Who Deserves to to play O$U for the NC?

[wahoo]

Florida deserves the right to get smoked by OSU, michigan had their shot and came up short.

 

[Freeman Ara]

I agree UM is the second best team, but if michigan were to win the nat'l championship game it would be unfar to OSU because they already beat UM

Personally I think UM is the second best team and deserves the rematch. If UM does win the rematch then as disappointing as it seems I think we get a split national title, which to me defeats the purpose of the BCS in the first place, but I digress.

 

[bc525]

I agree totally with bc525 aka "Genius"

I make no official claim to the avitar....it's more of a sign to how much I love Guinness!!! Which I do argue makes me a genius....or at least the fact that consuming it in mass quantities makes me feel smarter....LOL

 

[Freeman Ara]

I make no official claim to the avitar....it's more of a sign to how much I love Guinness!!! Which I do argue makes me a genius....or at least the fact that consuming it in mass quantities makes me feel smarter....LOL

Would you say drinking Guinness makes you......BRILLIANT!!

 

[johnnd05]

All you idiots who voted for Michigan after complaining that we deserved to get in over them despite losing to them by a billion (or whatever) on our home field are, well, idiots. Florida had a better season than anyone else accept UM, who lost to OSU in the last week of the season, and that's that.

Added bonus: it will be great to see Urban get steamrolled by Smith and Co. (617 yards, anyone)?

 

[tedwick]

All you idiots who voted for Michigan after complaining that we deserved to get in over them despite losing to them by a billion (or whatever) on our home field are, well, idiots. Florida had a better season than anyone else accept UM, who lost to OSU in the last week of the season, and that's that.

Added bonus: it will be great to see Urban get steamrolled by Smith and Co. (617 yards, anyone)?

Where on the timeline are you talking? Because, had ND beat USC and UM lost to OSU, then there would have been an argument for a 1-loss ND team that had beaten the ACC and Pac10 champs. Had ND beat USC, ND's SOS would have been tougher than UM's, and pollsters sometimes forgive early losses.

There was an argument for ND over UM then, just as there's one for Florida over UM now. Not saying it was terribly strong, but it was there.

After that... what's your point? It seems that UM>FL is the general consensus on the board, and the only issue with UM-OSU is that it would be a rematch. Not sure what you're adding except calling a bunch of people idiots that at worst deserve to be called homers.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Ok, the SEC Championship is all but over, so in your opinion who deserves to play against O$U in the BCS Championship game and why?

Michigan. They are the #2 team.

They have NOT gotten their shot...that's a myth.

The NC is #1 vs #2 on a Neutral Field.

That game has NOT been played yet.

The #1 and #2 teams are OSU and UM.

They should play again...it's that simple.

 

[BGIF]

Whether they have played before or not is immaterial. The BCS founding principle was #1 plays #2 for the Title.

If Michigan is #2 tomorrow (I know they are before the shenanigans start) then they get the shot.

 

[zahmbie09]

Florida deserves their shot at Ohio State. Michigan had theirs in Columbus. They play in the same conference, in a non-playoff setup, Michigan should not play tOSU because a team that didn't win their conference doesn't deserve a shot at a national championship. Nebraska is not a good example a few years back look how that game turned out. Besides, its not fair that Ohio State has to beat Michigan twice to win the NC while Michigan would only have to beat them once. There is a reason ESPN hyped that game up as Judgment Day...the winner would go on to play for the NC not the loser.

 

[BGIF]

If the BCS didn't want a possible rematch they'd have a rule prohibiting it.

Now what about conference that have two divisions and the winners of those two divisions split the regular season game and the Conference Championship Game. The Winner of the Championship Game may be have been in the weaker division and may have more than 1 loss but they would get the guaranteed Conference Champion slot while the loser in that game may have only one loss and be the actual #1 or #2 team in the nation.

It cuts both ways.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Florida deserves their shot at Ohio State. Michigan had theirs in Columbus. They play in the same conference, in a non-playoff setup, Michigan should not play tOSU because a team that didn't win their conference doesn't deserve a shot at a national championship.

That's a load of crap.

The BCS says #1 vs #2.

It does not talk about conference champs, or rematches, blah blah...

If Florida jumps Michigan it's proof that the voters have no integrity.

 

[BGIF]

That's a load of crap.

The BCS says #1 vs #2.

It does not talk about conference champs, or rematches, blah blah...

If Florida jumps Michigan it's proof that the voters have no integrity.

Pollsters with integrity.

An oxymoron.

