by what game

by what game

  • 1-3 game on

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 4-6 week on

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • 6-9 week on

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • back up to jones, frazer or sharpley

    Votes: 13 48.1%
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    Votes: 9 33.3%

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notredomer23

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by what game Will Jimmy Clausen start. I have read some articles from espn magazine about 7 on 7 and he is really showing big game potential. I think it is pretty obvious he will start some time this season if not from the beginning unless Jones is really good. I say JC starts from the beginning
 
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This is literally just me, but i think Frazer starts from Game 1 to Game 12 + Bowl
 

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I think that whomever starts game one will start game 12 unless something major happens. I really just think whomever wins the job in camp will be the starter all year.
 

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I think JC has a legit shot at winning the starting job or being one of the final two coming out of spring ball. According to the article on him in ESPN the magazine he has had the play book and watching ND game film since November, and he has even had tutoring from a current NFL Qb, Matt Cassel of the Patriots. I think he will be atleast on equal footing with the other three guys as far as the playbook and terminology aspects of the position goes. If he can show that physically he is ready to make all the throws and run a team then I think he gets the ball against GT. I don't know how you can't play him this year if its a close QB battle in the fall, this is going to be a down year in all likelyhood, why not get him a year under his belt so that from his sophmore year on he is able to be the man the puts us in national title contention every year. To me I think who ever wins the job this year is basically the starter until graduation or injury, how can you name one guy the starter one year, and then make him the back up the next. If that happens then who ever were to lose the starting job next year probably transfers out.
 
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I just can't believe that a true freshman is going to be able to pick up this offense quick enough to win the starting job. Everything that I've read suggests that Sharpley is the only one who has a handle on it.
 

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Isn't it a little risky throwing a freshman QB into the mix, when so many of the surrounding players are new as well? I would say Jimmy would start from the get go if the majority of the offense was returning (Darius, Shark, ect., ect.) in order to help in the transition and take a little of the heat off of him, but with such a rebuilding of the offense throwing a true freshman QB into the offense may be risky to his development. I wouldn't mind seeing him sit out his freshman year, get a real good grip of the offense while working side by side with Charlie and come out firing on all cylinders his sophmore year. Its similar to keeping the rookie NFL qb on the bench in order to learn without getting his psyche screwed with.
 

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Is it true there is no redshirt year for early enrollees? So essentially JC has the same eligibility as DJ and JF?
 
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Should be an interesting spring.
Does spring ball ever get more meaningful or fun for fans? ND has no guarantees set for WR, RB, QB, . All in all there is probably only 10-12 guys we know are going to be starters and of those 12 do we even know where Travis Thomas is going to be playing? With an entirely new D and a basically new roster fans of the Irish have a lot to watch for this Spring.
 

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well they wont be sitting Clausen this year because they dont wanna throw him into the fire. The other QBs on our team happen to be (RS) freshman so ok what are they gonna be like Bledsoe waiting for Romo to take over? no i don't think so if hes better he gets the start and last time i checked Frazer and Jones have ZERO game experience either. Who really thinks Sharpley will start over the other 3 seriously? just because he knows the plays? come on...he wil be a backup and play baseball
 

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This is literally just me, but i think Frazer starts from Game 1 to Game 12 + Bowl

I agree. Why not bring Jimmy along slowly and let him learn the system. But if the other qbs are just completely ineffective, I think he has to play.
 

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well they wont be sitting Clausen this year because they dont wanna throw him into the fire. The other QBs on our team happen to be (RS) freshman so ok what are they gonna be like Bledsoe waiting for Romo to take over? no i don't think so if hes better he gets the start and last time i checked Frazer and Jones have ZERO game experience either. Who really thinks Sharpley will start over the other 3 seriously? just because he knows the plays? come on...he wil be a backup and play baseball

I wouldn't completely underestimate Sharpley after having Quinn as an example and Charlie Weis as a coach. How many snaps has he taken in the past two seasons, 10? I don't think you can thoroughly evaluate someone's talent based on 10 meaningless plays. Watching the progression of Quinn while soaking up all of Weis's teaching and knowledge could produce some surprising results. Sure JC is the program's cornerstone of the future, yet that doesn't mean he has to endure a baptism of fire. He may progress better sitting out a year and learning, while maybe getting some snaps throughtout the season. Either way, regardless of what I think, or others for that matter, I believe that no matter what the outcome of the preseason, Charlie will get it right when it comes to which QB will play.
 

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I just can't believe that a true freshman is going to be able to pick up this offense quick enough to win the starting job. Everything that I've read suggests that Sharpley is the only one who has a handle on it.

