Goodbye to my least favorite recruiting phrase!

GoshenGipper

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During his presser coach Weis just said he's not going to deal with silent commitments anymore. Either you are or you aren't, and if you are then you're not going to talk to or visit any other school. CW: "No silent verbals. If they're looking, we're looking." :clap:
 
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How would you feel with what has happened this year.
 

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Yeah he did! I think that's a great thing though. He also said he is still learning the recruiting game and he will get better. He also confirmed my new recruiting strategy that I reported in the VC members only forum.
 

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Sounds great to me. Charlie is doing pretty damn well given the steep learning curve involved in recruiting ...
 

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Yeah he did! I think that's a great thing though. He also said he is still learning the recruiting game and he will get better. He also confirmed my new recruiting strategy that I reported in the VC members only forum.

It really does sound like a good thing. He had a 'this ain't happening again' tone to his voice.
 

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How many scholarships for 08?

How many scholarships for 08?

28? 29? 30?

Time to get busy coaches. We have some serious ground to make up.
 
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this has turned out to be one shitty recruiting season
 

BigIrish

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28? 29? 30?

Time to get busy coaches. We have some serious ground to make up.

weis already indicated in today's presser that, depending on the fifth year situation next year, he's probably going to be looking to add about 20 kids to the roster.

although he didn't address it, i would expect a full half of the class to consist of defensive and offensive line commits (or at least it should.)
 

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weis already indicated in today's presser that, depending on the fifth year situation next year, he's probably going to be looking to add about 20 kids to the roster.

although he didn't address it, i would expect a full half of the class to consist of defensive and offensive line commits (or at least it should.)

Thanks. Why only 20? ND will have way more schollies than that, won't they?
 

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Thanks. Why only 20? ND will have way more schollies than that, won't they?

not necessarily. with the 18 he just brought in, he's signed 60 recruits over the past three recruiting cycles (technically, he's brought in 61 kids, - yeatman's scholly was a lacrosse scholarship this year, but i'm not sure how that plays out in the long run).

granted, next year's senior class will is small, but you have to factor in how the fifth year's will play out. he can only have 85 scholarship players, so if he were to bring in 25 kids next year, that would be 85 players signed in 4 years, leaving no room for fifth years at all the following year. i would expect 20...maybe 21 kids in next year's class.
 

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not necessarily. with the 18 he just brought in, he's signed 60 recruits over the past three recruiting cycles (technically, he's brought in 61 kids, - yeatman's scholly was a lacrosse scholarship this year, but i'm not sure how that plays out in the long run).

granted, next year's senior class will is small, but you have to factor in how the fifth year's will play out. he can only have 85 scholarship players, so if he were to bring in 25 kids next year, that would be 85 players signed in 4 years, leaving no room for fifth years at all the following year. i would expect 20...maybe 21 kids in next year's class.

People forget that other schools routinely bring in over 20 because so many kids don't graduate. When all the students stay for at least 4 years, you can't hand out so many all the time. But I wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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People forget that other schools routinely bring in over 20 because so many kids don't graduate. When all the students stay for at least 4 years, you can't hand out so many all the time. But I wouldn't have it any other way.

Good point. Thanks guys.
 

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Yeatman changed over to a football scholarship at the last min. last summer, but lacross is still his first priority when his two sports have conflicting schedules.
 

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right. good point.

the fifth year thing is what makes the scholarship issue so confusing. for instance - 10 kids from last year's class didn't see the field, making them essentially freshman next year in terms of eligibility.

now, lets say that of the 18 that signed today, 10 of them see the field next year (not likely - i would expect all of them outside of the oline prospects to see the field). that means that in four years, when the bulk of today's class is in it's fourth year of eligibility, there could actually be 20 fourth-year eligibility players on the team - ten from last year's class and ten from this years class, or two more in total than what were signed this year.

sufficiently confused? the problem really comes in when a significant number of players in any given class exhausts a year of eligibility during their first year on campus. if, for instance, all 20 of the kids we take next year play in their first year, by the time they're seniors, the combination of seniors and fifth year seniors on the team would stand at 30, making a very senior-laden team and leaving a dearth of experience the following year when a third of your team departed.

the bottom line is that, as weis mentioned today, the goal is to take a balanced number of players each year so that, when fifth year seniors are factored in, you don't find yourself with any given class that's disproportionately larger than the others.
 
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