Sharpley should get a shot to start at PU

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Well folks,
I will give my full game assesment later, but one thing stands extremely clear to me. Evan Sharpley should be given a chance to start next weeks game. He looks much more comfortable than Jimmy at this point. He throws with zip and seems to make the reads much quicker. JC needs some time to mature. Plus, he is not feeling the pressure and is holding the ball way too long. Jimmy has 4 years. Give Evan a shot to fully prove himself.
 

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I disagree, this season is a rebuilding year so lets rebuild. BQ started when he was a freshman and he took his lumps. JC is gaining crictical playing time that is needed to develop into a top line starter.
 

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I disagree, this season is a rebuilding year so lets rebuild. BQ started when he was a freshman and he took his lumps. JC is gaining crictical playing time that is needed to develop into a top line starter.

I agree totally, I have no idea why Coach Weis put Sharpley in at the end of the game. He just needs to start calling a normal game and quit trying to shelter JC
 

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Well folks,
I will give my full game assesment later, but one thing stands extremely clear to me. Evan Sharpley should be given a chance to start next weeks game. He looks much more comfortable than Jimmy at this point. He throws with zip and seems to make the reads much quicker. JC needs some time to mature. Plus, he is not feeling the pressure and is holding the ball way too long. Jimmy has 4 years. Give Evan a shot to fully prove himself.


I disagree Clausen is QB for ND and the best classroom for him is the field
 

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I think clausen should start, but, we gotta get a win and maybe sharpley is the answer? I don't know, I'll trust Weis on this decision.
 
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I think the first step was to show improvement, which was accomplished to a certain extent. That being said, abandoning the run after being down 31-14 was puzzling. Clausen is the future, I rather him be the one to hand it to Aldridge.
 

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Guys,
I here your thoughts on JC getting playing time. More important is getting this offense moving so we do not ruin the moral of the entire team further. You play the QB that will get some positive movement of the O. JC is not showing that at this time. Evan seems to have more comand. JC will have plenty of time to get experience. Finally, I am not sure JC is a better QB than Evan. His arm is no more accurate at this point and he has shown no more athletic ability. Truthfully, I believe our future QB is a senior in high school. Watch him play he is far more superior at the same point as JC in high school.
 

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Atleast Aldridge got his shot, I've been waiting along time for this guy, and he doesnt disappoint. He ran hard against GT, and he ran hard today. This guy is for real. Keep it mixed up with Aldridge, Hughes, and AA.
 
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Absolutely. Aldridge looked great today. I was actually impressed by the progress we made in the running game. This could be something to build on.
 
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uNiDentified1

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Aldridge looks wonderful and Hughes is a bowling ball of destruction up the middle. Things look very promising with the running game. In other words, I agree with the two previous posts.
 

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Dane Chist will make beleivers out of all of you. This kid is the future. We should be beating the bushes starting tomorrow for the biggest offensive lineman availble...they don't have to be fast, they don't have to be smart, they just need to fill all available space across the line.Add a couple of fast DE's and we will then have a team representative of ND football. I'm tired of being the laughing stock of all the yahoos in the SE Conference.
 
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Dane Chist will make beleivers out of all of you. This kid is the future. We should be beating the bushes starting tomorrow for the biggest offensive lineman availble...they don't have to be fast, they don't have to be smart, they just need to fill all available space across the line.Add a couple of fast DE's and we will then have a team representative of ND football. I'm tired of being the laughing stock of all the yahoos in the SE Conference.

Yeah...big offensive lineman that can't move their friggin' feet. Thanks, but sell stupid somewhere else. (not directed at you...but I'm in Offensive Lineman denial)

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Sumo wrestlers are pretty big, there have to be some willing to strap on the golden helmet.
 
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They should get pants like everyone else. Just cut up the side of the jerseys so their bellies can breathe and tell them to stand there.
 

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What are you crazy Jimmy should be the starter for the next 4 years Sharpley is a bench warmer he is not the QB I want starting Dayne Crist is better than that kid.
 

