DiNardo : Shame on ND

[Junkhead]

http://www.southbendtribune.com/app...NDSports02/612230398/-1/SPORTS/CAT=NDSports02

Sounds like sour grapes for not get hired here himself.

 

[NDOM]

Wow! What a fucking cock sucking prick. I just lost ALL respect for that man. Just another jealous Notre Dame hater to add to the list. Thats fine with me because the more people hate Notre Dame the more I like it. It takes a special person to be a Notre Dame fan and I just want to say that I'm proud of all of you guys that are with me that has stuck through the hard times and remained a fan. I have been a fan since 1987 and believe me when I say I have seen alot of hard times. Go Irish. Fuck off Dinardo the retardo.

 

[Aaronl]

hes a failure as a coach and now has to jockey a mic for espn radio. no wonder hes so bitter. LOL

 

[TexasDomer]

Regardless of how I disagree with his perceptions of the program, I'm not going to bash a fellow ND grad. He's entitled to his ill-informed, short-sighted, poorly argued point-of-view.

 

[irishlib]

He's a frustrated and bitter man.

 

[johnnd05]

This guy is covering the Sugar Bowl for ESPN? Unbelievable ...

Or not so unbelievable, I suppose.

 

[notdam4]

The thing that I don't understand is that he is a former Notre Dame player and a college football analyst, and he uses the same arguments that are used by some of my friends who know nothing about Notre Dame or college football. I know the Commander and Chief trophy is a popular line these days but come on....I never liked him when he was the Vandy coach and now I really hate him. Notre Dame graduate or not, you don't say things like that about your alma mater.

 

[A2McGowan]

Wow! What a fucking cock sucking prick. I just lost ALL respect for that man. Just another jealous Notre Dame hater to add to the list. Thats fine with me because the more people hate Notre Dame the more I like it. It takes a special person to be a Notre Dame fan and I just want to say that I'm proud of all of you guys that are with me that has stuck through the hard times and remained a fan. I have been a fan since 1987 and believe me when I say I have seen alot of hard times. Go Irish. Fuck off Dinardo the retardo.

He's not completely wrong......some of those points are very valid. Do you have any clue of the inner-workings of the school and how much that culture has changed in the last twenty years? I'm positive you don't and that Dinardo does. Your rant is silly......

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

What a jerk.

 

[GoshenGipper]

Do you have any clue of the inner-workings of the school and how much that culture has changed in the last twenty years? I'm positive you don't and that Dinardo does. Your rant is silly......

I supose if we wanted to be like Stanford, Duke, Army, or Navy it wouldn't matter. It takes both winning and graduation rates at ND, and everyone involved with ND was tired of the mediocrity under Davie and Willingham.

I agree with most of you guys. He comes off like a bitter jerk, I wonder if we can disown him from the ND family after comments like that. He seems to fit right in with his other "in-laws" at ESPN. :countdown

 

[dth31]

I have nothing but respect for a fellow Domer however much I may disagree with him.

There is no question that our experience significantly shapes our perception of reality. While Gerry has had head coaching opportunities, I can barely imagine the stress he must have gone thru during his head coaching stops. Even at programs that are not typically Top 20 programs, there is pressure to win, and although I have no doubt Gerry conducted himself with honor and ran a good program, the lack of success on the field must have shaped his perception of what is fair and "right". I dare say, might I detect some hint of bitterness? If he were still at Vandy and had created a successful Top 20 program, would he feel the same?

I don't know Gerry personally, but he grew up in a time of rampant idealism. There is nothing wrong with idealism, but the world is rarely ideal. If we were to be indignant and disappointed every time we had to work in a less than ideal situation, we would be unhappy people, indeed.

It's easy to look back during times of trouble or at unhappy times and wistfully say "it was so much better then. I wish it were still like that". Such a qualitative word, "better". Was it "better" during Ara's time? Different? Sure. Better? I'm not so sure.

