If one more person says fire Minter....

[KMac151993]

I will go crazy. Watching that game last night I saw a few things, all bad. First off what happened to ND's swagger, those kids all looked like they could care less what happened absolutly 0 emotion. Secondly you can't ask any more of a defense that gives you 3 possessions in SC territory in the 2nd qrt, yet you only come away with 7 points, why should the defense play hard after that? Everyone calls Weis a robot...well he is, and robot's can't make adjustments and change things up. His play calling last night was down right terrible at sometimes. Minter is not the problem the overall attitude and coaching is the problem. Weis is a brillant coach who knows offense better then anyone alive but he has to learn that these are 18-21 year old kids not paid professionals....until ND gets their swagger back this team will not win a title. But please stop blamming Coach Minter.

 

[ACamp1900]

Fire Minter? where do you get that notion?

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

Mire Finter

 

[ACamp1900]

In regards to Weis... I see you to a degree, for instance... WTF was up with the option call on third down...? other than that I can't say much... I'm still working on my first Super Bowl ring... it should take me a few years to catch him and until I do...

 

[ACamp1900]

Mire Finter

lol... predictability of inevitability

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I will go crazy. Watching that game last night I saw a few things, all bad. First off what happened to ND's swagger, those kids all looked like they could care less what happened absolutly 0 emotion. Secondly you can't ask any more of a defense that gives you 3 possessions in SC territory in the 2nd qrt, yet you only come away with 7 points, why should the defense play hard after that? Everyone calls Weis a robot...well he is, and robot's can't make adjustments and change things up. His play calling last night was down right terrible at sometimes. Minter is not the problem the overall attitude and coaching is the problem. Weis is a brillant coach who knows offense better then anyone alive but he has to learn that these are 18-21 year old kids not paid professionals....until ND gets their swagger back this team will not win a title. But please stop blamming Coach Minter.

I fully agree. You can only make so much out of so little...

 

[ACamp1900]

OT...

hey LovemyIrish? how do you get the clover on your ID under the ND?

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

OT...

hey LovemyIrish? how do you get the clover on your ID under the ND?

vbPlaza - gifts (although it was given to me...)

 

[ACamp1900]

vbPlaza - gifts (although it was given to me...)

thank you

 

[NDOM]

I will go crazy. Watching that game last night I saw a few things, all bad. First off what happened to ND's swagger, those kids all looked like they could care less what happened absolutly 0 emotion. Secondly you can't ask any more of a defense that gives you 3 possessions in SC territory in the 2nd qrt, yet you only come away with 7 points, why should the defense play hard after that? Everyone calls Weis a robot...well he is, and robot's can't make adjustments and change things up. His play calling last night was down right terrible at sometimes. Minter is not the problem the overall attitude and coaching is the problem. Weis is a brillant coach who knows offense better then anyone alive but he has to learn that these are 18-21 year old kids not paid professionals....until ND gets their swagger back this team will not win a title. But please stop blamming Coach Minter.

FIRE MINTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Plain and simple. It NEEDS to be done. Dick Minter SUCKED with Lou Hotz and he sucks even worse now. Look at his statistics while he was with Lou. He statistically averages 72nd in total defense while under Lou holtz. Thank God Lou knew how to coach and same thing now with Charlie Weis. But hey, if you like Dick Minter then that's your choice. FIRE DICK MINTER NOW.

 

[Guest]

I want Minter gone. Minter really has nothing to gain at ND, he's already been a HC, and he is getting old. I'd rather see ND hire someone who has more hunger for success. The defense is going to suck again next year under Minter, and I'm sure three years of bad defense will get him fired, so why prolong the inevitable.

I do agree that ND has played with no swagger. I heard a reporter say recently after an ND win that he was amazed how the players in the locker room were like NFL players, not really celebrating, just going about their business like the professionals do. That may work in the NFL, but I don't think it works in college. Also Weis didn't want the players getting too hyped up for the Michigan game because he thought they'd lose their focus and mess up, but I think that really backfired on him because Mich came out pumped up, and ready to play, while we seemed too relaxed and layed back. Even in the MSU game this year when we were trailing big, the players on the sideline seemed really relaxed, and didn't appear to have any urgency, but once that scuffle on the sideline happened then they seemed to up their game because that got them pumped up.

 

[tedwick]

FIRE MINTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Plain and simple. It NEEDS to be done. Dick Minter SUCKED with Lou Hotz and he sucks even worse now. Look at his statistics while he was with Lou. He statistically averages 72nd in total defense while under Lou holtz. Thank God Lou knew how to coach and same thing now with Charlie Weis. But hey, if you like Dick Minter then that's your choice. FIRE DICK MINTER NOW.

fire you. : )

doesn't need to be done. improvements need to be made, but minter's the guy for the job for the time being.

 

[Clotho]

Only if the job description is "get blown off the field by every top ten team".

 

[NDOM]

fire you. : )

doesn't need to be done. improvements need to be made, but minter's the guy for the job for the time being.

Fire ME? ME? jeez. That was funny though dude.

 

[Stealingshrimp]

Our D wasn't terrible last night, nor was it great. They gave the O chances, and they squandered them.
We don't have a running game, this type of slow east west running does not work on actual defenses. Walkers a great guy, not a good runner, good catcher, good blocker, NOT a good runner.We can't control the TOP with a one dimentional offense against a speedy defense. Those dropped passes were awful too.

 

[chrislw35]

fire you. : )

doesn't need to be done. improvements need to be made, but minter's the guy for the job for the time being.

For the time being??? You have freshman and soph. players for the majority next year. This is the time to make the change. You dont cover jarrett one on one with a safety no matter who that safety is. His schemes are just horrible. NOW is the time to make the change!! PERIOD!!!! Go Irish!!!