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I think this is just ridiculous. I said that Sharpley should get a chance after the GT game, but he looked TERRIBLE today. Completely immobile. To be honest I think that giving Clausen the hook that early was a bad move. The last thing we need at this point is inconsistency.

It's Clausen's team. Sit back and be patient while the kid grows.
 

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John,
What game were you watching??? Go back and look at Sharpleys plays. He is every bit as mobile at Clausen. Further, he makes a decision where to throw and fires the ball. He is hitting his guys in the numbers. JC is holding the ball way to long when he has time. Plus, go look at Crist play. He is very mobile for a BIG dude. He has a cannon for an arm and this is with very limited weopons on his offense.
 

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I think this is just ridiculous. I said that Sharpley should get a chance after the GT game, but he looked TERRIBLE today. Completely immobile. To be honest I think that giving Clausen the hook that early was a bad move. The last thing we need at this point is inconsistency.

It's Clausen's team. Sit back and be patient while the kid grows.

Agreed John. I may not think that Sharpley looked as bad as you did, but he didn't look good at all. I think he and Clausen both held the ball too long at times, but there can't be a revolving door at QB. Clausen needs the reps to be the future. Very bad move to pull Clausen at this point, and Charlie is surely smart enough to know that.
 

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John,
What game were you watching??? Go back and look at Sharpleys plays. He is every bit as mobile at Clausen. Further, he makes a decision where to throw and fires the ball. He is hitting his guys in the numbers. JC is holding the ball way to long when he has time. Plus, go look at Crist play. He is very mobile for a BIG dude. He has a cannon for an arm and this is with very limited weopons on his offense.

I didn't say anything about Crist, so I won't speak to that point. But as I said, from what I saw of Sharpley today I thought he looked SLOW - much slower than Clausen, in any case. He did make a few decent throws, but he was playing in garbage time against the third-string defense.

Again, the LAST thing this team needs is a new QB controversy. It's Clausen's team, like it or not. (And I for one like it quite well.)
 

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Well folks,
I will give my full game assesment later, but one thing stands extremely clear to me. Evan Sharpley should be given a chance to start next weeks game. He looks much more comfortable than Jimmy at this point. He throws with zip and seems to make the reads much quicker. JC needs some time to mature. Plus, he is not feeling the pressure and is holding the ball way too long. Jimmy has 4 years. Give Evan a shot to fully prove himself.

You are right about the Zip, but I think Clausen should remain the starter.

Sharpley and Clausen both showed me somethings I liked to see... But Sharpley seems to be not as accurate. Although he scrambles better.

It really is a tough call...but the future of the team seems to rest with Jimmy.

I am giving you reps for this post because I like how you are bringing up a very healthy discussion that is very non-homeristic. I would like to hear more thoughts on Clausen vs Sharpley.
 

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Love,
Thanks for the reply. Now, I ask you to go back the game and look at JC passes and Evan's. I just watched the whole game again and you will see that JC was fortunate to make several of his completions. Grimes and West made incredible diving catches. Evan made several where the receiver catches the ball standing up. We need balls delivered to a WR standing. YAK is hugely important for the passing game. If the WR is on the ground, he cannot run.
 

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Love,
Thanks for the reply. Now, I ask you to go back the game and look at JC passes and Evan's. I just watched the whole game again and you will see that JC was fortunate to make several of his completions. Grimes and West made incredible diving catches. Evan made several where the receiver catches the ball standing up. We need balls delivered to a WR standing. YAK is hugely important for the passing game. If the WR is on the ground, he cannot run.

It seemed to me that JC was hitting guys low, since they were turning back. Conversely, it seemed like ES was gunning HARD...but a bit more inaccurately.

It is a tough decision to be honest. The main reason I lean to JC is the upside potential.
 