 

[maison bleu]

Fucking U$C Condoms. See what a mess they caused?

All of you who think O$U will wax Florida, consider this. The U$ele$$ Nut$ have a seven week layoff between Michigan and the NC game. The strength of their team is the offense, and an offense can get awfully rusty in that much time. Defenses will be less effected.

Plus, the $uck-Is will have to overcome the Heisman jinx.

So you read it here first. O$U will lose, no matter whether they play Michigan or the Gaytors.

 

[Vince Young]

Michigan. They are the #2 team.

They have NOT gotten their shot...that's a myth.

Have to disagree with you there. As a wise person once said, "If your chances of winning the game hinge on a successful onside-kick attempt, the game wasn't really that close."

In my mind, Michigan had their chance at Ohio State. They lost. It's Florida's turn.

Or we could just go with this scenario, I suppose...

"Coach Tressel? Hi, we're from the BCS. Okay, here's the deal. The big season-ending game against Michigan is tomorrow, but before you play, we just wanted to let you know that we're changing the championship rules this year. In order to win the national championship, you'll have to beat Michigan twice in a row. If you win the first one but lose the second one, Michigan gets the national title. Winning tomorrow guarantees you nothing except that you get to play Michigan again. Sound good to you, Jim?"

 

[johnnd05]

Where on the timeline are you talking? Because, had ND beat USC and UM lost to OSU, then there would have been an argument for a 1-loss ND team that had beaten the ACC and Pac10 champs. Had ND beat USC, ND's SOS would have been tougher than UM's, and pollsters sometimes forgive early losses.

There was an argument for ND over UM then, just as there's one for Florida over UM now. Not saying it was terribly strong, but it was there.

After that... what's your point? It seems that UM>FL is the general consensus on the board, and the only issue with UM-OSU is that it would be a rematch. Not sure what you're adding except calling a bunch of people idiots that at worst deserve to be called homers.

That's exactly the timeline I'm talking about. And I'm saying that if that argument was good enough for us, it's good enough for Florida.

Homers are people who think their team is better than it is. What I had in mind with "idiots" -- sorry if I offended anyone, of course -- are people who make "rational" arguments (e.g. there shouldn't be a rematch, early-season losses matter less than late-season ones, you shouldn't get in if you don't win your conference) in support of one team and refuse to recognize that the same considerations apply across the board.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Have to disagree with you there. As a wise person once said, "If your chances of winning the game hinge on a successful onside-kick attempt, the game wasn't really that close."

In my mind, Michigan had their chance at Ohio State. They lost. It's Florida's turn.

Or we could just go with this scenario, I suppose...

"Coach Tressel? Hi, we're from the BCS. Okay, here's the deal. The big season-ending game against Michigan is tomorrow, but before you play, we just wanted to let you know that we're changing the championship rules this year. In order to win the national championship, you'll have to beat Michigan twice in a row. If you win the first one but lose the second one, Michigan gets the national title. Winning tomorrow guarantees you nothing except that you get to play Michigan again. Sound good to you, Jim?"

No rules were changed...

The BCS states #1 plays #2. If that means a rematch so be it.

There are NO RULES against rematches, it could happen ANY YEAR.

Michigan never had a shot at the #1 team on a neutral field. It's that simple. If they are still #2, then they should play the #1 team in the NC.

It does not matter whether they have played before or not...

 

[Vince Young]

If they are still #2, then they should play the #1 team in the NC.

If Michigan is still #2, then they WILL play the #1 team in the NC.

But if I had a ballot, Florida would be #2. See above.

 

[tedwick]

If Michigan is still #2, then they WILL play the #1 team in the NC.

But if I had a ballot, Florida would be #2. See above.

but your reasoning on why florida is #2 is that michigan already had their shot at OSU, and that it's unfair to OSU to play Michigan again. Basically, what you're saying is that Florida is better than Michigan because there shouldn't be a rematch, which doesn't really work. I mean, there's an argument for Florida playing in the National Championship game, but "there shouldn't be a rematch" is not it.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

but your reasoning on why florida is #2 is that michigan already had their shot at OSU, and that it's unfair to OSU to play Michigan again. Basically, what you're saying is that Florida is better than Michigan because there shouldn't be a rematch, which doesn't really work. I mean, there's an argument for Florida playing in the National Championship game, but "there shouldn't be a rematch" is not it.

EXACTLY.

If Florida is BETTER than rank them as such.

If you don't like the idea of a rematch, get the rules changed...don't punish the 2nd best team in the country for your own personal bias.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

Please insert 'Notre Dame' there.