I have to agree with this. If Clausen does not start, I don't think he will see the field this year. Why waste a year if he is not the starter. We have 3 QBs that could be the backup to give him an extra year. Weis's play book is not easy to learn and that is why I think Sharpley will be the starter. If the o-line is really bad, then Jones might be the best bet as QB since he is more mobile.
 

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This is literally just me, but i think Frazer starts from Game 1 to Game 12 + Bowl

hey gallup do you think you have a healthy bias for frazer or do you really think he is the best fit and the best QB ? an honest question and didnt mean it in a bad way thanks
 

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hey gallup do you think you have a healthy bias for frazer or do you really think he is the best fit and the best QB ? an honest question and didnt mean it in a bad way thanks

I was thinking the same thing, but Frazier was rated as high as Jones coming out of high school. (4 star guy)
 
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gallup21

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haha Tommy, honestly a bit of both. I think Zach's a nice guy and all...but aside from that i re-read his interview and the one i did with his dad every week. I also read articles about the others, but from whats Zach dad said (which is a lot) i think he really has a chance to start....like a real legitimate shot, better then avg. I'll post his dad and coaches interview i did, be back in a few
 
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here are Zach's dad and Zach's HS coaches interviews

Ok – here you go. You have my permission and Coach Litchel’s to publish these remarks.



My responses:

1. How I have seen Zach progress over the years as a QB & a leader? Zach has excelled as a player and more importantly as a leader. I can recall him playing football as a youth. He used to dress up in this “kids – Philly Eagles or Pitts Steelers uniform – complete with shoulder pads and cheap plastic helmet. He would organize all of the kids in the neighborhood and play tackle in the back yard. If they didn’t have enough kids, they’d make players out of cardboard boxes – so that he could align defenses and hit something. They would play daily until after dark & throughout the year – regardless of the weather. As he got older, he played pee-wee ball, pony and midget level organized football for the City Catholic League. He lived and breathed football as a kid and still does. During his pre-high school years, he played tailback, set rushing records & won a state championship. When the coach wanted to throw the ball long, they’d set up Zach as QB & even though everyone knew it was a passing play – they would constantly beat teams with his arm. As a 9th grader, he set the state record for tossing a softball in the State Olympic games. He started to play high school ball in 9th grade. He played tailback &/or QB, they won their division with a 10 & 0 record. There are no play-offs for 9th grade in PA. In the 10th grade, he beat out a 3-yr starter for the QB position – mid way through the season. During his junior year in high school, he set the state record for most passing yards in a single season. Not many people know it, but he was the only Division one player on that team. He also participated in every possible QB camp that he could get to (elite 11, east coast elite, and several college programs – I recall @ the Purdue and Michigan QB camps – he was camp MVP). His leadership skills are his strength. He is humble, honest, hard working and dedicated to his trade & team. He is not a show off or cocky player – you won’t see him dancing on stage or in the end -zone. He would rather recognize his team mates or coaches versus himself. As a QB, he has been trained by coaches that consisted of a former NFL QB and very successful college QB. He really developed his leadership skills during his senior year of high school. The team he played had graduated all of the athletes the prior year. Zach could have transferred to a different team, but he elected to stay with his alma-mater and help develop as many young players that he could. That hurt him in the “national media rankings” – but we all know how those systems gather & report their information. From our point of view, only Coach Weis’s opinion matters.



2. Do I think Zach can still make progress? He is not the type of person that thinks he knows it all. He will continue to work hard and hone his skills. He elected to go to ND because of the coaches and the school’s academic reputation.



3. How do I feel about Zach’s chances of starting @ QB in 07? There is no doubt in my mind that he will be the next QB at ND – but of course – I’m the Dad – so why wouldn’t I say that. I will tell you that he did not go to ND to sit on the bench and he could have played at any Division I school of his choice. Zach has been loyal to the ND program since his early recruiting announcement and he trusts and believes in Coach Weis and his offensive system. I know he is working very hard this off-season and is very comfortable with his status. I will tell you that many consider Zach to be a non-mobile QB; however, I think they would pleased to know that he played tailback earlier in his career – trust me – he can run with the ball. Think about it - would you want to tackle a 225lb QB running at you with 4.6 speed? Also, when Coach Weis was recruiting him – he stressed that he preferred Zach’s “escape-ability from the pocket” skills and that he was his first offer as the ND coach and he would build the team around him. Since no one has seen him in practice nor on the field (other than warm-ups), I’m sure ND fans are anxious to see him on the field. I wish I could tell you more; however, out of respect for the other players, any more “inside” information needs to stay within the team.



