Another reason to be happy that the Irish didn't sign...

[RichardRiot]

Beck Campbell (errr I mean Mitch Mustain) last year. That woman is now raising some stink about the direction of the Arkansas program. Let's see, they: are currently ranked #12?; played for the SEC championship; shit-stomped Auburn; etc.

And her and some other parents are worried about the program's direction. Maybe she is concerned about Mitch losing the starter's role. If I'm fighting for a starting position in Div-1 football, and my MOM starts bitching at the coach - I start thinking its time to put her in a 'home'.

 

[Satans Little Helper]

Beck Campbell (errr I mean Mitch Mustain) last year. That woman is now raising some stink about the direction of the Arkansas program. Let's see, they: are currently ranked #12?; played for the SEC championship; shit-stomped Auburn; etc.

And her and some other parents are worried about the program's direction. Maybe she is concerned about Mitch losing the starter's role. If I'm fighting for a starting position in Div-1 football, and my MOM starts bitching at the coach - I start thinking its time to put her in a 'home'.

Im sure Nuttjob gave her all she could handle about PT and #1 QB to get the kid and for him to be benched and have the RB throwing all the TDs must be a sore spot.

Its tough to be a freshmen starter in the SEC, look at Stafford this year.

 

[brownkj002]

Beck Campbell (errr I mean Mitch Mustain) last year. That woman is now raising some stink about the direction of the Arkansas program. Let's see, they: are currently ranked #12?; played for the SEC championship; shit-stomped Auburn; etc.

And her and some other parents are worried about the program's direction. Maybe she is concerned about Mitch losing the starter's role. If I'm fighting for a starting position in Div-1 football, and my MOM starts bitching at the coach - I start thinking its time to put her in a 'home'.

The other parents involved were B. Cleveland and D. Williams both freshman receivers who played on Mustains HS team. I guess they are pissed because their old HS coach(name slips my mind) is the new OC. They were told that he was going to have full control of the O but he hasn't got that yet from Nutt.

 

[njuneardave]

gus malzahn.


and one of the WR's is leaving

 

[nd1]

there have been rumors that mustain is going to transfer. Don't really know where or anything but heard something about this the other day.

 

[Mattmags]

here is the article explainign this...

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Sports/175675/

 

[Mattmags]

here is the article explaining this...

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Sports/175675/[/QUOTE]

 

[scooper]

This is a freakin mess. If these parents garner any kind of sympathy from Arkansas fans over this after Nutt's running game led them to a 10-3 season and western conference title, those fans are looney.

The AD is looney for giving those parents an audience in the first place. I remember Charlie once saying he would talk to players' parents about anything but football.

I used to coach junior high football. This was the kind of move PTA moms would pull.

 

[njuneardave]

talk about being self-centered. arkansas was a nobody for the past decade... and all of a sudden, they take the SEC west and parents are complaining that their kid didn't get enough PT?


news flash: coach did what worked, and your kid was not part of the recipe. your kid is not superman. darren mcfadden is.

 

[Pete]

First this is only one side of the story. The parents also said that it wasn't about playing time. From what we know, imo, it looks like Nutt, who was coming off two terrible seasons and who need to save his job, told the Springdale kids everything that they wanted to hear. He was forced to hire their high school coach, told the kids that they would use his offense, and when they don't he looks like a liar. I know that coaches tell kids things all the time to get them to go to their school, but to completely lie about what offense your going to run is wrong. I just wonder where these kids are going to transfer to b/c I don't think that Williams is the only who will end up leaving.

 

[mschla]

He'll transfer to Illinois to play for the fighting Zookers. I'm sure Ronny boy would promise him whatever the hell he wants.

 

[FleaFlicker]

First this is only one side of the story. The parents also said that it wasn't about playing time. From what we know, imo, it looks like Nutt, who was coming off two terrible seasons and who need to save his job, told the Springdale kids everything that they wanted to hear. He was forced to hire their high school coach, told the kids that they would use his offense, and when they don't he looks like a liar. I know that coaches tell kids things all the time to get them to go to their school, but to completely lie about what offense your going to run is wrong. I just wonder where these kids are going to transfer to b/c I don't think that Williams is the only who will end up leaving.

To assume that it is as simple as Nutt lying about everything, is a bit off IMO.

Look at Mustain's numbers, he thre almost as many INT's as TD's this year.

If I am a coach, and I have superman in the backfield, I'm not going to try to keep feeding the ball to a freshman that hasn't done much of anything. I'm going to use what works. And this year, McFadden was a better receiver/QB/RB than his entire team.

