Quinn wins Maxwell

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Paisan265

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I don't know if any of you ever check out a Notre Dame blog called Kelly Green, but it usually has some funny rants about current event in ND football. He has a nice little qoute on why these awards are so confusing.

http://kgreen.blogspot.com/
 

LOVEMYIRISH

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Let me just say that I am very happy for Brady and the honor that he recieved. I hope he is as successful as he was in college as he is the pros.

I love how he gets BEST PLAYER and Smith gets BEST QB...yet Smith is favored for Heisman. Go figure.
 
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I'm enjoying seeing how out of their mind infuriated haters are. Not just tOSU fans, but virtually all other schools too. I'm amazed people get this irate over the Maxwell Award.
 

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I found that very odd myself.

How does that work?

Different voters.

Check out this little snippet:
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According to the Mississippi Sun Herald, Reggie Bush did not have Brady Quinn on his ballot, but did vote Troy Smith #1 and Darren McFadden #2. His reasoning for not voting for Quinn?

When asked about Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn calling him after Saturday’s ceremony to complain, Bush responded by saying, “You have to have the big numbers and lead your team to wins in big games or a chance at the national championship.”

Maybe what Bush meant to say was, “you need to push your team to big wins in big games.”

Of course, Bush also could be upset that Brady might get drafted #1 overall, and not #2 behind some defensive end from North Carolina State…

And for the Ohio State fans out there who we know are reading Bush also offered this up in the same report.

“There was nobody who really had that standout season”

Did Bush watch any football this year? Smith, Quinn, and McFadden all had huge years. Not to mention some damn fine players who won’t be in New York Saturday like Steve Slaton and Ray Rice. Last I checked, all five of these players had their teams in the top 5 at some point in the season, but I guess that doesn’t qualify as giving their teams a chance at the national championship.

And just for fun… according to ESPN’s profile of Steve Slaton, the sophomore running back is projected to run for 1,877 yards and 19 (17 rushing, 2 receiving) touchdowns - both of which top Bush’s 1,740 yards and 18 (16 rushing, 2 receiving) touchdowns from a year ago.

I know, I know, Bush had more receiving yards and the returns and all that, but the fact that you can find a running back who wasn’t even invited to New York as a finalist with more touchdowns and yards than last year’s winner makes a statement like “nobody who really had that standout season” seem just a bit asinine
 
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This is the 2nd year in a row they have chosen a different player than the Heisman. Has this happened more often than that.

Historically, there's been a reasonable overlap in winners between the two awards. But that's changed for some reason since the new millennium.

Here are the last 6 winners for the Maxwell
2005 - Vince Young (2nd in Heisman voting)
2004 - Jason White (3rd)
2003 - Eli Manning (3rd)
2002 - Larry Johnson (3rd)
2001 - Ken Dorsey (3rd)
2000 - Drew Brees (3rd)
 

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Troy Smith proved tonight that he deserves to be respected. Sure none of us think he's as good as Brady but he's a great player and a good kid. Gotta love the way he handled himself tonight and even shouted Brady out as being classy.

Good kids in the amature ranks in college athletics do not take money or cell phones from boosters.

I wish that ESPN would adopt him already.
 

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I agree. He says things which he thinks might be funny but are usually inappropriate.
He's got no mental filterand comes off as arrogant.

That was some of the worst jounalism/sports anchoring/interviewing I have ever seen. After Saturday and the NFL draft we will not have to watch ESPN suck-off Troy Smith any longer.
 

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Different voters.

Check out this little snippet:
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According to the Mississippi Sun Herald, Reggie Bush did not have Brady Quinn on his ballot, but did vote Troy Smith #1 and Darren McFadden #2. His reasoning for not voting for Quinn?

When asked about Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn calling him after Saturday’s ceremony to complain, Bush responded by saying, “You have to have the big numbers and lead your team to wins in big games or a chance at the national championship.”

Maybe what Bush meant to say was, “you need to push your team to big wins in big games.”

Of course, Bush also could be upset that Brady might get drafted #1 overall, and not #2 behind some defensive end from North Carolina State…

And for the Ohio State fans out there who we know are reading Bush also offered this up in the same report.

“There was nobody who really had that standout season”

Did Bush watch any football this year? Smith, Quinn, and McFadden all had huge years. Not to mention some damn fine players who won’t be in New York Saturday like Steve Slaton and Ray Rice. Last I checked, all five of these players had their teams in the top 5 at some point in the season, but I guess that doesn’t qualify as giving their teams a chance at the national championship.

And just for fun… according to ESPN’s profile of Steve Slaton, the sophomore running back is projected to run for 1,877 yards and 19 (17 rushing, 2 receiving) touchdowns - both of which top Bush’s 1,740 yards and 18 (16 rushing, 2 receiving) touchdowns from a year ago.

I know, I know, Bush had more receiving yards and the returns and all that, but the fact that you can find a running back who wasn’t even invited to New York as a finalist with more touchdowns and yards than last year’s winner makes a statement like “nobody who really had that standout season” seem just a bit asinine

And don't forget, you have to get an agent to pay your parents rent while you are still eligible to play. What a jackass!
 
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I just wrote this on another forum, and thought it might be a valid point when identifying Quinn vs. Smith.


Iggytaylor04 said:
tnirish said:
goal05 said:
PLAYACTIONGODEEP said:
The only logical reason I can imagine that Quinn was selected over Smith for this award is they felt he was more valuable to his team. You take Troy Smith away from Ohio State and they are still a very good team....you take Brady Quinn away from Notre Dame and they are a mediocre team at best.

They already are a mediocre team with Quinn
I wish ND played WVU this year.

First off you are lucky ND didn't have to play WVU as they would run over that teriible russh defense that Notre Dame has. (50th in the country) Slaton and White would make the ND defense look more pourous then a coral reif. Yes quinn might throw for 3 TDS but that only accounts for 21 points would suspect WVU to hang 40on the Irish.

Also about this Quinn vs. Smith in college who is better, I bet if you ask loyd carr who is the better overall quaterback between the two of them for the college level i am 100% he would say Troy Smith (I am not talking about NFL prospect here, I am talking college). Just something for you to think about.

How many times do people have to say it for everyone to understand.

1. One game does not make one QB better than another. Quinn played much better against Penn State, then Smith did, but both teams won, which is what is important.

If OSU gives up 30 points to Penn State in that game, and Troy Smith plays exactly the same, then people would say he played a bad game, and it would be a black mark on his Heisman campaign. See my point?

Just like if ND would have held UM to 20 points in that game, and ND wins 21-20... then no one would say that game ended Quinn's Heisman chances, because they still won.

So just imagine those two events happening, both of them including absolutely NO change in the actual play of either QB. But rather, the play of their individual teams. Then who do you think gets the Heisman?

I'm not sure, but I DO know that the race would be dramatically closer than it is now.
 
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jerseyborn1971

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You're right. I still don't see what the team's record has to do with individual awards. How come the Boise St QB isn't up for the Heisman?
 
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ha. awesome - was screaming so loud - i for sure thought Smith was going to win it. Brady is awresome.
 
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Congrats Brady......if only the O line could have blocked better he could have won the Heisman also.
 
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Don't forget defense

Don't forget defense

Nd's offense did not get as many possessions as they could up with the terrible D.
 
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jerseyborn1971

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The d was no worse than last year. I think the clock rule eliminating so many possessions each game hurt his numbers as well.
 

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Congrats to BQ, he will be missed. I hope he somehow ends up on the Bears to replace pathetic Rex.
 
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