OSu Lineman talks smack about ND and CW!!!

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Anyone that thinks winning some other bowl game instead of PLAYING IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and losing is flat out wrong. Any kid that would rather play for the winner of the Sugar Bowl instead of playing for a chance at a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP is no kid I'd want playing for Notre Dame. I can't imagine anyone who was ever a competitive athlete having this mentality. That is a loser's mentality. CW will get this program back to where it needs to be because he plays for 1st, not friggin 3rd. He goes for it on 4th and 1 because that's what winners do. Punting is for those who are happy with 3rd place and 9-3.
Realistic? Objective? Loser terms. Realistically, ND had no shot of a comeback vs MSU. Objectively speaking, ND had no chance of a last minute 80 td drive against UCLA.

Playing for the NC and losing would in NO WAY hurt this program. If anything, it solidifies what CW has been telling these recruits. AT ND we play for championships. You want 3rd place, go cheer for WVU.
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It's not that the kid WANTS to play in a lower bowl...it's that kids respect winning. Getting your ass handed to you time and time again sticks in people's minds.

Oregon State is still living off their bowl victory against us back in 2000.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

It's not that the kid WANTS to play in a lower bowl...it's that kids respect winning. Getting your ass handed to you time and time again sticks in people's minds.

Oregon State is still living off their bowl victory against us back in 2000.

Dude, are you on something? Barring 5 turnovers we wont have another scUM game. Our O can hang in there. Being in the game alone would speak volumes for Notre Dame. I rather be "That Overrated Notre Dame team playing in the NC" than "That overrated Notre Dame team playing in a second tier bowl game"

You simply cannot sit tehre and tell me a title shot wouldnt be on another level than any other BCS game.

 

[VictorsValiant]

Anything can happen against anyone. Settling is simply not an excuse. Everyone plays to be the best, and that is to win championships. Ever wonder why people wanted Carr out in spite of his impeccable credentials on paper? It's because he always (not this year, to his credit), loses the first road game, which essentially eliminates us from NC consideration in September. I mean, no one over here is saying "Let's play Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl because we lost the last two Rose Bowls." That's pretty ridiculous.

I guess what the inarticulate OSU player was trying to say was that Nd didn't deserve to be in the NC game. In that sense, he is absolutely correct.

Even if Nd beats USC, I think the likely bowl for Nd will be a BCS bowl against Boston College. That'll be a good game. I guess you couldn't avoid them on the schedule, eh?

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Dude, are you on something? Barring 5 turnovers we wont have another scUM game. Our O can hang in there. Being in the game alone would speak volumes for Notre Dame. I rather be "That Overrated Notre Dame team playing in the NC" than "That overrated Notre Dame team playing in a second tier bowl game"

You simply cannot sit tehre and tell me a title shot wouldnt be on another level than any other BCS game.

Don't get yourself riled up over this guy. I just realized he has never been a true competitive athelete. I'm just amazed anyone with this mentality would be an ND fan.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

It's not that the kid WANTS to play in a lower bowl...it's that kids respect winning. Getting your ass handed to you time and time again sticks in people's minds.

Oregon State is still living off their bowl victory against us back in 2000.

BC has won 6 straight bowl games, including the Boise St bowl or whatever it was last year.. The top recruits are flocking there, right?

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Dude, are you on something? Barring 5 turnovers we wont have another scUM game. Our O can hang in there. Being in the game alone would speak volumes for Notre Dame. I rather be "That Overrated Notre Dame team playing in the NC" than "That overrated Notre Dame team playing in a second tier bowl game"

You simply cannot sit tehre and tell me a title shot wouldnt be on another level than any other BCS game.

2 of the turnovers were flukes in the SCUM game. The other 3 were generally due to good pressure. They dominated ND that game. I do believe we are a bit better than we were then...but so is ND.

So to say "barring 5 turnovers" makes no sense.

Think back to MSU...if Lambert does not pick off Stanton's tipped pass, we lose at MSU...and we are a two loss team.