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I saw Clausen throw some balls with a lot of zip today, a few very good throws to a certain David Grimes if I recall. I also saw some holding of the ball too long. I saw the same from Sharpley, as well as at least one very poor pass from him that Kamara had to dive backwards 5 yards to catch, negating any chance for a first down.

What conclusion do I draw? None really. Both quarterbacks have only slightly more than zero experience, and they are playing on a team with so many problems it's hard to even list them all. I really don't see how anyone could say that Sharpley looked better than Clausen, unless they are just looking for scapegoats, and I don't think we really need that right now. Lets just keep getting better until we win the NC. (Note, this might not happen this year.)
 

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For those questioning Weis's decision to pull Clausen, he explained it in his post-game interview. He didn't pull him to "protect" him or because he was playing poorly. They were at a point in the game (3 scores down and roughly 11:00 left to play, I believe) where they needed to start running the hurry-up offense if they wanted any hope of coming back, and Sharpley has more experience with that. Obviously, that went nowhere fast, and by the time we got the ball back again I'm guessing the game was considered to be out of hand by the coaching staff, so they just let Sharpley finish it out.
 

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For those questioning Weis's decision to pull Clausen, he explained it in his post-game interview. He didn't pull him to "protect" him or because he was playing poorly. They were at a point in the game (3 scores down and roughly 11:00 left to play, I believe) where they needed to start running the hurry-up offense if they wanted any hope of coming back, and Sharpley has more experience with that. Obviously, that went nowhere fast, and by the time we got the ball back again I'm guessing the game was considered to be out of hand by the coaching staff, so they just let Sharpley finish it out.

Huh. That makes sense, I guess. Thanks, Timugen.
 

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Yea we should definitely think that Crist is the answer next year....:jerkit:

Look if you were going to base assumptions about the quality of quarterback coming out of high school, then why would Crist supplant Jimmy in his frosh year?! Claussen never lost a high school game, was the 'recruit of the decade', threw for over 10,000 yards....the list goes on.

Crist will be an excellent player for ND in the future. He looks great, one of the top QBs in his class if not the best. But saying things like that is just silly.

I didn't get to see Evan play but speaking for JC, his job right now is to not create turnovers. He throws the ball in ugly spots, where there is no chance for the defender to make a play on it, and who cares if there aren't any YAK. He is doing what he is (almost undoubtedly) being told to do, so I don't get the criticism. He is our starter for this season and probably 3 more, and we are lucky to have someone that is as smart and poised as he is at 19, just like Brady.
 

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For those questioning Weis's decision to pull Clausen, he explained it in his post-game interview. He didn't pull him to "protect" him or because he was playing poorly. They were at a point in the game (3 scores down and roughly 11:00 left to play, I believe) where they needed to start running the hurry-up offense if they wanted any hope of coming back, and Sharpley has more experience with that. Obviously, that went nowhere fast, and by the time we got the ball back again I'm guessing the game was considered to be out of hand by the coaching staff, so they just let Sharpley finish it out.

I actually said that during the game to the guy sitting next to me. Only because i remembered from the GT game that Sharpley was the 2 min. quarterback. I assumed i was wrong later when we didn't actually run 2 minute, but it turns out i was right!
 

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This team will grow around Jimmy when he gets better the team will get better we are FINALLY getting a running game to help out. There is light at the end of the tunnel. We made vast improvements moving Sam Young to LT helped tremendously he will be a all-american at LT next year. Most of the sacks came from the Right side Turkovichs' side. We need to put somebody other than that idiot there. All Jimmy needs is reps, reps and more reps. He needs to develope a clock in his head that says get rid of the football. This year is like Brady's freshman year. Brady had the same problems. Look what happened to him.
 

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Yeah...big offensive lineman that can't move their friggin' feet. Thanks, but sell stupid somewhere else. (not directed at you...but I'm in Offensive Lineman denial)

;)

lol

You hit the nail on the head HCTI. That's the problem w/ all these former HS All-Americans we got now...can't move their damn feet.
 
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