Rutgers got SCREWED in Coaches Poll

[LOVEMYIRISH]

So tell me...Lousiville BEATS WVU. Rutgers BEATS Louisville.

WVU gets ranked the highest?

What the hell is that about?

 

[KMac151993]

Its because WVU is so overrated that if they don't keep them up there, there would be no justification to why they were ranked so high to begin with.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Its because WVU is so overrated that if they don't keep them up there, there would be no justification to why they were ranked so high to begin with.

You are right.

Seriously that poll is so biased it's not funny.

Honestly, how in God's name can they rank those 3 teams like that with a straight face???

 

[irishfan]

It's going to be interesting to see what order that the 3 Big East teams will be in the BCS. It could be in any order really, although Rutgers should be ranked the highest.

 

[lattedatte]

wow, that is crap....

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

wow, that is crap....

It's not like I am from New Jersey or a fan of Rutgers...but WOW...that's just blatant BAD POLLING.

Rutgers kept the Louisville offense out of the end zone for over 30 minutes. They put up 28...they won in a dog fight and played their hearts out. WVU coasts over crappy teams, then LOSES to another mediocre team, and they get ranked higher?

I call Bullshit.

 

[KMac151993]

Rutgers is the only Big East team worthy of a Top 15 ranking....bottom line!

 

[lattedatte]

It's not like I am from New Jersey or a fan of Rutgers...but WOW...that's just blatant BAD POLLING.

Rutgers kept the Louisville offense out of the end zone for over 30 minutes. They put up 28...they won in a dog fight and played their hearts out. WVU coasts over crappy teams, then LOSES to another mediocre team, and they get ranked higher?

I call Bullshit.

Hey wvu is my second favorite team and I think its crap...

I think WVU, Louisville and Rutgers all deserve to be in the top 15 though.. they are all good teams that deserve to be right behind Ohio st and michigan, two teams that actually have accomplished something this year. Mich. crushed us at home and OSU crushed UT at UT and won every other game. Really other than that you cannot make a legitimate claim for anyone over anyone. It really shows an elitest attitude to think that the BE teams do not deserve to be ranked high.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Hey wvu is my second favorite team and I think its crap...

I think WVU, Louisville and Rutgers all deserve to be in the top 15 though.. they are all good teams that deserve to be right behind Ohio st and michigan, two teams that actually have accomplished something this year. Mich. crushed us at home and OSU crushed UT at UT and won every other game. Really other than that you cannot make a legitimate claim for anyone over anyone. It really shows an elitest attitude to think that the BE teams do not deserve to be ranked high.

Not elitist...it's just schedule. They have insanely easy schedules.

If you don't agree, then I would love to hear why Boise State is not ranked as high as Rutgers...

 

[lattedatte]

Not elitist...it's just schedule. They have insanely easy schedules.

If you don't agree, then I would love to hear why Boise State is not ranked as high as Rutgers...

1) They are not from a BCS conference.
2) They have barely beat the likes of Tulsa and San Jose St and New Mex st.


Let's do it this way, who deserves to be a head of these one loss BE teams and why? Please reference their schedules. I'll give you these three OSU, Mich and I guess Florida but I think they are overated as well. But other than that who?

The schedule in the BE is no different then the P10, ACC or B12 THIS YEAR.

Louisville crushed, crushed Miami and K. State with backups, WVU did the same to Maryland who if you haven't noticed might win the ACC. Rutgers beat Ill. 30 something nothing, didn't OSU barely beat them last week?

If its not elitist its not based on sound rationale.

 

[marv81s]

Oh shit, here we go, I sense the beginning of a Big East Conference bash session approaching. I am sitting this one out.

 

[NDgettysburg]

Louisville crushed, crushed Miami

That mighta carried some weight in past years, but not this season.

 

[lattedatte]

Oh shit, here we go, I sense the beginning of a Big East Conference bash session approaching. I am sitting this one out.

LOL, thanks marv...