The world continues to move on and change. College football has dramatically changed since the 60's and early 70's. Notre Dame--the University and football--have changed. So what has changed? Personally, I like the fact that I can watch ND football "live" virtually every Saturday instead of watching the Lindsey Nelson highlights on Sunday after Mass. I like the fact that there are broader course offerings taught by a world-class faculty. I like the fact that Fr. Jenkins has a moral view and is not shy about sharing it. I also have no problem with the University paying a more competitive salary to ALL its faculty, even though I am literally paying for it, including the football coaches. But "competitive" is relative and should not be confused with "equal".

The world changes, and it is OK to change as long as the change is managed in a way that is consistent with our values. Notre Dame has changed and managed the change fantastically well, consistent with our values. Personally, I think the University deserves our praise for that, rather than our criticism. It is VERY difficult to do well.

 

[ShivaIrish]

Yeah, I can't really agree with DiNardo's reasoning here. From a purely fiscal standpoint, it makes sense to pay a successful coach more money than any sing professor--because he, Weis, probably brings more money in than any single professor. It was the BCS winnings from last year that helped pay for upgrades to academic facilities, after all.

DiNardo: "As an alumnus, I was always proud of the fact that it appeared Notre Dame kept football in perspective. You can't use graduation rate and academics as an argument that they have kept perspective, because when (former coach) Bob Davie got fired in 1999, he said, 'Well, we're doing well academically.' And the university told him, 'We take credit for that. Not you.'"

Bad reasoning here. Goshen Guy made the good point that ND is not like other good academic schools that have a football team, but pretty much suck (like Duke). Wanting, and striving, to be good in both does not negate the academic priorities and achievements of ND football (which it was just announced, the team got above a 3.0 for the semester again). The fact that the academic standards are higher for admittance, and the demands and achievements are there for academic success, speaks to the fact that the perspective is there. Just because ND wants a coach with success on and off the field does not mean anything is compromised. Why even have a team if you won't "Play to win the game?"

 

[Notre Dame Neighbor]

How can you trust DiNardo's opinion when he admits that some of it is based on rumor? He's defending his coaching comrades and not looking at the facts. If you can't perform on the field you will not win consistently. If you cannot win consistently you can't be the coach at ND. There's absolutely no reason in the world why ND shouldn't win with consistency. To say that things aren't like they were when Ara was there? Times change, and ND needs to flow with change without selling its soul. You cannot expect the head football coach to earn as much as a professor anymore. Nor should they. I don't think that means they've lost perspective. The demands on the head football coach are far and away more demanding than a professor. Perhaps I'm wrong, but with all due respect I can't imagine a prof putting up with that kind of pressure and putting in those hours. Kudos to ND for their use of football revenue for academics, for not cutting corners in the classroom, for requiring a degree in four years, and grad school after that, etc. I respect DiNardo for all the world but he's shooting from the hip, and out of perspective with the big picture.

 

[irish4life99]

Regardless of how I disagree with his perceptions of the program, I'm not going to bash a fellow ND grad. He's entitled to his ill-informed, short-sighted, poorly argued point-of-view.

Ok, I'll do it for you. WTF is his problem? I could of let it slide all the way up to the commander and cheif award. He's only short of being a complete template ND hating moron by not calling charlie fat or some cheeseburger joke.

There's more here than meets the eye. He's been slighted somehow by ND personally. No way does an all american alum go this low. He's as bad as a trator and should be shot on site.

 

[UpstateIrish]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't share his, but he's entitled to whatever he thinks. What I do have issues with is he says his opinion is shaped on rumors.

 

[goldenechoes]

He's dead to me.

 

[Fighting_Irish9]

So now an ND alumni and ex football player is just another ND hater because he agrees with many that ND is now far more focused on football than they used to be, and far more focused on a game than they ever planned on being during his time there.

