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Q. All the wins you've strung together now, have you noticed a rise in the team's confidence? They seem to be playing more like a team that expects to win and know that they are better?

COACH WEIS: I think their expectation level is going up. Just like every fan and follower of Notre Dame football, when things around them start helping, when other teams start losing, that causes optimism for them as well.

So I think that they are playing a little bit better, and then, you know, we've got Senior Week coming up this week. I think that they will all be fired up to play their last home game here. We'll go on from there. They know that we are basically in the playoffs now, that's how I presented this on Friday night. I said yesterday was the first round of the playoffs.

So we're going into the second round of playoffs this week because, I think not to give an NFL analogy, but I think that's where we are right now, and I think that's the way I'm trying to get them to think.

Q. Because you're quote, unquote, in the playoffs right now, do you think the big prize could be at the end of that?

COACH WEIS: I think you've got to win the second round. I think that's what too many teams tried to do yesterday from what I was watching. They got knocked out in the first round. I mean, I think you'd better win the second round and not worry about the third and fourth round yet.

Q. It doesn't change what you guys do on Saturday, but how much of a lift does it give you and the other players seeing that other teams are opening the door for you?

COACH WEIS: Well, you guys, some of the people at the press conference yesterday told me about Cal, I didn't know about them, I had heard about the other games. But if you would have heard the roar on the plane when the K?State/Texas game was announced when we landed, I started to send Ruben back there to find out what was going on. Literally I turned to Ruben and I said, "Go and find out what's going on back there." There was literally a roar in the back of the plane when that came out. They are well aware of ?? these kids are dialed in just like the rest of us are. They know what's going on.

Q. Does that give you potentially another extra spring in your step this week?

COACH WEIS: No, I think that ?? I think that I'll try to approach it the same. I really think that it's good if you can have one area of focus each week. This past week for me was, this is the first round of the playoffs. This week for me, it's Senior Week. I think you've got a pretty good idea of what's following after that.

So I think that, you know, Senior Week, that should be enough of an impetus for everyone to focus on who you're playing against and what you need to do. If that doesn't get it done, if you can't get ready to play your potentially last game, or in most cases it is their last game, ever, at Notre Dame Stadium, both the players and the coaches, then we have a problem.

Thought this was a particularly cool part of yesterday's presser. Charlie knows it, the players know it: Two wins, and a couple of fortuitous losses by other teams, and they could very well be in the championship game.

(Unfortunately, justifying it becomes very hard. If michigan wins, ND plays a Michigan team that destroyed them earlier in the season. If Michigan loses, ND would be going in the place of a team that destroyed them earlier in the season.)
 
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(Unfortunately, justifying it becomes very hard. If michigan wins, ND plays a Michigan team that destroyed them earlier in the season. If Michigan loses, ND would be going in the place of a team that destroyed them earlier in the season.)

As long as the BCS has us at #2 if we win out and we get those losses, I don't need justification.

I bet the team is salivating at a chance of redemption for that loss.
 

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I have zero doubt they'll take care of business against Army.

USC is the big one. So far Ga Tech, scUM and UCLA have all given ND problems with their defenses. SC could do the same.

With a win Saturday against Army, USC 11/25/2006 becomes the biggest game Charlie Weis has ever coached and the biggest game Brady Quinn has ever played in. Regardless of what everyone does and where ND ends up in January, they have to win that game. Nothing else really matters but beating USC.
 
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Hold on a sec.......if SC is #2 in the BCS(if they can gain the spot afterUM/OSU), and ND wins, you don't think they will jump Florida?
 
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My fear is that the human voters will find a way to undermine ND's chances. If we win out, and UM beats OSU, they won't want a rematch of our game--they believe the decisive UM win settled the issue. If we win out and OSU beats UM, we won't jump UM because of head to head results earlier in the year.

I'm not saying I agree with this, but the human voters can and do "game the system" at times, and this can undermine whatever good may come from the computers.
 

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Even a win against a one loss SC team doesn't escape the fact that a one loss SEC trumps everything and everyone. That conference is the John Holmes of the college football media.

Arkansas has to lose to LSU or Florida.
Florida has to lose to Florida State or Arkansas.