 

[PMac]

fire Minter

 

[Irish Legend]

Fire Minter!!!

 

[irishmike46]

The defense never played with any heart. They used basically the same stunts, now new twists. They very rarely attack an offense, but only react after the Offense makes amove. We need a new DC and DL line coach. For starters............

 

[Nardo!]

Our D played with the right scheme. The Tampa 2 is the scheme for what USC was running last night. Our DL put pressure on JDB, forced 2 INTs and did a decent job at stopping the running game, better than most of this year. Our secondary is slow or inexperienced. We're going to get better next year, and I've got faith in Minter. Besides, Bill Lewis does know what he's doing. When Charlie said he's the only DB coach that ever gave him fits...

 

[Indydomer]

I think they played decent enough in the first half if the offense could have capitalized on the turnovers. Remember we would have been ahead if we could have moved the ball after the two picks. Your morale is going to fall a little when you get two picks and no points

Also you could tell the talent difference. We had nobody that could stay with their guys. Better athletes in this system will produce in my opinion. And it wasn't an option on that fourth down. USC did the same play. Fake sneak and pitch.

 

[NDOM]

I think they played decent enough in the first half if the offense could have capitalized on the turnovers. Remember we would have been ahead if we could have moved the ball after the two picks. Your morale is going to fall a little when you get two picks and no points

Also you could tell the talent difference. We had nobody that could stay with their guys. Better athletes in this system will produce in my opinion. And it wasn't an option on that fourth down. USC did the same play. Fake sneak and pitch.

Talen difference is huge compared to Usc vs. Notre Dame. I agree with you on that point dude. But better athletes in my opinion will help a bit but it's still Rick Minter calling the defensive plays and like I said before: Rick Minter has to be let go (in other words, FIRED!) He was known as giving up big plays while under Lou Holtz. I posted earlier that Rick Minter's Defense under Lou Holtz averaged 72nd in total defense with his worse year at 96th in total defense. He's just not getting it done, and I dont want to hear the excuses about not having talent. We do have pretty good talent; it's just not being coached correctly. How can literally all the db's return this year and only be a "little" better than last year? and take in mind the fact that our schedual this year is far more weak than last years.

 

[KMac151993]

Talen difference is huge compared to Usc vs. Notre Dame. I agree with you on that point dude. But better athletes in my opinion will help a bit but it's still Rick Minter calling the defensive plays and like I said before: Rick Minter has to be let go (in other words, FIRED!) He was known as giving up big plays while under Lou Holtz. I posted earlier that Rick Minter's Defense under Lou Holtz averaged 72nd in total defense with his worse year at 96th in total defense. He's just not getting it done, and I dont want to hear the excuses about not having talent. We do have pretty good talent; it's just not being coached correctly. How can literally all the db's return this year and only be a "little" better than last year? and take in mind the fact that our schedual this year is far more weak than last years.

Yes but with that statement, then Weis should be fired because the offense has degressed from last year yet it returned almost all of its talent that scored more then 30 ppg last season, against as you said tougher teams. It goes beyond X's and O's it is all about heart and emotion.....right now ND has very little and it shows.

 

[jiggafini19]

Do not fire Minter.

SIGN DONALD, MARTIN, HARRISON SMITH, MICHAEL WILLIAMS, WILL BLACKWELL AND JASON PETERS.

 

[njuneardave]

USC sliced through our defense easier than any team that they have played this year (except Stanford). Even CALIFORNIA BEARS held USC in check for a majority of the game. Other teams were less talented and had far better success. Yeah, we were outclassed, but we were also outcoached. Our defensive schemes are always suspect. How is it that inferior teams like Arizona State, Arizona, Wazzu, AND TY WILLINGHAM'S WASHINGTON held USC in check better than us?

Granted, our D played INCREDIBLE the second half.... but I expected a lot more than what we got in that first quarter.

 

[irish4life99]

I was watching the 92 ND/USC game where we barely got out of the SC with a one point win. We had some HUGE talent on the DL, but the secondary and the corner play was a mirror image of todays scheme. They threw on us all day long. So I agree, I wasn't that impressed with Minter the first time around. I'm not saying anything, but I won't shave my head if he gets fired either.

 

[Irish Legend]

Do not fire Minter.

SIGN DONALD, MARTIN, HARRISON SMITH, MICHAEL WILLIAMS, WILL BLACKWELL AND JASON PETERS.

and then Fire Minter!

 

[jiggafini19]

and then Fire Minter!

In a few years, with those guys, if the results are the same....yes.

 

[scooper]

I understand the talent argument. And I have been one of those preaching patience and defending Minter. I may have reached my boiling point, though.

Here are teams that gave up less than 44 to USC...
Nebraska-29
Arizona-20
Washington St.-28
Washington-26
Arizona St.-28
Oregon St.-31
Stanford-42
Oregon-35
Cal-23

Most of those aren't even close to 44. Can you argue that most of those teams have decidedly better defensive talent than ND?


Or how about 33 to Michigan (taking out the turnover returns for TD's)

Vandy-27
Wisconsin-27
Minnessota-28
Michigan St. 31
Penn ST. 17
Iowa-20
Northwestern-17
Idiana and Ball ST. only gave up 1 point more.

Penn St. and Wisky, I can see. But the others? Do they really have more talent?

Only two teams gave up more to North Carolina- Duke and Furman.

Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue and Minnessota put up better showings against Michigan St. Which of those has outrecruited Notre Dame?

The defense did play well at times, but more often than not, they were bending and hoping not to break. Against good teams, when you try to do that, more often than not you will break.

 

[jiggafini19]

Penn State did well on defense against tOSU and scUM, yet ND scorched them.

You just never know how to make sense of all of it.