He is probably right, if that makes ND bad or not then becomes the discussion, but ND has put a much larger focus on football than ever before...

#1 Look at the new athletic facility that was finished for Weis's first season
#2 Look at the size of Weis's contract compared to past coaches
#3 Look at the change in the rules for Early enrollement, it used to be all freshman had to come in at the same time, now due to football that has changed

ND has made some pretty big changes, you can debate all day if they are good or bad and IMO none seem to be bad but to act like nothing at ND has changed has to come from a desire to ignore the changes

 

[BestBIrish47]

Benedict Arnold Dinardo.........Et tu Dinardo, Et tu? He is entilted to his opinion the same way as a special needs child is entitiled to parenthoood!

 

[goldenechoes]

So now an ND alumni and ex football player is just another ND hater because he agrees with many that ND is now far more focused on football than they used to be, and far more focused on a game than they ever planned on being during his time there.

He is probably right, if that makes ND bad or not then becomes the discussion, but ND has put a much larger focus on football than ever before...

#1 Look at the new athletic facility that was finished for Weis's first season
#2 Look at the size of Weis's contract compared to past coaches
#3 Look at the change in the rules for Early enrollement, it used to be all freshman had to come in at the same time, now due to football that has changed

ND has made some pretty big changes, you can debate all day if they are good or bad and IMO none seem to be bad but to act like nothing at ND has changed has to come from a desire to ignore the changes

You cant see the bad mouthing he was doing because you're as much of a hater and fan pretender as he is 9.

 

[Seymore]

I supose if we wanted to be like Stanford, Duke, Army, or Navy it wouldn't matter. It takes both winning and graduation rates at ND, and everyone involved with ND was tired of the mediocrity under Davie and Willingham.

I agree with most of you guys. He comes off like a bitter jerk, I wonder if we can disown him from the ND family after comments like that. He seems to fit right in with his other "in-laws" at ESPN. :countdown

I'm a firm believer in retaliation when under fire, that being said, sounds like Dinardo's still pissed off about not being offered the coaching job when we were looking around. This cat was part of a National Championship team under Parseghian in 73, where's his loyalty to ND ? The "inner-workings" of ND have nothing to do with some bitter coach reject popping off at the mouth about "signature wins". Basically, what this boils down to is Gerry's chicken shit way of saying he's jealous of Charlie Weis, and what he's accomplishing at ND. You see, we weren't in the market for a Vanderbilt coach with a .432 winning percentage, and when given the opportunity to take over the LSU job, he mustered a 32-24-1 overall record, with two half ass seasons in a row, ending his gig with the Tigers. He then tried the XFL and went on to IU where he failed miserably !

He's bitter for good reason, he's a reject ! Nobody that played under Ara should ever portray themselves' as such, let alone degrade the morals of ND, especially when your entire coaching career has been a flop ! Let him cry, most everyone knows he is,has, and always will be a whiner ! I bet he's on the telephone right now with Chandra Johnson !

 

[NDOM]

He's not completely wrong......some of those points are very valid. Do you have any clue of the inner-workings of the school and how much that culture has changed in the last twenty years? I'm positive you don't and that Dinardo does. Your rant is silly......

Blah blah blah. What do you know about it? explain that to me mr know it all?????

 

[TexasDomer]

I know that he is right about the rule that the head coach could not make more than the highest-paid professor, but he fails to remember that he likely made more at IU than the highest-paid profs there. The question is whether such a rule would enable Notre Dame to be competitive in this day and age. We don't run the single-wing with the Rockne shift anymore, either.

He makes innuendos about Weis "wanting" a pay raise and extension, when it's clear that the university did what it did because other schools were using Weis' NFL pedigree against ND in recruiting.

My problem with Gerry is that he didn't keep his comments "in the family." If he had these issues, as an alumnus, he should have raised them with White, Fr. Jenkins or Dr. Affleck-Graves, rather than airing them in the media. How would he have felt if a prominent Commodore, Tiger or Hoosier alumnus had done the same thing?