 

[lattedatte]

That mighta carried some weight in past years, but not this season.

y? I guess crushing a rivals 5 star loaded team with a second team RB and QB isn't impressive?

 

[Clotho]

Is this a Rutgers board? Did I miss something? When did we adopt this team? We play these a-holes either next year or in the next few years. You all gonna root for them then, too?

Who cares if they got screwed. Maybe they shouldn't have struggled with the likes of South Florida, UNC, UConn, Pitt, and on and on.

 

[NDgettysburg]

y? I guess crushing a rivals 5 star loaded team with a second team RB and QB isn't impressive?

Because Miami THIS year does not in any way live up to the reputation of Miami of past years. Simple as that. It's about as impressive as beating a Willingham or Davie ND team.

And WTF does Rivals have to do with how good a team is? If you want to go by that, then I guess Rutgers blows because they're not loaded with Rivals 5 star players?

 

[dankus]

It's going to be really interesting when West Virginia beats Rutgers and no one has a clue where to put anyone.

 

[Clotho]

I think that's pretty much why the rankings fell this way. WVU, to start the season, was ranked high because pollsters thought they'd finish high because their schedule was so easy. It was a prediction, not a ranking. And now they're ranked higher than Rutgers because pollsters think they'll beat Rutgers. Which is probably true.

That said it's a horrible way to run a poll, and pollsters way too high "prediction ranking" of WVU almost ruined the national championship matchup. Louisville got jumped all the way to 3rd just on the strength of beating WVU, who was ranked too high. Luckily Rutgers got them, or we'd have been stuck with Louisville getting a berth in the championship.

 

[NDgettysburg]

It's going to be really interesting when West Virginia beats Rutgers and no one has a clue where to put anyone.

I think Rutgers beats WVU....really, I do. They proved they can shutdown a good offense and their defense is loads better than Louisvilles. No reason they can't win. The ONLY reason I've really heard anyone put forward is that the game's on the road.

 

[Clotho]

Which is a huge factor, if you look at the Rutgers road scores. They're not particularly good, and WV is a tough place to play, and has a much better team than Rutgers.

Also, while I think the Big East sucks and is overrated, the Louisville win at KSU looks better now. Although Texas was also overrated, so maybe not.

 

[NDgettysburg]

My money (if I was the betting type) would still be on Rutgers

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

Funny thing I told my buddy tonight. " I love Rutgers now, but I HOPE they lose."

If they run the table, the media will be in a frenzy vying for their NC chances. If anyone has been in the tri-state area recently the RU bandwagon has been loading at an insane rate. I wish Schiano the best of luck, but as long as it doesnt get in my BCS aspirations.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Let's do it this way, who deserves to be a head of these one loss BE teams and why? Please reference their schedules. I'll give you these three OSU, Mich and I guess Florida but I think they are overated as well. But other than that who?

If we look at who's below WVU, I see a few that should move up...

Wisconsin should be ahead of WVU and Louisville. They have played a solid schedule...with some tougher teams and done well. I would even put Auburn ahead of them...they have more quality wins.

WVU has beaten TWO teams with Winning records: Maryland and East Carolina.

None of the rest have winning records.

WVU is VASTLY over-rated.

 

[lattedatte]

If we look at who's below WVU, I see a few that should move up...

Wisconsin should be ahead of WVU and Louisville. They have played a solid schedule...with some tougher teams and done well. I would even put Auburn ahead of them...they have more quality wins.

WVU has beaten TWO teams with Winning records: Maryland and East Carolina.

None of the rest have winning records.

WVU is VASTLY over-rated.

So you name two teams, two teams!!!! So that puts them fifth. What are we arguing about, I think the should be like ninth.

You talk about schedules here's Wisky's, I don't see any wins vs. a ranked opponent. In fact only one game against a ranked opponent.