Nutt job is to win FB games, I seriously doubt that, at the beginning of the year, his intention was to have McFadden do everything in his offense.

But hey, if I have a RB that is ripping the country's best defenses for 6+ yds a rush, and simply can't be stopped in most games, I'm going to give him the ball all day over a true freshman QB that simply isn't getting the same production that the running game is getting.

PS. I graduated from Xavier, Shamrock, go Muskies

 

[njuneardave]

flea,

the fact of the matter is that nutt told the parents that their kids would be running the spread gus malzahn offense and taht malzahn would have complete, entire control of the offense. it has nothing to do w/ mustain. fact is, malzahn NEVER had control of the offense. it was all lip service.

 

[nd1]

I can see what flea is saying. I'm just saying you can't blame these parents for going over his head.

 

[FleaFlicker]

flea,

the fact of the matter is that nutt told the parents that their kids would be running the spread gus malzahn offense and taht malzahn would have complete, entire control of the offense. it has nothing to do w/ mustain. fact is, malzahn NEVER had control of the offense. it was all lip service.

I'm curious what you would do in a similar situation. I know what would be most important to me, and that is winning football games.

Simply put, Nutt's job depends on winning, like it or not.

If my Offensive Coordinator has little to no experience running a run-oriented offense, and I do... along with the fact that my team is running the ball MUCH more effectively than passing the ball. And because of that, we are winning games. Then I will do what I need to in order to win each game.

I don't think Nutt was intentionally misleading the kids and the OC all along, I think he is/was simply using what worked best, what would give his team the best chance to win. There is nothing saying that his intention was always to use McFadden in every way possible, and minimize the passing. It just so happened that it worked out that way.

For instance, let's use ND as an example of the opposite.

If I am Charlie Weis, and I am recruiting running backs, and telling them that they will get alot of carries, and I plan on utilizing them a lot, I could be telling the total truth.

But let's say the first few games are played and we average 2 yds per running play, and 9 yards per passing play. I am going to be passing the ball a lot more than running the ball.

That RB might get pissed off because we aren't running the ball nearly as much as we said we would. But it comes down to this... the run isn't working as well. And I'm not going to be completely stubborn and lose games simply to get my RB hiss carries, I am going to call the plays that we need to win, and in this little scenario, that will be mostly passing plays.

Will I feel bad about that? No. I'll try to improve the running game in practice, but utilize the pass much more in the actual games. Once the two get on the same level, I'll try to utilize both more evenly.

I'm sure Nutt is handling it the same way. He has to acknowlege that his passing game needs to get better, and I'm sure he'll work on it. I seriously doubt that he intends to always have McFadden & company get 75%+ on the plays. SEC defenses will adjust to that, and it will be less effective than it was this year.

 

[nd1]

then why did he hire him to start with unless it was to get the kids to come to his scool.

 

[FleaFlicker]

then why did he hire him to start with unless it was to get the kids to come to his scool.

I'm sure that had a lot to do with getting them there. But it is also perfectly reasonable to believe that Nutt seriously intended on shifting to that offense eventually. But it generally takes more than just one off-season to get there.

Actually, if you look at the statistics, Arkansas has a bit of a better passing offense this year, then they did last year. That's an improvement. They passed for around the same amount of times, but averaged almost two more yards per attempt, over last year.

At the same time, they are averaging 6 yards a carry, with considerably less turnovers through fumbles than interceptions (this year). I'd be running al the time too.

But I agree that it was a bit pre-emptive, and a bit of a cheap tactic to hire their old coach, if they wouldn't give his offense a more concerted effort. We'll see come next year, if they have improved the passing game a lot, then Nutt would have kept his word. If they still run more than twice as often as they pass, then he will have simply told the kids what they wanted to hear.

 

[sonomairishfan]

sounds like the travel hockey team i used to coach. the parents hardly let the kids have any fun. what a bunch of morons.

 

[RichardRiot]

I can see what flea is saying. I'm just saying you can't blame these parents for going over his head.

I can!

If I'm one of these players and I find out that Mommy is talking to the AD about the offensive system, MOM is not getting anymore game passes from me. I would be absolutely LIVID as a player, even if they do have some validity to the argument. As a player, this is not going to help your 'rep' whether you stay or whether you go to a new school.

You think that maybe the impact of 4 freshmen on a team that went 4-7 last year, would be minimal? If you have a back like Darren Mc, you might want to give him reps until he is stopped by a d-fence? And that the move to a 'spread' attack might need to be an evolution rather than a revolution?