BQ: Good game or not?

[solo]

I think not.

the 2nd INT wasn't his fault. But even up to that point, he was off. Less than 50% completion. Awful decision on the INT in the first half. He threw late to guys thet were open early. He threw high. He threw to guys that weren't open.

Yet another bad game for him when facing a good defense.

Terry Bradhsaw just said that "this is a bad game for BQ, not the way he wanted to go out".

Anyone still think he had a good game?

PS...15 of 35 2 TDs. 2 INTs, about 150 yards passing. Once again, BQ blew chunks when the pressure was on.

 

[Junkhead]

I have done nothing but defend him. He is a great kid and an outstanding QB. But, he had time to throw today, and played mediocre. I think the pressure (heisman, NFL #1 pick etc) got to him. I hate to see him go out on that game, but what can you do.

 

[solo]

I have done nothing but defend him. He is a great kid and an outstanding QB. But, he had time to throw today, and played mediocre. I think the pressure (heisman, NFL #1 pick etc) got to him. I hate to see him go out on that game, but what can you do.

Trust me, I never questioned his character or integrity. I just don't think he can play well under pressure, which is why I doubt he will have a successful NFL career.

 

[Junkhead]

Trust me, I never questioned his character or integrity. I just don't think he can play well under pressure, which is why I doubt he will have a successful NFL career.

I thought he got a bad rap in big games, until tonight. I still wish him the best in the NFL, but that was pretty sad.

 

[ojo_223]

Trust me, I never questioned his character or integrity. I just don't think he can play well under pressure, which is why I doubt he will have a successful NFL career.

Well, I hope that you are wrong there. But, he was off a lot tonight. He didn't get a lot of help from his recievers either.

 

[buckeyebacker]

I like Brady Quinn...but tonite, like said before, he had good time to throw but made bad throws and didnt perform like I thought he would....might have some NFL executives questioning themselves at this point in time

 

[goldenechoes]

I think not.

the 2nd INT wasn't his fault. But even up to that point, he was off. Less than 50% completion. Awful decision on the INT in the first half. He threw late to guys thet were open early. He threw high. He threw to guys that weren't open.

Yet another bad game for him when facing a good defense.

Terry Bradhsaw just said that "this is a bad game for BQ, not the way he wanted to go out".

Anyone still think he had a good game?

PS...15 of 35 2 TDs. 2 INTs, about 150 yards passing. Once again, BQ blew chunks when the pressure was on.

Crap....it wont let me give you anymore negative feedback.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

He's gonna hear about choking in the big games until he proves otherwise; so is Charlie Weis (fair or not) for that matter. I'm starting to wonder about his NFL future, too. I hate to say it, but tonight he reminded me of Ron Powlus as he primarily dropped straight back, ran for dear life & failed miserably when trying to throw on the run. I didn't think Matt Leinart deserved to drop so far in the 1st round last year, so there's no telling where Quinn could end up. He might be better off dropping to ease the expectations (if that's possible) & to hopefully get picked by a team w/ a better O-Line. Of course if he still goes in the top 3, he'll be used to playing behind a crappy O-line...it's just the NFL hits a lot harder.

 

[wahoo]

i thought Brady had a sub-stadard day but the receivers didn't help. Mcknight needs stickum on his hands and Shark needs to go get the dent taken out of his helmet from the ball hitting it!!
Where was Carlson?????? I think they only threw to him once

 

[Junkhead]

I don't doubt BQ's overall talent, but he had an off day. The problem (in my eyes) was that the OL seemed to play well this game. McKnight has sucked ass the past 2 games as well.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I don't doubt BQ's overall talent, but he had an off day. The problem (in my eyes) was that the OL seemed to play well this game. McKnight has sucked ass the past 2 games as well.

McKnight's play has cost him dearly when it comes to draft status. He ain't Mo Stovall.

 

[BGIF]

I don't doubt BQ's overall talent, but he had an off day. The problem (in my eyes) was that the OL seemed to play well this game. McKnight has sucked ass the past 2 games as well.