Turnovers are part of the game. scUM forced a bunch of them on us...and then in the 4th quarter Carr called off the dogs and went conservative to burn time. He could have gone for more, but did not.

If we go to the title game and get hammered like last year, it will hurt the image of the program. People mock us continually for losing in bowls and being over-rated. It's used against ND all of the time. That needs to end.

A title shot IS on another level...and getting brutalized in that game would be horrible for the program. The words "exposed", "over-rated", "weak", "slow" will be thrown around AGAIN and AGAIN. And unless ND starts playing as good as they did LAST YEAR, a shot against OSU could get ugly.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

BC has won 6 straight bowl games, including the Boise St bowl or whatever it was last year.. The top recruits are flocking there, right?

I am not talking about the Tidy Bowl...I am talking BCS games.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

BC has won 6 straight bowl games, including the Boise St bowl or whatever it was last year.. The top recruits are flocking there, right?

Are you crazy? Clausen specifically said "I want to go to Notre Dame for a chance to win the Meineke Car Care Bowl"

 

[jerseyborn1971]

2 of the turnovers were flukes in the SCUM game. The other 3 were generally due to good pressure. They dominated ND that game. I do believe we are a bit better than we were then...but so is ND.

So to say "barring 5 turnovers" makes no sense.

Think back to MSU...if Lambert does not pick off Stanton's tipped pass, we lose at MSU...and we are a two loss team.

Turnovers are part of the game. scUM forced a bunch of them on us...and then in the 4th quarter Carr called off the dogs and went conservative to burn time. He could have gone for more, but did not.

If we go to the title game and get hammered like last year, it will hurt the image of the program. People mock us continually for losing in bowls and being over-rated. It's used against ND all of the time. That needs to end.

A title shot IS on another level...and getting brutalized in that game would be horrible for the program. The words "exposed", "over-rated", "weak", "slow" will be thrown around AGAIN and AGAIN. And unless ND starts playing as good as they did LAST YEAR, a shot against OSU could get ugly.

I'm sorry. I guess I'm one of those fans that would actually support my team and believe in them beofre I assume they will get embarrassed in a game that hasn't even been played yet. But you're right not to believe in them. Afterall, in 23 games CW is 19-4 and has been blown out(beaten by 20 or more) in exactly 1 game. You're an ND fan for Christmas sake. The Fiesta bowl was a 7 point game in the 4th quarter. I don't care how many yards they got.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Are you crazy? Clausen specifically said "I want to go to Notre Dame for a chance to win the Meineke Car Care Bowl"

Do you believe this guy uses the name "Lovemyirish"? He should change it to "lovemyirisheventhoughIdontbelieveinthemandillcriticizethemnomatterwhattheydo"

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I'm sorry. I guess I'm one of those fans that would actually support my team and believe in them beofre I assume they will get embarrassed in a game that hasn't even been played yet. But you're right not to believe in them. Afterall, in 23 games CW is 19-4 and has been blown out(beaten by 20 or more) in exactly 1 game. You're an ND fan for Christmas sake. The Fiesta bowl was a 7 point game in the 4th quarter. I don't care how many yards they got.

I support them and believe in them. I also know their strengths and weaknesses. And I watched a game with scUM that was not a fluke. They attacked our weaknesses and nullified our strengths. 4 yards rushing. 4.

Yeah, the Fiesta bowl was a 7 point game in the 4th quarter. The UCLA game was less than that when time expired. Is UCLA really as good as ND? OSU dominated that game. They hung more yards on us than any team in HISTORY. That's 120 years of football.

I simply want to see our guys win a BCS bowl...and our chances against tOSU are slim at best.

If we hammer USC, then I will change my mind...but let's beat USC first.

Thinking beyond that is looking way too far into the future.

