Schiano

[Guest]

Does Schiano stay at Rutgers or bolt for a better job(Miami, North Carolina, PSU, or whatever else may open up this year or next)

I think he'll leave, he's not making much money right now, his contract pays him around one million per year, but his contract won't kick in over a million dollars for a few more years. Rutgers will have to give him a significant pay increase if they plan on keeping him IMO. I don't see Rutgers doing this because their program doesn't generate much money, and I doubt their alumni would anty up the money.

 

[VictorsValiant]

He will not leave for the schools you mentioned. At Rutgers, he can only go up, whereas at Miami, he can only go down. He has Florida connections, a great recruiting base in NJ and room to manuver. He doesn't have to go 11-1 each year, which will be the case at Miami. At Miami, he would have to clean up Thug U., not to mention winning a lot of football games with a remarkably demanding crowd. Schiano is also a NJ native.

He won't take the NC job because frankly, that's not as prestigious as Rutgers. Why would he take a backseat to a basketball school? He can make Rutgers into a football school since they're bad at most sports anyways.

The PSU job makes sense for him, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. Paterno is still committed to his job, he's still alert and most importantly, I think he wants to win. The Anthony Morelli project hasn't worked out for him, but he's still motivated. Furthermore, Paterno has always talked about how he wants an assistant to replace him. Do you really think PSU will not honor that request?

So why does this matter? Plenty, if you're PSU, Nd, Virginia Tech and others who've raided the NJ market of solid recruits. The incentive to go to Rutgers for good recruits is getting higher and higher with Schiano's success. Weis is a NJ native as well, so he's still in a good postion, but he's going to have to win, and spend more time convincing the NJ recruits to come. It's just added competition from a local team. I do think, however, that this will hurt PSU more.

 

[BGIF]

I think he'll leave. Neither R-tSUNJ nor their alumni are geared to big time college sports. Rutgers is still on the fringe of the Ivy League football is a pleasant way to spend a Saturday afternoon. It's not a passion.

Ever been to Rutgers? Nice campus. Ever been to the Stadium 41,500. Don't look for them to build a new one. They play ND in The Meadowlands and it becomes a ND home game.

I think he'll leave but not this year. In 6 years as a head coach he's 26-39. That's not the cachet of Urban Meyer. It's not the record to inspire Miami despite his former DC position nor PSU. His resume wouldn't make the short list at UNC. Yes, they're a basketball school but at least their alumni support that sport. I lived in NJ during the last undefeated season. Rutgers fans traditionally support nothing.

Schiano would add an instant 5 losses moving to the Big 10. He can stay in the Big East and lose to WVU and LOU every year and still win 9 games with the schedule they play. Despite the current drum beating of Big East supremacy, Rutgers first 4 games were against UNC, ILL, Buffalo, and Div 1aa Howard University. Due those 4 teams have a total of 3 Div 1a wins among them?

He needs to stay like Mack Brown did at UNC. Show some 10 game seasons, beat somebody that can play football, then move up.

 

[Guest]

He will not leave for the schools you mentioned. At Rutgers, he can only go up, whereas at Miami, he can only go down. He has Florida connections, a great recruiting base in NJ and room to manuver. He doesn't have to go 11-1 each year, which will be the case at Miami. At Miami, he would have to clean up Thug U., not to mention winning a lot of football games with a remarkably demanding crowd. Schiano is also a NJ native.

I agree he should stay at Rutgers, but you can't overlook the money aspect. He's underpaid quite a bit at Rutgers now, and not many people are going to turn down a million plus per year pay increase. Frankly I can't see Rutgers paying him 2 mil a year.

I don't see why he can only go down at Miami, Maimi's pretty down right now, and their fans are calling for Coker's head. Seems like a good place to go right now, they have nowhere to go but up IMO

He won't take the NC job because frankly, that's not as prestigious as Rutgers. Why would he take a backseat to a basketball school? He can make Rutgers into a football school since they're bad at most sports anyways.

