Brady Quinn- A Bill, Lion, or Raider?

[punishment]

You're right ... until Al Davis leaves the Raiders, they'll remain mediocre (at best). As a life-long Raider fan (and Irish fan as well), it kills me to see how Al is strangling the life out of that organization. As much as I would love to see Brady QB for my favorite NFL team, I don't see that happening (Al wouldn't select this fine of a QB in the 1st round). You have to admit though, Brady is well versed in running for his life in the backfield this year, so he's definitely groomed to work behind Oakland's worthless O line protection!

YES! Another Raider fan. For a while I thought it was all Browns, Bengals and Bears fans, oh my.

Besides, I don't think the Raiders will draft a QB even with the #1 pick. The Raiders will select Adrian Petersen.

 

[FleaFlicker]

People need to stop saying that BQ isn't a big game QB. What are they basing it on????

He had a really good game against OSU last year. He had a GREAT game against USC that same year.

You guys realize that if our defense stops USC on 4th and 9, that Quinn is heralded as a great "it" QB because of how he drove down the field, with the game on the line?

If we win that game, he is a hero, but because the Defense fell apart, he is not good in big games? WTF.

He had a decent game against USC this year, not great, not bad. But considering his receivers were getting barely any separation, and dropping balls, I'd say he did pretty well.

Hello? UCLA game, came up big when it mattered.

So it premier games, he has played great once, good twice, and bad once. He hasn't been lights out, but that doesn't fall all on him.

The UM game does, because he was horrible in it, but that is ONE game out of his 4 year career.

 

[punishment]

You guys realize that if our defense stops USC on 4th and 9, that Quinn is heralded as a great "it" QB because of how he drove down the field, with the game on the line?.

That's a great point. The Michigan memories are fresher though.

 

[irish4ever]

People need to stop saying that BQ isn't a big game QB. What are they basing it on????

I agree with you. That is why I said that I would love to have him as the QB of my favorite NFL team. I think that he'll do excellent at the next level. He has all the tools to make it great ... the mechanics, a strong arm, can throw on the run, can throw with the right touch, has the smarts (he chose ND, didn't he?), he's a leader and he's resilient when taking a beating by the opposing 'D'. I still contend that he'll be the number one QB taken in the draft!

 

[jerseyborn1971]

No doubt he is the #1 QB, the question really is will he be the #1 overall? The draft is weird. Too many variables. Did anyone at this time last year think that neither Reggie Bush, Vince Young or Matt Leinart would be the #1 pick?

 

[FleaFlicker]

Did anyone at this time last year think that neither Reggie Bush, Vince Young or Matt Leinart would be the #1 pick?

Good point.

 

[Irish52]

Admittedly, it's unlikely but I'd like to see Brady go to Tampa.

 

[sonomairishfan]

you can't blame brady for not winning the big games. last time i checked, there are more than just 1 player on a team. brady has been let down by other facets (normally defense) in the big games. to say that the loss is squarely on brady and that brady doesn't have the "it" factor is narrow-minded.

not once did i pin a loss on brady. read the post clearly. i do stand by the fact that brady hasn't won the big games.

 

[sonomairishfan]

Yeah, his numbers in big games is horrible...i mean look at the SC game last week, 3TD's no pics...what a waste!! I mean its a good thing our D really shuts people down...BENCH HIM in the bowl game, we dont need him ruining any chance we may have at winning.

all's i am saying is that he doesn't have too great of a record when games matter.

0 fer against USC
0 fer against BCS games. Oregon St/Ohio St

he has performed well in games but nothing to dominate a game. i just don't see how he can be compared to Montana.

not once did i say he was bad for the team. i just don't think he has that "it" that the great ones have.

 

[sonomairishfan]

Admittedly, it's unlikely but I'd like to see Brady go to Tampa.

i think he would fit well there. he and stovall could connect once again in the endzone.

 

[njuneardave]

why is it that "brady hasn't won the big game"? shouldn't you say that "notre dame hasn't won a big game with brady playing"? a QB needs help... and in the big games, notre dame has choked... not necessarily brady... but the whole team. i believe that brady DOES have the "it" factor... he just lacked the support in many cases. like someone brought up earlier... if the defense didn't give up the 4th and 9 against USC last year, brady would've been the biggest name in college football... but instead, now, he hasn't won the big game so he doesnt have the "it" factor. i disagree with you.

 

[jmg21]

Brady has been simply incredible the last 2 years when it comes down to last second drives at the end of close games. Someone posted his statistics in pressure situations this year and they were mind-boggling. MSU, Stanford, and USC last year / UCLA and MSU this year. He has shown incredible poise and skill in the face of pressure and driven his team to comebacks against all those opponents. Sure, he never beat USC - but almost nobody has in the last 4 years.

 

[njuneardave]

Brady has been simply incredible the last 2 years when it comes down to last second drives at the end of close games. Someone posted his statistics in pressure situations this year and they were mind-boggling. MSU, Stanford, and USC last year / UCLA and MSU this year. He has shown incredible poise and skill in the face of pressure and driven his team to comebacks against all those opponents. Sure, he never beat USC - but almost nobody has in the last 4 years.

i agree. brady is mr. dependable in clutch situations (especially the final drives before halftime this year). good point.