ND has not played a really good team since we played scUM. Let's see how good we have become before we go thinking about anything else. The Trojans will be more than a handful...and they are not nearly as good as scUM. So let's see how it plays out.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Do you believe this guy uses the name "Lovemyirish"? He should change it to "lovemyirisheventhoughIdontbelieveinthemandillcriticizethemnomatterwhattheydo"

I am an alum and they are my only team. I follow no other sport but ND sports. Not pro, not amateur.

You can think what you want, but my love and faith for the Irish is unquestionable. Your faith in the Irish and your desire to ignore reality is duly noted.

 

[ACamp1900]

I rather be "That Overrated Notre Dame team playing in the NC" than "That overrated Notre Dame team playing in a second tier bowl game"

Never heard it said better... I am of the "let's win a bowl already No matter What bowl lets just win one!" camp... BUT this is true... if we win the gator or sugar we are overrated and bla bla... if we get to the title game win or lose we are overrrated bla bla... does it really affect us, the irish, players, coaches, students and faithful???

I MUST be honest I am sweeting bullets about this week as it means a ton to me as I am sure it means a bunch to you all(never could figure out how one football team can mean so much to a grown man but whatever)... I have always been under the IQ over heart mentality and personally don't know if we can beat tOSU or USC in a single game let alone back to back, but I'd love to see us try... And EVERYONE on this board knows nothing would be sweater than winning the BCS title by taking it from those two ass clown fan bases... Let's go for the gold now that we have a chance for it... screw the silver...

GOD I LOVE MY IRISH!!!

Let me hear it!!!!!

 

[lattedatte]

If we do somehow make it to the BCS champ. game, it will be an absolute no lose situation for us. If we lose, we were undermanned, come on recruits help us get over the hump. If we win, we shock the world and everyone wants to come play for the genious CW. It makes no sense to want to go to any other game. I don't care how good OSU looks.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

Were the Pittsburgh Steelers as good as the Bengals, Colts, Denver, and Seahawks last season?

Any Given Saturday.

 

[punishment]

I agree with LoveMyIrish's posts. He is being a realist about it. Yea we could beat OSU like 1 out of 10 times, so the term any given saturday statement does apply. But that just means that are chances are slimmer than somebody like a Michigan.

It's not about blind love for one's team, its about looking at it realistically. WHich is what LoveMyIrish is trying to do.

O yea, and the Raiders are going to win the Super Bowl.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I agree with LoveMyIrish's posts. He is being a realist about it. Yea we could beat OSU like 1 out of 10 times, so the term any given saturday statement does apply. But that just means that are chances are slimmer than somebody like a Michigan.

It's not about blind love for one's team, its about looking at it realistically. WHich is what LoveMyIrish is trying to do.

O yea, and the Raiders are going to win the Super Bowl.

Thanks...that's exactly what I am shooting for.

I know we have a possibility of beating tOSU. But out of 10 times, they would almost definitely win 7 or 8 of them.

They have a depth of talent now that we will have in 2-3 years. They are still hungry. The play every down all out. And they have one of the Top5 coaches in college football. They are quite formidable.

 

[kjones]

I think the real issue here isn't recruits, but fans having weak skins in the aftermath of Davingham. Recruiting will keep going well, Weis and Co. are very good at their jobs, and the recruits will keep coming in regardless of which bowl were are in. I think what Lovemyirish's real problem is not wanting to go another offseason with all the ND haters having another round of fodder for their "ND sucks" bandwagon (wow... terribly mixed metaphor). Anyway, ball up man! If we make the NC and lose, yeah, we'll have to go another summer getting hated on, but you know what, we're still gonna be getting better, faster, and deeper, and we still are going to win a NC inside the next 5 years. I'll take my chances at one this year, and let the Mandel/Mays's of the world be d***ed.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I think the real issue here isn't recruits, but fans having weak skins in the aftermath of Davingham. Recruiting will keep going well, Weis and Co. are very good at their jobs, and the recruits will keep coming in regardless of which bowl were are in. I think what Lovemyirish's real problem is not wanting to go another offseason with all the ND haters having another round of fodder for their "ND sucks" bandwagon (wow... terribly mixed metaphor).

