he went up against a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign and it made it easier to hide his voting record and be more appealing to swing-voters. Would've been a flip if Doug Ducey ran, but noooo. The orange dumbass had to make it his mission to make Ducey unelectable going forward because he had the temerity to not spew garbage about dominion voting machines.
 

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Mark Kelly wins in Arizona.
Until a pack of election-counting cowboys on horses clear the desert with all ballots counted by hand in a schooner arrives to the people who operate the internet button sometime in December, it cannot be official.

On a separate note, the fall of a democrat mega donor running FTX is insane. Looks like this will end in some punishment from the same administration for which he shelled out huge donations.
 

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That wasn't the point of the post you quoted.

That said, state laws are state laws...

Sure laws are laws, but that doesn't mean they fit today. As an example......There's an antiquated law still on the books in a state that says someone must walk ahead of a car holding a lantern so as not to frighten the horses. Written a long time ago, but still a law.

There's no real good reason they shouldn't have votes counted in a timely manner. The longer it takes, the more questions get raised.
 

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I gotta wonder why anyone would want it.

If they win (which is suprising in and of itself) it looks like the GOP House will right out of the gate insist on cutting social security and Medicare using the debt ceiling as leverage. Then follow that up with hearings about Hunter Bidens laptop or something equally vapid instead of working on real legislative solutions to anything.

If so, they are gonna give the Democrats a ton of free ammunition going into the next cycle. Kind of like they did this cycle with abortion, election fraud, the trans menace, blah, blah, blah.
No they won't. SS won't get touched. What never gets reported is that when the GOP talks about doing away with SS, they are talking about replacing it with a better model. I've mentioned before that talk about SS going under has been going on since at least the 70's, yet it's still here.
 

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No they won't. SS won't get touched. What never gets reported is that when the GOP talks about doing away with SS, they are talking about replacing it with a better model. I've mentioned before that talk about SS going under has been going on since at least the 70's, yet it's still here.


What is a better model?
 

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Sure laws are laws, but that doesn't mean they fit today. As an example......There's an antiquated law still on the books in a state that says someone must walk ahead of a car holding a lantern so as not to frighten the horses. Written a long time ago, but still a law.

There's no real good reason they shouldn't have votes counted in a timely manner. The longer it takes, the more questions get raised.
C'mon, you know that's a bad take. Arizona updates their election laws regularly (including this year). They make deliberate choices, most based around "election integrity".

Legislators may have passed bad laws, but in a tight race everyone is going to hold off making a call. There are still 4 (or 3 since some have called AZ) Senate races uncalled, 4 Gov races, and 20 house races. Every state is still counting votes.
 

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What is a better model?
One I can think of is for each citizen to have more influence in their own earnings and what they receive when they decide to collect. Set a minimum that every citizen would receive regardless. Then each citizen gets to use their contributions like an investment account where they can grow it, yet with some protection and they can't receive it until they hit 65 like today.

Someone could probably poke holes in that, but that's just a framework and details would have to be hashed out.
 

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C'mon, you know that's a bad take. Arizona updates their election laws regularly (including this year). They make deliberate choices, most based around "election integrity".

Legislators may have passed bad laws, but in a tight race everyone is going to hold off making a call. There are still 4 (or 3 since some have called AZ) Senate races uncalled, 4 Gov races, and 20 house races. Every state is still counting votes.
Sure it's a bad take. I knew it when I said it, but it's an example. Updating election laws annually may or may not be good. I'm all for getting the votes counted correctly, regardless if it's a tight race or a blowout. Tell me why states, not just AZ can't have votes counted within a couple of days?
 

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One I can think of is for each citizen to have more influence in their own earnings and what they receive when they decide to collect. Set a minimum that every citizen would receive regardless. Then each citizen gets to use their contributions like an investment account where they can grow it, yet with some protection and they can't receive it until they hit 65 like today.

Someone could probably poke holes in that, but that's just a framework and details would have to be hashed out.
This would collapse the system almost instantly. The people that rely most on SS will be the most aggressive on pulling out the max allowable as soon as they can. Those that don't need the money will take out their amounts and move it into their private investments. The pooled security of SS will be negated when everything gets sucked out.

Kind of like expanding the ability of people to get loans with payday loans and other high interest loan types. Can be marketed as empowering people to take their investments into their own hands, but many lack the ability to make sound choices.
 

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Sure it's a bad take. I knew it when I said it, but it's an example. Updating election laws annually may or may not be good. I'm all for getting the votes counted correctly, regardless if it's a tight race or a blowout. Tell me why states, not just AZ can't have votes counted within a couple of days?
Election day ballot drop offs and late mail in voting.
 

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As I did two years ago, I tested that theory this election. I had 11 people send me a picture of their ballot envelope. I then wrote their name in my handwriting. Each voter than copied my version of their signature onto their ballot return envelope. They sent me a picture to ensure it wasn’t their normal handwriting. This simulated signing someone else’s ballot. It’s also legal because each voter signed his or her own ballot.

If signature verification worked, all 11 of those ballots should have been set aside for mismatched signatures. Instead, six were accepted. That’s a greater than 50 percent chance of being accepted. When I did this experiment in 2020 with nine voters, eight had their ballots accepted. That was an almost 90 percent acceptance rate.

These sample sizes are too small to say definitively that things have gotten better. Let’s hope they have. But either way, one thing is obvious: Signature verification isn’t the fail-safe security measure election officials claim it is.
 

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No they won't. SS won't get touched. What never gets reported is that when the GOP talks about doing away with SS, they are talking about replacing it with a better model. I've mentioned before that talk about SS going under has been going on since at least the 70's, yet it's still here.
Uh yeah. That’s the exact rationale we heard prior to January 6th and Roe being overturned. They’re crazy but not that crazy, right?

Unfortunately, the current players in the House GOP seem intent on being the proverbial dog that catches the car. The current GOP players in the house have stated very clearly that if they take the house they would use the debt ceiling process as leverage to attempt to cut social security and Medicaid. That’s a page right out of the house GOP playbook during the Obama admin. The GOP caucus is even nuttier at this point so saying “no they won’t” in terms of attempting such a stupid stunt with any level of certainty seems pretty misguided. Will they succeed? Doubt it. Which is maybe the point you were making.

Personally I hope they try to use this in that it would place an anchor around the neck of all GOP candidates running on a national level.
 
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This would collapse the system almost instantly. The people that rely most on SS will be the most aggressive on pulling out the max allowable as soon as they can. Those that don't need the money will take out their amounts and move it into their private investments. The pooled security of SS will be negated when everything gets sucked out.

Kind of like expanding the ability of people to get loans with payday loans and other high interest loan types. Can be marketed as empowering people to take their investments into their own hands, but many lack the ability to make sound choices.
Put it all in crypto! What could go wrong?
 

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Al Sharpton was better when he was fat and wore an Adidas jogging suit.
 

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There is still a path for Dems to keep the House though unlikely the R lead will be very small.

Nevada is likely Blue. Arizona blue making GA runoff less impactful.

Biden had the best first term midterm in almost a century.

GenZ showed up #Roevember. I bet GOP starts trying to make college voting harder and raise the voting age lmao.
 
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