 

[reneg]

A lot of Raider hate, which I will try to ignore. (Life long Raider and ND fan) I think the biggest reason the Raiders will end up not taking Quinn is because of the salary cap mess they currently have, I doubt they could afford Quinn next season. Regardless of that Walter is still an unknown commodity and I would be surprised if Davis drafted QBs on the first day of the draft in back to back years. While many say the Raiders are a mess right now, the one thing no one mentioned is they have one hell of a defense. (Over their last 7 games they are only giving up 17 points per game and still managed only going 2-5 over that stretch.) Their o-line is terrible and they have no running game, I really see Oakland taking Adrian Peterson or another premier back.

My guess is it will finish out like this:

1) Arizona (2-9, ever sine the lost to Chicago on Monday night it seems like the players have given up on the season, I don't see Arizona winning another game.)
2) Detroit (2-9, tough schedule the rest of the way out with one winnable game vs Green Bay remaining.)
3) Houston (3-8, 3 winnable games remaining on their schedule against Tennessee, Oakland, and Cleveland.)
4) Oakland (2-9, the defense keeps them in about every game, but their offense has been horrid. One winnable game remaining vs Houston and they are capable of beating the NY Jets and St. Louis ((I think Oakland and Cleveland will finish with the same record, but Oakland holds the tie breaker over the two cause of a head to head loss.))
5) Cleveland (3-8, with 2 more potentially winnable games against Tampa/Houston.)

The picks:

1) Arizona - Joe Thomas OT (if they stay, but I really see them trading down, cause Thomas is a reach at 1. I would be surprised if they didn't address their OL early on the draft, but they could consider DEs Adams and Moses.)
2) Detroit - Brady Quinn QB (Millen has been ripped for previous draft blunders, I think he plays it safe this time and picks the best QB on the board.)
3) Houston - Calvin Johnson WR (Their defense is actually playing good this season and while they could go after Thomas if Arizona trades out of number 1, I see them getting a weapon along side Andre Johnson.)
4) Oakland - Adrian Peterson RB (The Raiders have not had an elite back since the late 80s - early 90s with Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen sharing time in the back field. The AFC West is loaded with great backs; LaDanian Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, and any back Denver decides to play behind their OL. With a strong running game, the Raiders could have been a .500 team with how great their defense is. However with Al Davis you never know, he could trade the pick for a QB or a stud on defense, but he will not trade down (he never does) as some have mentioned.)
5) Cleveland - Leon Hall CB (Cleveland is a team I don't know tons about, but from what I know I could definitely see them using some help at CB or potentially taking WR Dwayne Jarret or WR Jeff Samardizja here as they could use a weapon opposite Braylon Edwards.)

 

[Pinoy QB]

Love to see Quinn as a Raider, tuff @ss hell.

 

[irish24notredame]

I think he's a Lion. It mihgt be okay there because they have some targets to pass to.

 

[gboroirish]

i wouldnt like to him as a brown. i thought i would but with k2 and braylon constantly fighting with everyone that dosent seem like a good situation.

 

[Irishkid23]

please don't ever compare brady to joe montana. to say that he is two years ahead of him is crazy. joe won big games in college. he had that "it". brady has yet to prove that he has "it"

Weis siad "Brady has IT" Brady's team isn't quite as talented as Montana' team(s) (A/K/A Willingham's recruiting), and he has had 2 years of pro QB coaching from Weis. That puts him at the head of the class as far as the QB learning curve goes. Montana never had that kind of coaching at ND. Therefore, Brady has the knowledge advantage and he will win the big ones in the pros IF he has the talent to surround him as Montana had.

 

[A2McGowan]

Helloooooo Lions!! No doubt......unless they trade obviously.

 

[solo]

Helloooooo Lions!! No doubt......unless they trade obviously.

The Lions are in better shape at QB than both the Browns and the Raiders. It's hard to determine which team bewteen the Browns and Raiders needs a Qb more desparately. Both are incredibly bad teams with awful QBs 3 deep. But if Oakland has cap issues as someone else pointed out, then I see BQ being a Brown.

Even though Kitna/McNown aren't a dynamic duo, I think Kitna is sufficient in light of Detroit's other needs.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Drafting a media darling ND QB may put butts in the seats too. Does anyone see this as being a factor for some of these terrible teams? BQ is going to be highly marketable because of his name recognition and looks even before he proves anything on the field.

 

[guff]

If both the Raiders and Lions lose this week, the Lions will have the overall #1 pick based on strength (weakness) of schedule.

Kitna leads the league in turnovers and times sacked, Detroit's backups are guys who known only to their mothers and they sure as hell don't need to draft a WR.

Looks like Quinn will be a Lion.

The Detroit Lions are the NFL's answer to the Chicago Cubs.