Overall I'd still say the NC job is more prestigious than Rutgers even though NC is only 1-6. One great year for Rutgers isn't going to make them more prestigious. NC still brings in better talent on a yearly basis, hell they have a better class right now with guys like Paulus even though they're only 1-6. Plus NC has great facilities and fan support even though their team stinks. Plus NC would have no problem opening their wallets to pay a coach with their generous alumni, something Rutgers doesn't seem to have

So why does this matter? Plenty, if you're PSU, Nd, Virginia Tech and others who've raided the NJ market of solid recruits. The incentive to go to Rutgers for good recruits is getting higher and higher with Schiano's success. Weis is a NJ native as well, so he's still in a good postion, but he's going to have to win, and spend more time convincing the NJ recruits to come. It's just added competition from a local team. I do think, however, that this will hurt PSU more.

Those teams are still raiding NJ, ND landed three of the top players in that state this year alone, Rutgers may eventually start landing that talent, but I'd say they're at least two years away from doing so. They need to start recruitng the second tier talent in that state before they can even sniff the top talent. Despite Rutgers success this year, people are still aware of how bad that programs been the last 20 or more years. He needs to have a couple of more top 25 finishes to make people forget that.

 

[Óglaigh_na_hÉireann]

Michigan State, lol.

 

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The PSU job makes sense for him, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. Paterno is still committed to his job, he's still alert and most importantly, I think he wants to win. The Anthony Morelli project hasn't worked out for him, but he's still motivated. Furthermore, Paterno has always talked about how he wants an assistant to replace him. Do you really think PSU will not honor that request?

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Joe Pa is as alert as a cow prior to getting tipped.

 

[Guest]

Schiano's stock keeps rising and rising

 

[Óglaigh_na_hÉireann]

Honestly, I don't think MSU has much potential, no matter what, they'll always be in the shadow of UM. RU can take prospects from all of New England and tap into eastern Pennsylvania... their school is a lot further from NYC than I thought, though....so that's not good.

 

[onenybrother]

I dont see Rutgers kicking up Miami money to keep Schiano. I see Schiano wanting to build a special program in his home state. Where he would be God. Iinstead of " not being Butch Davis or Jimmy Johnson".

 

[Aerosmith777]

I voted that he'd leave, only b/c if history is any judge, the coach always leaves in these stories.

BUT, I do think of all the recent stories like this (coach takes a previously underperforming school to new heights, i.e. Urban Meyer, Dan Hawkins, etc etc) this is the one I'd say is most likely to stay, b/c he's is in a BCS school, and also b/c he's at a school that's in a great recruiting state, only a stone's throw from NYC, and the only D-1 school in the area.

Even though I'm no alum, I for one really hope he stays. As a huge college football fan, its really great to hear college football being talked about in this area as much as it has been lately, b/c it practically never did before.

 

[maison bleu]

Joe Pa is as alert as a cow prior to getting tipped.

LMAO. As a Michigan fan like VV, I hope Joe Pa stays. PSU is nearly an automatic win for us.

 

[Aerosmith777]

You know I can swear I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that there was a quote from Bob Stoops that if he was ever offered the Penn State job, he'd take it (like years ago, after he won his first title, when asked if he'd ever think about trying to coach in the pros).

I dunno if that's true, or if he was just joking, but that would have to piss off Joe Pa if he wants an assistant to take over. I mean, seriously, if that's true you can't pass on the chance to have Bob Stoops take over your program for any assisstant, even if he has a recommendation from Joe Paterno. Would rule out Schiano as a potential candidate too.

I really wish I could remember where I read that...I remember having a conversation about it w/ an OU fan friend of mine though...actually, come to think of it, I remember when I read it now, it was when OU played LSU for the BCS title almost 4 years ago now, b/c I remember that's when I was talking to the guy about it b/c we were arguing over whether there'd be a split national champ that year if USC won big at the Rose Bowl (which there was/which they did).

 

[VictorsValiant]

The problem is Schiano won't be offered the PSU job. Paterno is going to determine who comes next, and he's said repeatedly that he wants an assistant to get a chance.

He might demand more money after this season, but there aren't any marquee positions availiable. Why would he jump now? He has a good team on the field and they're all pretty young. He has a good thing going at Rutgers. He'll only leave for a big time school, and at least after this season, that won't happen.

 

[wahoo]

What kind of contract does Schiano have? Some coaches have a buy-out if they want to move on. He's young...maybe he will take the green if one of the "football factories" offer it to him.
Maybe SCum will offer him a job after OSU beats them next saturday

 

[Guest]

If Schiano has any aspirations to eventually coach in the NFL he should stay at Rutgers. If he continues to have this success at Rutgers it would be considered much more impressive than what Ferentz has done at Iowa.