They both need to have 2 losses, coupled with two more ND victories.

A one loss SEC team faces the Big Ten Champ.
 
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Even a win against a one loss SC team doesn't escape the fact that a one loss SEC trumps everything and everyone. That conference is the John Holmes of the college football media.

Arkansas has to lose to LSU or Florida.
Florida has to lose to Florida State or Arkansas.

They both need to have 2 losses, coupled with two more ND victories.

A won loss SEC team faces the Big Ten Champ.
I don't think Arkansas would be sent over us.
 
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Ummm......1993?

1993 or 1990, your choice.

In 1993, voters selected FSU over ND despite head-to-head.
In 1990, they selected Miami over ND because of head-to-head, despite our beating Colorado in the Orange Bowl.

Common thread here is that, unless ND goes undefeated and untied, there is room for doubt in voters' minds about us, especially if we lose to one of the other contenders.
 
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I don't think Arkansas would be sent over us.

If they beat Florida, and have only one loss, they will be sent over us. Voters have a bias toward the SEC as the best conference; going undefeated in SEC play and only one loss to SC early will be worth to more to voters than our running the table after UM and beating SC late, unless we pound SC.
 
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If they beat Florida, and have only one loss, they will be sent over us. Voters have a bias toward the SEC as the best conference; going undefeated in SEC play and only one loss to SC early will be worth to more to voters than our running the table after UM and beating SC late, unless we pound SC.

I agree with that, the only way we get into the title game over Arkansas(if they win out) is if we beat USC by like 3 TD's. Then, even the doubters would have to give us credit.
 
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Arkansas has to beat Florida. Which makes USC's schedule ranking higher. So when we beat USC Florida is out of the way and we will beat the team that beat Arkansas.
You have to think like a computer, I just hope the damn humans don't vote us out!! ha ha
 

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Ummm......1993?

Ummm...... no. In 1993, FSU lost a close, one-score game in South Bend that went down to the wire. This year, Michigan came to town and delivered a beating so bad that Brady Quinn wished he was a Republican incumbent instead.

The two scenarios really don't belong in the same conversation.

The only way Notre Dame leapfrogs a one-loss Michigan is if Michigan's loss to Ohio State is even worse than our loss to Michigan. I put the odds of that at about the same as my odds of sleeping with Paris Hilton. And that's even lower than you might think... I don't even find Paris attractive to begin with.
 
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LSU beats Arkansas. No question in my mind.

We just need to win our last two here and hope a struggling UF team falls.
 

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I don't think Arkansas would be sent over us.

I think they would if the beat LSU and UF and ND beats USC. I don't know if this is the case in real life (but it is true in my NCAA '07!), but does playing that 13th game give arkansas an advantage in the computer rankings? If i were a computer, my hard drive would like 12 wins over 11 wins.
 

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LSU beats Arkansas. No question in my mind.

We just need to win our last two here and hope a struggling UF team falls.

really? no doubt? LSU sure is talented, but did you see that tennesse game they played? how many dropped passes were there for LSU? it's that lack of execution that makes me think LSU is prone to losing these big games. Talent impresses the pundits, but it doesn't scare opponents into losing games (except if you're Bill Callahan playing USC like a scared little girl, but I digress...). In fact, I think that's the difference between teams like ND and teams like LSU or Florida: they may have talent oozing out of every orifice, but the fundamentals are lacking in some cases.
 
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I hope the world starts to believe ND has no shot at beating USC. If the team this year has proven anything, it is they win when the world has given up on them.
 
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dankus

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The reason he is confident about Arkansas vs LSU is because LSU has the 5th best rushing defense in the country, the best they will face all year, even better than Florida.

Not only that, their passing defense is 14th in the country, again the best they will face all year.

Based on statistics, LSU has the second best total defense in the country. Arkansas has the 20th best offense in the country.

LSU has the 11th best offense in the country, while Arkansas has the 22nd.

If going by statistics alone, it would dictate that LSU has the edge. But they don't have McFadden.
 
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I hope the world starts to believe ND has no shot at beating USC. If the team this year has proven anything, it is they win when the world has given up on them.

Personally, I'd rather see them start strong and play possession instead of a comeback that will nearly give me a heart attack.
 
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