4. What are his best qualities as a QB? Again, let’s keep it in perspective – you’re talking to a parent - In my opinion, he possesses both the physical and mental qualities for today’s modern QB. He is now 6’5” and 227lbs – and there is no fat on his body. Actually, when I saw him over this holiday break, I could not believe the physical transition (how ripped & lean) his body has become. I think his physical size and strength are his attributes that are hard to overlook. Today’s QB needs to be able to see over the line and be able to take a pounding. They also need to be able to deliver the ball quickly and accurately in a very tight window / timeframe. Having the physical size, mental capability to absorb complicated systems, apply it on the field, and lead / manage the adversity of being the ND QB position is what will set him apart. Zach comes from a blue collar environment and has been raised to live by the Ten Commandments. He is dedicated and has tremendous work ethics and attitude. He has experience playing in all types of weather and a complicated pass oriented system. He has played under adversity, in come from behind situations, played without D-1 talent & hype surrounding him – and yet he still excelled to be selected as an Elite / Division I QB playing for the best program in the country.



Coach Rich Litchel (Mechanicsburg High School, Mechanicsburg, PA) comments:



1. What was the best part of having Zach on your team? He was a talented role model. A true leader and the best QB I’ve ever coached.



2) Did others on the team look up to him? Yes – he inspired them with his toughness and ability to win. He was the glue that held everyone together. He is a natural leader – in that he inspires people to do things that they did not think was possible.



3) Did he make others around him look good on the field? Yes – his ability to read defenses enabled him to make multiple receiver reads. Receivers knew that on every play they could be the one getting the ball – so they worked extra hard and we were very successful. That success is attributed to Zach – he was my coach on the field.



4) Is Zach good at competing under pressure? Yes – that is when he is at his best! We had several games that we had to come from behind late in the game. I basically told Zach to make it happen and he always delivered! He never gives up and don’t be surprised when he does the same @ ND! That’s why we nicknamed him the “Zach Attack”.



5) Did Zach have to beat anyone out for the starting job in HS? Mid way through his sophomore year, he replaced a senior starter. I have watched Zach in local camps since he was in the eighth grade – I knew we had someone special coming up through our ranks. I couldn’t wait to have him lead our team. He is the best QB to not only come out of our high school, but one of the best to come out of Pennsylvania. When you think about some of the great PA high school players that went on to great achievements (like Marino, Unitas, Kelly, Namath, Montana and recently Henne), Zach is from that same mold and breed and if he excels like I know he can - hopefully history will include his name in the future.
 

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here are Zach's dad and Zach's HS coaches interviews

Ok – here you go. You have my permission and Coach Litchel’s to publish these remarks.



My responses:

1. How I have seen Zach progress over the years as a QB & a leader? Zach has excelled as a player and more importantly as a leader. I can recall him playing football as a youth. He used to dress up in this “kids – Philly Eagles or Pitts Steelers uniform – complete with shoulder pads and cheap plastic helmet. He would organize all of the kids in the neighborhood and play tackle in the back yard. If they didn’t have enough kids, they’d make players out of cardboard boxes – so that he could align defenses and hit something. They would play daily until after dark & throughout the year – regardless of the weather. As he got older, he played pee-wee ball, pony and midget level organized football for the City Catholic League. He lived and breathed football as a kid and still does. During his pre-high school years, he played tailback, set rushing records & won a state championship. When the coach wanted to throw the ball long, they’d set up Zach as QB & even though everyone knew it was a passing play – they would constantly beat teams with his arm. As a 9th grader, he set the state record for tossing a softball in the State Olympic games. He started to play high school ball in 9th grade. He played tailback &/or QB, they won their division with a 10 & 0 record. There are no play-offs for 9th grade in PA. In the 10th grade, he beat out a 3-yr starter for the QB position – mid way through the season. During his junior year in high school, he set the state record for most passing yards in a single season. Not many people know it, but he was the only Division one player on that team. He also participated in every possible QB camp that he could get to (elite 11, east coast elite, and several college programs – I recall @ the Purdue and Michigan QB camps – he was camp MVP). His leadership skills are his strength. He is humble, honest, hard working and dedicated to his trade & team. He is not a show off or cocky player – you won’t see him dancing on stage or in the end -zone. He would rather recognize his team mates or coaches versus himself. As a QB, he has been trained by coaches that consisted of a former NFL QB and very successful college QB. He really developed his leadership skills during his senior year of high school. The team he played had graduated all of the athletes the prior year. Zach could have transferred to a different team, but he elected to stay with his alma-mater and help develop as many young players that he could. That hurt him in the “national media rankings” – but we all know how those systems gather & report their information. From our point of view, only Coach Weis’s opinion matters.