 

[southbend62]

As God is my witness, Brady Quinn will go to Chicago and become a Bear. They will trade everything for Brady Quinn and then the Bear's will win the Superbowl for eternity.

 

[chasseur4]

The NFL??? Remember Jason White?

The NFL??? Remember Jason White?

Three years ago, Mark May was touting Jason White as the most talented athlete to ever touch a damn football.
Then came the Sugar Bowl, and Marcus Spears, Melvin Oliver and Chad Lavalais spent the evening tossing the so-called Superman around like a rag doll. Superman is now conspicuously absent from the ranks of starting NFL QB's.

I understand Mark May has done some oohing and aahing over Brady Quinn this year. After Glenn Dorsey, Ali Highsmith & Ricky Jean-Francois have spent the evening amusing themselves with the ND QB, maybe that highly-touted ND graduation rate will help BQ get a job somewhere.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Three years ago, Mark May was touting Jason White as the most talented athlete to ever touch a damn football.
Then came the Sugar Bowl, and Marcus Spears, Melvin Oliver and Chad Lavalais spent the evening tossing the so-called Superman around like a rag doll. Superman is now conspicuously absent from the ranks of starting NFL QB's.

I understand Mark May has done some oohing and aahing over Brady Quinn this year. After Glenn Dorsey, Ali Highsmith & Ricky Jean-Francois have spent the evening amusing themselves with the ND QB, maybe that highly-touted ND graduation rate will help BQ get a job somewhere.

Not even funny, just an insulting post that doesn't even make sense. Everyone knows May hates Quinn. He gave him an Over-Hyped Award for crying out loud. I guess I'd have a small penis complex too if my "star" QB Jamarcus Russell was ignored because he isn't really that good. Maybe his LSU degree(if he ever gets one) could get him a job selling oranges on the side of the road. He's Daunte Culpepper, only without the talent.

After many dignified posts and light ribbing, why have you now decided to be a dick troll?

 

[chasseur4]

Another Jason White?

Another Jason White?

Well, Mark May may have been the wrong choice to illustrate the HYPE that BQ has received, but the kid had better take a look at the Jason White story, and check to see that his grade transcripts are in order. His QB stats are about to take a plunge.

As for JR, Tiger fans' only concern is the possibility that he may go to the NFL draft after this season, rather than return for his senior year. No need to worry about Russell having to sell oranges. The big kid from Mobile is rolling along as an SEC Academic Honor Roll student, despite having the last school year interrupted when he allowed a dozen friends and relatives displaced by Katrina to live in his little off-campus apartment.

By the way, most Saints fans see Dante Culpepper as the guy without the talent.

 

[guff]

First, comparing Quinn to Jason White is complete idiocy.

Second, Quinn's draft status won't be affected by his performance in this game. Even if he goes 10 for 40 with 5 ints. This game doesn't matter. Quinn has all of the 'measurables' - size, strength, accuracy, sufficient mobilitly, intelligence etc.

Just as the outcome of this game is meaningless, so is Quinn's performance at this game. If the team at #1 needs a QB he's going #1.

And isn't being on the "SEC Academic Honor Roll" like being the smartest kid on the short bus

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Well, Mark May may have been the wrong choice to illustrate the HYPE that BQ has received, but the kid had better take a look at the Jason White story, and check to see that his grade transcripts are in order. His QB stats are about to take a plunge.

As for JR, Tiger fans' only concern is the possibility that he may go to the NFL draft after this season, rather than return for his senior year. No need to worry about Russell having to sell oranges. The big kid from Mobile is rolling along as an SEC Academic Honor Roll student, despite having the last school year interrupted when he allowed a dozen friends and relatives displaced by Katrina to live in his little off-campus apartment.

By the way, most Saints fans see Dante Culpepper as the guy without the talent.

And Saints fans know good football when they see it? Oh yeah, they have 1 year of experience with kind of good football.

Don't give JR a reach around just because he did something HE IS SUPPOSED TO DO by taking in friends and family who were displaced. Hey, how many Heisman votes & Maxwell votes did JR get? I must have missed him at both ceremonies.

If you honestly think Brady Quinn is another Jason White please get off this site. You're a cheap troll who's just trying to be a dick. Seriously, your so fucking smart that you are the ONLY person on the planet who thinks BQ is another Jason White. It's time for LSU and tOSU fans to finally come to grips with the fact that Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn is a better pro prospect than your guy and he will go higher in the draft then Jamarcus Russell & Troy Smith. You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. You just need to shut your mouth, pout and deal with it because that's reality and you know it. How's that taste? This isn't the ESPN board so stop being a fucking jerk before you get banned.

 

[nd1]

hey are you alright. Do you mental problems are something, because something has got to be wrong with you if you are comparing brady q. to jason w. Thats the stupidest thing that I think I ever heard on this board. Go back to espn please.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

hey are you alright. Do you mental problems are something, because something has got to be wrong with you if you are comparing brady q. to jason w. Thats the stupidest thing that I think I ever heard on this board. Go back to espn please.

The guy seemed alright when he first started posting here, now he has exposed himself as a douchebag hater.