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haha nice about the LB thats your coverage you disgrace, their football team an 80% grad. rate? ok taking Nickolodeon doesn't count as a major. I could scratch my balls and watch t.v. and get a degree while getting arrested and given tons of chances too if i had a YEAR to YEAR scholarship. Real honorable program. Florida used to be my fav. (Mostly least hated) team of the 3 Powers in Florida but now it's sadly FSU. Oh god how i hate that state.
 

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Ok- I'm going to do this one more time. Urban Meyer is a fraud and a liar. The 80% number that he keeps using is the bogus GSR which I will explain again later. He also said in this article that the 80% GSR was #1 among bowl teams, which is an outright brutal lie, but he probably figured he was just talking to the same 17 year old kids that he lies to every day. For example ND's GSR is 95%, Boston College is 96%, and there were a few other bowl teams higher than 80%, so Meyer just simply lied, but that is not the real issue.

The real issue is that the 80% figure is the Graduation Success Rate (GSR), which is a bogus indicator that Meyer always tries to use to cite Florida's "academic excellence". It's all BS boys & girls, the actual graduation rate for the period in question for Florida football players is only 42%, for Notre Dame football players, it is 84%. Put another way, historically speaking 16 of the 18 ND recruits in the recruiting class of 2007 are likely to receive an undergraduate degree from ND, while only 11 of the corresponding 27 Gator recruits in the recruiting class of 2007 will accomplish the ultimate goal of a true student athlete. Not only was Meyer wrong in mistakenly excluding ND & BC and others , he is a total hypocrite for bringing the subject up at all, and he should be called out for it. Look the numbers up yourself at the NCAA website. See the link.

http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academi.../grad_rate/2006/d1_school_grad_rate_data.html

More on the GSR:

The GSR applies to every player. What it basically means is that if a player leaves a program for any reason, and at the time he leaves the program he still has athletic eligibility, then he does not count against the GSR as long as he was still academically eligible to play football. In other words in the example above, for the purpose of the GSR, the NCAA considers this kid to have been a graduation success because they assume that he would have eventually graduated. That is why it is a bogus calculation because that assumption is bogus because it assumes that somebody who leaves early for the NFL would have actually graduated. As another example, if a player redshirts his freshman year, he is athletically eligible in his 5th year of attendance. If that player decides to leave school after his 4th year of attendance, and he is still academically eligible to play in that 5th year (which in this case means being within 30 credits of graduation and carrying a 2.0 GPA) then the NCAA does not count him against the GSR even though there is little chance that he would have graduated if he stayed for the fifth year.

Bottom line, the GSR is nothing more than an NCAA ploy in case at some point it is forced to use some academic success measurement to determine post-season eligibility, which will never happen anyway. The only true measurement of "academic excellence" for a real student-athlete is the actual graduation rate of the incoming freshman in each class. By that measurement Florida is not much better than the rest of the SEC, and not even comparable to the ND's, Duke's, and Stanford's. It is actually nauseous to continue to hear about the Florida football program's "academic success" because it is nothing more than an Urban Myth that he perpetuates on these 17 year old recruits.

Please Irish Envy members, on a personal note, I beg of you do not repeat Meyer's 80% graduation rate scam again because if I have to read it one more time, I swear I will be physically sick. Urban Meyer is a cockwad for sure, but he is also a fraud and a liar, and he could not care less whether any of his recruits receive a degree as long as they give him 2 or 3 good years. Every ND fan should be thankful that Urban Meyer did not get the job in South Bend because then every Irish fan would be a part of this guys rampant unethical behavior. I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't care how many NC's Urban Meyer wins, I would never want to be a part of it, even if it was at ND.

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irish4ever

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Urban Cockwad employs his usual 'used car saleman' approach to lure everyone into his "bullshit trance"! He's a true 'prick headed nut sack', that's for sure!!!
 

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you are pretty much awesome, iub.

Thanks dudexcore, but always remember "to loathe Meyer is to inspire". Seriously, the guy may be the most despicable head coach of any college program. If he keeps it up, he will stop walking, and start slithering. EWWWW!
 
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Update from "Everday Should Be Saturday"

University of Florida offensive lineman Ronnie Matthew Wilson was arrested early Thursday on charges of aggravated assault, simple battery and use or display of a concealed weapon during the commission of a felony, a Gainesville Police arrest report stated.

Police accused Wilson, 19, of shooting a semi-automatic rifle after a dispute with another man, according to the report.

Wilson later told police he took the rifle out of his trunk and fired one shot into the air because he wanted the other man “to know how it felt to be scared,” the report stated.
 

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The GSR is bogus, but (big surprise) nowhere is it more bogus than at Cockwad Land.

You have to give the Cockwad credit, he may not have an ethical bone in his body, but he knows how to manipulate numbers in his favor, with the help of the NCAA. The GSR is a scam, but nowhere is the scam more evident than at the University of Florida.

Among the 64 Bowl teams, Florida’s GSR of 80% is tied for 7th with PSU, (despite Urban's lie of yesterday that it was first) behind Navy, BC, ND, Wake Forest, Nebraska, and Rice. However, their actual graduation rate for the same period as the GSR % is 42%, which makes them tied for 51st place among the 64 Bowl teams. Their differential of 38 points between their GSR and their actual Graduation rate is by far the largest differential margin of the 64 Bowl team schools. Only 11 of the 64 had lower actual graduation rates, not surprisingly 4 of the 11 are fellow SEC schools of Florida (LSU, Tennessee, Georgia & Kentucky). Of the 7 other schools with lower graduation rates than Florida only 2, Texas & California, are BCS conference schools. The other 5 are Nevada, Tulsa, San Jose State, New Mexico, and BYU.