2. Do I think Zach can still make progress? He is not the type of person that thinks he knows it all. He will continue to work hard and hone his skills. He elected to go to ND because of the coaches and the school’s academic reputation.



3. How do I feel about Zach’s chances of starting @ QB in 07? There is no doubt in my mind that he will be the next QB at ND – but of course – I’m the Dad – so why wouldn’t I say that. I will tell you that he did not go to ND to sit on the bench and he could have played at any Division I school of his choice. Zach has been loyal to the ND program since his early recruiting announcement and he trusts and believes in Coach Weis and his offensive system. I know he is working very hard this off-season and is very comfortable with his status. I will tell you that many consider Zach to be a non-mobile QB; however, I think they would pleased to know that he played tailback earlier in his career – trust me – he can run with the ball. Think about it - would you want to tackle a 225lb QB running at you with 4.6 speed? Also, when Coach Weis was recruiting him – he stressed that he preferred Zach’s “escape-ability from the pocket” skills and that he was his first offer as the ND coach and he would build the team around him. Since no one has seen him in practice nor on the field (other than warm-ups), I’m sure ND fans are anxious to see him on the field. I wish I could tell you more; however, out of respect for the other players, any more “inside” information needs to stay within the team.



4. What are his best qualities as a QB? Again, let’s keep it in perspective – you’re talking to a parent - In my opinion, he possesses both the physical and mental qualities for today’s modern QB. He is now 6’5” and 227lbs – and there is no fat on his body. Actually, when I saw him over this holiday break, I could not believe the physical transition (how ripped & lean) his body has become. I think his physical size and strength are his attributes that are hard to overlook. Today’s QB needs to be able to see over the line and be able to take a pounding. They also need to be able to deliver the ball quickly and accurately in a very tight window / timeframe. Having the physical size, mental capability to absorb complicated systems, apply it on the field, and lead / manage the adversity of being the ND QB position is what will set him apart. Zach comes from a blue collar environment and has been raised to live by the Ten Commandments. He is dedicated and has tremendous work ethics and attitude. He has experience playing in all types of weather and a complicated pass oriented system. He has played under adversity, in come from behind situations, played without D-1 talent & hype surrounding him – and yet he still excelled to be selected as an Elite / Division I QB playing for the best program in the country.



Coach Rich Litchel (Mechanicsburg High School, Mechanicsburg, PA) comments:



1. What was the best part of having Zach on your team? He was a talented role model. A true leader and the best QB I’ve ever coached.



2) Did others on the team look up to him? Yes – he inspired them with his toughness and ability to win. He was the glue that held everyone together. He is a natural leader – in that he inspires people to do things that they did not think was possible.



3) Did he make others around him look good on the field? Yes – his ability to read defenses enabled him to make multiple receiver reads. Receivers knew that on every play they could be the one getting the ball – so they worked extra hard and we were very successful. That success is attributed to Zach – he was my coach on the field.



4) Is Zach good at competing under pressure? Yes – that is when he is at his best! We had several games that we had to come from behind late in the game. I basically told Zach to make it happen and he always delivered! He never gives up and don’t be surprised when he does the same @ ND! That’s why we nicknamed him the “Zach Attack”.



5) Did Zach have to beat anyone out for the starting job in HS? Mid way through his sophomore year, he replaced a senior starter. I have watched Zach in local camps since he was in the eighth grade – I knew we had someone special coming up through our ranks. I couldn’t wait to have him lead our team. He is the best QB to not only come out of our high school, but one of the best to come out of Pennsylvania. When you think about some of the great PA high school players that went on to great achievements (like Marino, Unitas, Kelly, Namath, Montana and recently Henne), Zach is from that same mold and breed and if he excels like I know he can - hopefully history will include his name in the future.

wow thanks dude I figured you had some reasons aside from any friendships you have for thinking highly of zach its going to be fun to see and hear about the battle of four It doesnt matter to me this year but after this year I would like to see what jimmy can do . Unless he just isnt the best pick for the team .
 

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Does spring ball ever get more meaningful or fun for fans? ND has no guarantees set for WR, RB, QB, . All in all there is probably only 10-12 guys we know are going to be starters and of those 12 do we even know where Travis Thomas is going to be playing? With an entirely new D and a basically new roster fans of the Irish have a lot to watch for this Spring.

Totally agree. Today's fun will be this fall's anxiety, but for now it's a blast.

Oh yeah, I voted that Clausen won't start this year. I think there are too many guys ahead of him.
 
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