Sat, Sep 2 at Bowling Green W 35-14 Audio
Sat, Sep 9 Western Illinois W 34-10 Audio
Sat, Sep 16 San Diego State W 14-0 Audio
Sat, Sep 23 at (6) Michigan L 13-27 Audio
Sat, Sep 30 at Indiana W 52-17 Audio
Sat, Oct 7 Northwestern W 41-9 Audio
Sat, Oct 14 Minnesota W 48-12 Audio
Sat, Oct 21 at Purdue W 24-3 Audio
Sat, Oct 28 Illinois W 30-24 Audio
Sat, Nov 4 Penn State W 13-3 Audio
Sat, Nov 11 at Iowa W 24-21 Audio

 

[lattedatte]

Because Miami THIS year does not in any way live up to the reputation of Miami of past years. Simple as that. It's about as impressive as beating a Willingham or Davie ND team.

And WTF does Rivals have to do with how good a team is? If you want to go by that, then I guess Rutgers blows because they're not loaded with Rivals 5 star players?

I agree with your rivals statement that is more of a statement to others that think that is the most important thing. But you are telling me that if you look at this schedule where they barely lost to 3 ranked teams that getting blowed out by louisville without brohm and bush that isn't impressive, just a little bit? wow.

Miami
Mon, Sep 4 (11) Florida State L 10-13 --
Sat, Sep 9 Florida A&M W 51-10 --
Sat, Sep 16 at (12) Louisville L 7-31 --
Sat, Sep 30 Houston W 14-13 --
Sat, Oct 7 North Carolina W 27-7 --
Sat, Oct 14 Florida International W 35-0 --
Sat, Oct 21 at Duke W 20-15 --
Sat, Oct 28 at (21) Georgia Tech L 23-30 --
Sat, Nov 4 (23) Virginia Tech L 10-17 --
Sat, Nov 11 at (23) Maryland L 13-14 --

 

[lattedatte]

I think that's pretty much why the rankings fell this way. WVU, to start the season, was ranked high because pollsters thought they'd finish high because their schedule was so easy. It was a prediction, not a ranking. And now they're ranked higher than Rutgers because pollsters think they'll beat Rutgers. Which is probably true.

That said it's a horrible way to run a poll, and pollsters way too high "prediction ranking" of WVU almost ruined the national championship matchup. Louisville got jumped all the way to 3rd just on the strength of beating WVU, who was ranked too high. Luckily Rutgers got them, or we'd have been stuck with Louisville getting a berth in the championship.

Then why wasn't Boise St ranked high in the top 5? Because prediction ranking isn't the way it's done. It's becuase they wen't 11-1 last year, beat Louisville, crushed Pitt and took it to Ga. in Atlanta with two freshmen at key positions and their entire offense coming back. Same with Louisville.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

So you name two teams, two teams!!!! So that puts them fifth. What are we arguing about, I think the should be like ninth.

It was a time thing, not the ability to find more... I think there are more than a couple 2 loss teams I would put above WVU:
LSU
Texas
Auburn
California

All come to mind...

 

[BGIF]

... the Louisville win at KSU looks better now. Although Texas was also overrated, so maybe not.

Ah yes, the Longhorn QB gets knocked out the game (like the Navy QB did against RU) and suddenly a team is overrated.

Do you think ND would have scored 42 points against KSU without Quinn?

And before you stick your foot in your mouth with one of your West Virginia would rush for 600 yd against ND gems, I'll remind you that ND has only scored that many points ONCE all season WITH Quinn against a team quite inferior to KSU.

 

[jiggafini19]

BGIF, I agree. But even with McCoy in that game, does the D allow 45 points? That's a lot of scoring.

From what I saw of Texas, Florida and Auburn, don't tell me Rutgers can't compete with anyone. These teams aren't that good and anyone can play with anyone, especially on the neutral field of a bowl game with a month to prepare.

That Rutgers defense can keep them in just about any game with any one.

That's my hypothetical, subjective babble on the subject.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

We may get to see the Rutgers D up close and personal if ND goes to a BCS bowl that isn't the NC.

On a side note about Rutgers, I was talking to a buddy back home in Jersey and he said the Rutgers bookstore did not have any Rutgers football gear left. That's right, they were TOTALLY sold out. That was a first for them.