Urban Meyer will continue to try to use the terms “academic excellence” and ”student athlete” all he wants with relationship to the University of Florida, but the fact is that it is a massive fraud that is aided and abetted by the NCAA. Florida is just as bad as the rest of the SEC in terms of graduating their football players, and has one of the lowest success rates of the major universities in this country for the ultimate goal of a genuine student athlete. Shame on you, Urban Meyer, I don’t know how you sleep at night.
 

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IrishUncleBill: Thanks for the excellent primer on GSR. It should be posted on GatorNation, but beware the vitriolic response it will surely receive.
 

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And remember when Urban almost came to ND if it wasnt for what his dad told him. His dad told him if u want glory, go to florida. That effin pishead. Im sure glad he didnt come though.
 
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Ok- I'm going to do this one more time. Urban Meyer is a fraud and a liar. The 80% number that he keeps using is the bogus GSR which I will explain again later. He also said in this article that the 80% GSR was #1 among bowl teams, which is an outright brutal lie, but he probably figured he was just talking to the same 17 year old kids that he lies to every day. For example ND's GSR is 95%, Boston College is 96%, and there were a few other bowl teams higher than 80%, so Meyer just simply lied, but that is not the real issue.

The real issue is that the 80% figure is the Graduation Success Rate (GSR), which is a bogus indicator that Meyer always tries to use to cite Florida's "academic excellence". It's all BS boys & girls, the actual graduation rate for the period in question for Florida football players is only 42%, for Notre Dame football players, it is 84%. Put another way, historically speaking 16 of the 18 ND recruits in the recruiting class of 2007 are likely to receive an undergraduate degree from ND, while only 11 of the corresponding 27 Gator recruits in the recruiting class of 2007 will accomplish the ultimate goal of a true student athlete. Not only was Meyer wrong in mistakenly excluding ND & BC and others , he is a total hypocrite for bringing the subject up at all, and he should be called out for it. Look the numbers up yourself at the NCAA website. See the link.

http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academi.../grad_rate/2006/d1_school_grad_rate_data.html

More on the GSR:

The GSR applies to every player. What it basically means is that if a player leaves a program for any reason, and at the time he leaves the program he still has athletic eligibility, then he does not count against the GSR as long as he was still academically eligible to play football. In other words in the example above, for the purpose of the GSR, the NCAA considers this kid to have been a graduation success because they assume that he would have eventually graduated. That is why it is a bogus calculation because that assumption is bogus because it assumes that somebody who leaves early for the NFL would have actually graduated. As another example, if a player redshirts his freshman year, he is athletically eligible in his 5th year of attendance. If that player decides to leave school after his 4th year of attendance, and he is still academically eligible to play in that 5th year (which in this case means being within 30 credits of graduation and carrying a 2.0 GPA) then the NCAA does not count him against the GSR even though there is little chance that he would have graduated if he stayed for the fifth year.

Bottom line, the GSR is nothing more than an NCAA ploy in case at some point it is forced to use some academic success measurement to determine post-season eligibility, which will never happen anyway. The only true measurement of "academic excellence" for a real student-athlete is the actual graduation rate of the incoming freshman in each class. By that measurement Florida is not much better than the rest of the SEC, and not even comparable to the ND's, Duke's, and Stanford's. It is actually nauseous to continue to hear about the Florida football program's "academic success" because it is nothing more than an Urban Myth that he perpetuates on these 17 year old recruits.

Please Irish Envy members, on a personal note, I beg of you do not repeat Meyer's 80% graduation rate scam again because if I have to read it one more time, I swear I will be physically sick. Urban Meyer is a cockwad for sure, but he is also a fraud and a liar, and he could not care less whether any of his recruits receive a degree as long as they give him 2 or 3 good years. Every ND fan should be thankful that Urban Meyer did not get the job in South Bend because then every Irish fan would be a part of this guys rampant unethical behavior. I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't care how many NC's Urban Meyer wins, I would never want to be a part of it, even if it was at ND.

What price victory?

Bill, tell us how you really think about Urbie. No more of the prancing around and mincing words.
 

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Bill, tell us how you really think about Urbie. No more of the prancing around and mincing words.

LOL- What can I say, it was late & about the 200th time yesterday that I had heard about the 80% Urban Meyer shill, had to get it off my chest, but you're wrong, I really do like Urban Meyer. :rolleyes: :puke: :jerkit:
 
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people like him actually don't have a conscience so he won't ever really feel bad
 

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Nice to see you Ron! I say f...k Meyer, if our next two recruiting classes are as good as we hope..Florida will be talking the same smack about Weis. Let's just take care of our own business, and just know meyer is an asstoad of major proportions.
 
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Meyer recruits thugs just like every other Florida school so nothing and I mean nothing surprises me.
 

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Well put UB,that was awesome to read,agree it should be posted on some UF web site, but the feedback would be pretty harsh,cause they live in a FOG!!!:wink:
 

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from that link posted, I like the last paragraph.

"Wilson, 6-3, 300 pounds, enrolled as a redshirt freshman in the spring of 2005. He attended Blanche Ely High school in Pompano Beach. He is majoring in social and behavioral sciences."

THIS guy is majoring in social and behavioral science?!!?!???! :jawdrop:
 
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