ND played a bunch of double TEs and Walker frequently was in pass protection to maximize protection. Despite all the blitzing Brady seemed to have more time to throw than he did against UM or USC but he had fewer targets become the open man. I though he got in synch in the 2nd Q but that flash didn't carry over into the 2nd half. I don't know how the stats play out but this game struck me as one of his poorer efforts.

The WRs don't get a pass either. They had moments (McKnight's one hander and Grimes grab in traffic) but lacked consistency and that's hard to say when Samardzija had 8 catches but they did.

Kudos to the LSU D. They did have something to say about the results.

 

[BGIF]

McKnight's play has cost him dearly when it comes to draft status. He ain't Mo Stovall.

It didn't look like we had 5 First Rounders out there, did it.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

It didn't look like we had 5 First Rounders out there, did it.

Nope. I think the 5 1st rounders comes from Mel Kiper who is an admitted ND fan. Ryan Harris has regressed from last yr. McKnight gets alligator arms over the middle or whines for a pass interference call if he misses catch, Zibby still bites on the play action, Abiamiri takes too many plays off (probably from being worn out after consistent double teams). Samardzija & Quinn are the only sure fire 1st rounders in my humble, unprofessional opinion. And I wouldn't be suprised if Samardzija's baseball career combined w/ the rate of 1st round WR flops in past drafts doesn't drop him to the 2nd round.

 

[buckeyebacker]

Anyone out there want to question some play calling?? I thought that they found some things with Walker then went immediately away from that, my thoughts are run it til they stop ya, and Walker did some things on consecutive plays then they went away from him....didnt think this was the best play callers game, whoever calls the games

 

[BGIF]

Nope. I think the 5 1st rounders comes from Mel Kiper who is an admitted ND fan. Ryan Harris has regressed from last yr. McKnight gets alligator arms over the middle or whines for a pass interference call if he misses catch, Zibby still bites on the play action, Abiamiri takes too many plays off (probably from being worn out after consistent double teams). Samardzija & Quinn are the only sure fire 1st rounders in my humble, unprofessional opinion. And I wouldn't be suprised if Samardzija's baseball career combined w/ the rate of 1st round WR flops in past drafts doesn't drop him to the 2nd round.

Harris started out the season and he never struck me as dominant this year. I've been curious if he's the injury effected him all season. With CW's lid on injury reports there's no way to know. I can't disagree or offer any more on your other comments.

 

[atrain78255]

Sorry to say this, but Brady had another bad game in a big time contest. That makes three of them this year.

 

[ten]

Anyone out there want to question some play calling?? I thought that they found some things with Walker then went immediately away from that, my thoughts are run it til they stop ya, and Walker did some things on consecutive plays then they went away from him....didnt think this was the best play callers game, whoever calls the games

minter will get the blame for that one.The D shut down and forced weis to go to the pass playing catchup.

 

[Steve]

ND had alot of max protection today which is why he had so much time. problem is, that left him fewer guys to throw to and those guys couldn't get open against the secondary.

 

[buckeyebacker]

ND had alot of max protection today which is why he had so much time. problem is, that left him fewer guys to throw to and those guys couldn't get open against the secondary.

Being a former QB myself I understand that to keep him standing up meant keeping more threats in to block...however, he still just didnt look "right" almost like he was confused, and didnt know where to go with the ball, good to see him upright most of the game but disappointed I didnt see him make very many good throws

 

[Irish93]

Brady's timing was off all night. Nearly every ball that he threw seemed to come out too late. And, all of this was happening when the running game was generally effective.

If I was drafting in the Top 10, I would stay away from him. I think that Weis improved his skills and gave him a lot of confidence and enhanced his leadership skills. But, we saw last night, the same thing that we saw in his first two years.

I think that the entire senior class was good, but overrated. Bring in the new blood.

 

[njuneardave]

i feel bad for brady... i wish him the best in the future. he, along with the rest of the squad (including coaches), had an awful game last night with the exception of dwalk. i hope brady can prove his mettle in the future.

 

[Irish93]

As I said in another post (in my post-game venting), Walker was good, not great. He got his 100 yds. despite the fact that he can't make any open field moves. To his credit, he did find the holes really well.