It's not so much the haters that bug me...its about marketing. Showing kids that you can win big games. I love CW, but he has yet to win a "big" game [meaning a game against a top10 team].

That should change this Saturday when we crush USC.

 

[kjones]

It's not so much the haters that bug me...its about marketing. Showing kids that you can win big games.

I'm just not sure I buy that argument. At least not in his second year. Even if we lose a bowl game, do you think kids are still going to not commit to ND and CW? Honestly? We're gonna get a guy prolly first pick of the draft, making millions playing on Sundays. We're a top 10 program. We got a coach with 4 super bowl rings, in his second year. I think we can take it. Now if we havn't won a bowl game in a couple years, then you're right, but this year, I think getting into an NC games trumps any negative affects a loss could have.

 

[kjones]

And Kill those Freakings SCumbag Condoms

 

[irishlib]

Don't pay any attention to this jerk. He's a typical OSU goon.

 

[jiggafini19]

Who the hell is he?

Smith didn't say this? Or Ginn or Gonzalez or Pittman? Pfffft.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

I am an alum and they are my only team. I follow no other sport but ND sports. Not pro, not amateur.

You can think what you want, but my love and faith for the Irish is unquestionable. Your faith in the Irish and your desire to ignore reality is duly noted.

I am an admitted homer(see some of my previous posts and confessional post "My name is Jersey and I'm a homer). I don't ignore reality. But given the choice between reality and hope, I'll take hope every time.

I was also just a little upset of the constant Wolverine loving from all sides on Saturday night and Sunday. My apologies.

 

[jiggafini19]

Jersey, any chance your dancing monkey appears? I'm guessing there won't be much to come out here and talk about. Facing the music is always tough.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Jersey, any chance your dancing monkey appears? I'm guessing there won't be much to come out here and talk about. Facing the music is always tough.

OH GOD, I forgot about him. Where is he? This may keep him away until Michigan backdoors their way into the NC.

Let me try....

Oh Dancing Hater Monkey Victors Valiant, I command you to return to IrishEnvy and post ridiculous commments about how UM got screwed. I command you to return and post why ND will lose to USC and how Brady Quinn doesn't have the tools to get drafted in the NFL. I command you now Victors Valiant....DANCE HATER MONKEY DANCE!

Let's see if it worked.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I've met Barton twice at a buddy's house for his son's birthday party and he always talked up Notre Dame and was very respectful of the program. This is actually pretty strange to hear all of this now.

 

[FleaFlicker]

Remember the Tigers and the Cardinals going into the Postseason? Well the tigers were around ~1-2, the Cardinals were around ~14-15. Who won the Wolrd Series?

You guys are going to be kicking yourselves if we go to a regular BCS game and lose. How is that any better than losing in the NC game.

None of you guys want revenge at OSU? I sure as hell do. Do I think they are a better team, all around? Yeah, I do. But I don't care. Wierder things have happened. Georgia beats Auburn, OSU beats Miami in that NC game. Oklahoma gets blown out by USC in that NC game. It is one game. If we had to win 6 out of 10 against OSU, it is a different story. Anything can happen in one game. We were supposed to lose by a couple of TD's against USC last year, and all but won that game.

In terms of the "getting the bowl game monkey off of our back". Last time I checked, none of the coaches or players from most of those previous bowl losses are still on the team. You can say it is a jinx, or curse or whatever. We are going to win one eventually. As far as I'm concerned. ND didn't win a bowl game last year, that's about as far back as that streak goes.

Anyone who doesn't believe this is a different program from those, hasn't been paying attention. Even if our chances of beating OSU are 1/5 in that game. Wouldn't you take a 1/5 chance at the national Championship over a 0/0 chance?

 

[Indydomer]

Nobody can stop their offense, hence the Michigan game. Michigans defense is pretty damn tough. Charlie would just have to open the flood gates and score as much as possible.