Air Force Gameday Thread [Sat. Nov, 10 2007]

[Timugen]

I'm trying real hard to stay on Charlie's side... but the Zook point was excellent... how are other teams winning 5-7 games with less than our type of talent and we can't beat Navy and are losing to Air Force, being out played by both completely.

I was willing to give CW a pass for a five win season which I thought was the worst it could get at the start of the season... this is the worst D-1 team I can ever remember watching

Something that those of us dubbed as [NAME REDACTED]-haters have been saying for weeks, but every time it's been met with accusations of being a Negative Nancy or a litany of ridiculous excuses.

I was one of [NAME REDACTED]'s biggest defenders on many blogs/msg boards at the beginning of this season, but when you see the same ineptitude week after week after week it's rather difficult to expect much different the following Saturday.

 

[ACamp1900]

Something that those of us dubbed as [NAME REDACTED]-haters have been saying for weeks, but every time it's been met with accusations of being a Negative Nancy or a litany of ridiculous excuses.

I was one of [NAME REDACTED]'s biggest defenders on many blogs/msg boards at the beginning of this season, but when you see the same ineptitude week after week after week it's rather difficult to expect much different the following Saturday.

stop being so damn negative all the time....

 

[NDsuperfan09]

This is where Rick Minter actually was a defensive coordinator that helped us. Sorry but our defense is pathetic today.

 

[Timugen]

Timugen,
Are you watching the game?????? Have you seen the playcalling????????? Can you tell me that there is one ounce of creativity in this gameplan.

Yes I am watching the game, and I have to admit that I'm a little confused as to what your point is.

I've seen the playcalling (though I would put depth chart decisions as a very close 2nd as to why we're losing.)

And no, I haven't seen any creativity (though we really don't need that- we're playing against inferior athletes.)

 

[Junkhead]

And that was the worst defensive series of the entire nauseating season.

 

[IHaveHadEnough]

Guess what. Air Force is the better coached team. They are better. It really is that simple.

 

[goldenlid]

Okay I can see coaching at fault now. All of you guys are right ND is the only team that can't do anything right this year, but I will stay with this team.

 

[Timugen]

stop being so damn negative all the time....

Trust me, I truly wish I didn't have to be so <del>negative</del> realistic this year.

 

[ACamp1900]

I hate to beat up on the players also... but I have to vent what I have been feeling ALL YEAR... why is Allen still on the field... the kid at this point has zero explosion... zero vision... just put JA in there and keep him there... JA has earned it and so has Allen

 

[goldenlid]

When was the last time ND had someone that just dropped anyone on defense?

 

[NDsuperfan09]

god damnit Grimes Clausen made another perfect throw and Grimes dropped it. My lord nothing can go right.

 

[NDsuperfan09]

I have a good idea Charlie play Kamara, and Tatae instead of West and Grimes. Neither can get open, and neither can catch the ball.

 

[Junkhead]

At least there were only 2 screens on that drive.

 

[ACamp1900]

god damnit Grimes Clausen made another perfect throw and Grimes dropped it. My lord nothing can go right.

That's what is really killing me this year... even BAD teams get a lucky break or two a year and win a game they shouldn't... or have a run bust for a Td when it had no business doing so... or a DB fall on coverage and you get a gift TD pass... NOTHING has gone our way ALL YEAR... it's unreal, I keep waiting for that one play where we just get lucky... we can't even get that

 

[We_Are_ND]

wow, grimey blows........its little things like dropped first down passes that make a team look alot worse then it really is

 

[Junkhead]

why is Allen still on the field.... JA has earned it and so has Allen

WTF?

 

[IrishRamMan10]

is Duval hurt?

 

[goldenlid]

Who are the players on this team? Please list five.

 

[jonesman]

Where is KAMARA???????????? KAMARA??????????????????????? Now for those of you who tell me that Charlie can evaluate talent. Why are we not giving Hord and other WR's a chance. No let's just stick with the same no catching group.

 

[ACamp1900]

WTF?

JA has proven to be the better back... that much is obivious to this point

 

[IHaveHadEnough]

That's what is really killing me this year... even BAD teams get a lucky break or two a year and win a game they shouldn't... or have a run bust for a Td when it had no business doing so... or a DB fall on coverage and you get a gift TD pass... NOTHING has gone our way ALL YEAR... it's unreal, I keep waiting for that one play where we just get lucky... we can't even get that

What are you talking about? We just got a HUGE BREAK right before the half from the refs.

 

[We_Are_ND]

also clausen needs to learn when he throws the deep ball to give his reciever a chance to make a play. Throwing it 15 yards outta bounds doesn't even give a reciever a chance. What made quinn alot better then maybe he was at times is when he needed a chunk of yards he threw it deep but in bounds and gave his reciever a chance to jump and make a play.

 

[Timugen]

wow, grimey blows........its little things like dropped first down passes that make a team look alot worse then it really is

Ahem....we are as bad as we look.

 

[ACamp1900]

What are you talking about? We just got a HUGE BREAK right before the half from the refs.

I'm talking to that big play of offense that hasn't happened once all year with the exception of that one run by JA against MSU... and even that didn't go for a TD

 

[NDsuperfan09]

also clausen needs to learn when he throws the deep ball to give his reciever a chance to make a play. Throwing it 15 yards outta bounds doesn't even give a reciever a chance. What made quinn alot better then maybe he was at times is when he needed a chunk of yards he threw it deep but in bounds and gave his reciever a chance to jump and make a play.

He was throwing it away dude, at leats i hope he was. If he was smart play by him b/c go knows West and Grimes weren't going to get open.

 

[patman1868]

Where is KAMARA???????????? KAMARA??????????????????????? Now for those of you who tell me that Charlie can evaluate talent. Why are we not giving Hord and other WR's a chance. No let's just stick with the same no catching group.

something has to be wrong with kamara he has been part of the offense in every game this year. there has to be some type of reason why he is not out there.

 

[patman1868]

sullivan and olsen hurt

 

[Junkhead]

Draw play. Why is CW so in love with it?

 

[ACamp1900]

I scrapped King of Threads to give our boys a jolt.... I do believe I may have to scrap hister cat before the Duke game as well

 

[We_Are_ND]

3rd and 1....and the undersized out out-matched AF D stuffs us for a 3 yd loss....