I think that the second play from scrimmage summarizes his style of play. He got nine yards, and could have lowered his head to get the extra yard for a first down. Instead, he ducked out of bounds. We were lucky to get the first down on the next play. I don't want to turn this into a beat on Walker thread, but I really see his playing time going down next year (i.e. 50% of the time on the field).

 

[BigIrish]

did anybody tivo the game? i'd be willing to bet quinn hit at least 8 passes on the numbers and receivers flat out dropped them. or didn't even see them when they hit them on their helmets (ala shark). add those 8 drops to quinn's completion total and he's at 65%. is that a bad day? i can specifically recall three drops by shark, two by mcknight, and one by freeman.

quinn made some poor decisions and some bad passes last night. outside of grimes, his receivers were miserable.

i'll be the first to say it. mcknight and shark choke in big games.

 

[Irish93]

did anybody tivo the game? i'd be willing to bet quinn hit at least 8 passes on the numbers and receivers flat out dropped them. or didn't even see them when they hit them on their helmets (ala shark). add those 8 drops to quinn's completion total and he's at 65%. is that a bad day? i can specifically recall three drops by shark, two by mcknight, and one by freeman.

quinn made some poor decisions and some bad passes last night. outside of grimes, his receivers were miserable.

i'll be the first to say it. mcknight and shark choke in big games.

Brady didn't help things. His timing was way off all night. Shark, I don't have a problem with. McKnight on the other hand, I am in full agreement.

 

[solo]

did anybody tivo the game? i'd be willing to bet quinn hit at least 8 passes on the numbers and receivers flat out dropped them. or didn't even see them when they hit them on their helmets (ala shark). add those 8 drops to quinn's completion total and he's at 65%. is that a bad day? i can specifically recall three drops by shark, two by mcknight, and one by freeman.

quinn made some poor decisions and some bad passes last night. outside of grimes, his receivers were miserable.

i'll be the first to say it. mcknight and shark choke in big games.

Youmake a good point that the WR's let him down. But drops are part of the game. The fact is that he had time and either misfired or made bad decisions much of the game. He was late getting the ball to the Wr's. He threw into coverage. His first TD pass as simply a jump ball to guy that wasn't open. Luckily, our guy came down with it. Had his Wr's executed better, I would upgrade his perfronce from bad to mediocre. But under no circumstances can I say that he had a good game or even the potential of a good game. He made too many poor decision and bad throws to say that.

 

[njuneardave]

brady's accuracy was way off last night... he threw a lot of low balls... he threw even more high balls... i wish him the best, and i am sorry that it had to end like this for him. i know he wanted to do better for himself and for the fans

 

[BigIrish]

agreed. i'm not trying to make the case that brady would have had a good game had the receivers caught more balls.

however, IMO, after watching them all season, i think it's obvious that shark is not going to be the marquee receiver on the team. he excels the most when he can be the secondary receiver. when a defense focuses on shutting him down by getting physical with him, he struggles.

mcknight? he makes me wish stovall had another year instead. for every big time reception he makes, he drops an easy ball. yeah, yeah...he had 15 TD receptions this year. but i'll take consistency over that stat line any day.

 

[Irish93]

mcknight? he makes me wish stovall had another year instead. for every big time reception he makes, he drops an easy ball. yeah, yeah...he had 15 TD receptions this year. but i'll take consistency over that stat line any day.

Right. How soon we forget how many jump balls Stovall caught for big gains or touchdowns to get us out of trouble last year.

I wish Brady all of the luck in the world. But, I think that if a team drafts him in the top 10, they might be disappointed in the cost-benefit ratio.

 

[Aerosmith777]

This is really the first game in the past 2 years I can remember Quinn having a bad game, and me thinking, "It really is all his fault." He had time, he wasn't under pressure all night the way he was against UM or USC. His poor play really was all on him.

It sucks and I feel bad for him. He's done a lot to help the program over the past 2 years, and I still think he has a tremendous upside at the next level. I hope he has success wherever he goes next year.