 

[Seymore]

I know that he is right about the rule that the head coach could not make more than the highest-paid professor, but he fails to remember that he likely made more at IU than the highest-paid profs there. The question is whether such a rule would enable Notre Dame to be competitive in this day and age. We don't run the single-wing with the Rockne shift anymore, either.

He makes innuendos about Weis "wanting" a pay raise and extension, when it's clear that the university did what it did because other schools were using Weis' NFL pedigree against ND in recruiting.

My problem with Gerry is that he didn't keep his comments "in the family." If he had these issues, as an alumnus, he should have raised them with White, Fr. Jenkins or Dr. Affleck-Graves, rather than airing them in the media. How would he have felt if a prominent Commodore, Tiger or Hoosier alumnus had done the same thing?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't IU still paying Dinardo for what he couldn't do ?

 

[He Gawn]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't IU still paying Dinardo for what he couldn't do ?

Correct, and now Coach Hep is making him look like a moron coaching virtually the same players to better records.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

It's painfully obvious this is just sour grapes. To expect ND to act EXACTLY as they did in 1973 is ridiculous. He has no gripe about the grad rates because there is nothing to gripe about. His issue is Weis getting paid big $$$. Well, ND didn't have the NBC/BCS contracts in Ara's day either, so paying the newer coaches a little extra coin for bringing the school that new income should be completely fine with anyone. He's just upset because he's essentially failed at eveything he's done since he won the NC in 73.

 

[TexasDomer]

Except, of course, beat us in the Independence Bowl a few years back.

 

[A2McGowan]

Blah blah blah. What do you know about it? explain that to me mr know it all?????

Sorry pal, that's just the way it is. I just do. It's not so much you disliking Dinardo......that's fine......it's the incredibly juvenile terms/words you used to describe him. Can someone not have an objective view of Du Lac? Especially someone who has an extensive history with the university? Your rant was just vulgar and ignorant. He's not jealous about the coaching position, he was just stating concerns and dislikes of the current admin. choices. Half of the players who have played at ND feel the same way. Would you refer to them as "cocksuckers" and ahem, "retards". I highly doubt it.......

 

[leppycole]

This is how much of an ass kisser DiNardo is. It is clear that the relationship between ABC/ESPN and NBC has the majority of ESPN Stormtroopers bashing ND at all cost. Here this former ND Star feels the need to join the DARK SIDE!! I cannot wait until this guy wakes up and realizes that he is now ESPN's Bitch. Wait till the story breaks when DiNardo is caught receiving the Jersey Shocker from Mark May.

 

[irish4life99]

"GIBSON, Circuit Judge. Gerry DiNardo resigned as Vanderbilt's head football coach to become the head football coach for Louisiana State University. As a result, Vanderbilt University brought this breach of contract action. The district court entered summary judgment for Vanderbilt, awarding $281,886.43 pursuant to a damage provision in DiNardo's employment contract with Vanderbilt. DiNardo appeals, arguing that the district court erred in concluding: 1) that the contract provision was an enforceable..."

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=6th&navby=case&no=990135p

So were supposed to let this DiNerdo be ND's moral compass? Really, Vandy has to sue him to get the money he stold from them in the breach of contract. Then he appeals it. What kind of nerve does this take? He should never be allowed to step foot on campus. His name should be stricken from the books at ND and he should be shunned and the name DiNerdo never uttered by any ND staff, students, or alum again. I would say that DiNerdo did'nt just burn that bridge, but place massive amounts of explosives and blew it to smitherines!

BTW wasn't Willingham and Davie were paid more than any professor?

 

[rontdtarchala]

I want to comment but havn't had the time to read up on what was said I promise I will...I can say this though...as stated I have been a ravonouse fan since 1965 and I have been in more battles with ND haters than I care to admit so I will more than likely be po'd....