First off, late in the 3rd, the U is only up 14-0. More importantly, benches clearing brawl between the teams. People throwing punches, kicking people, people swinging helmets. Coker has lost control, Robert Smith on ESPN news called the players punks and thugs and wants charges filed and scholies pulled.
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Lou Holtz was talking about it a little bit on ESPN, and he mentioned the brawl that broke out at the end of his last game with South Carolina vs. Clemson and blamed it on himself for not having control of his own players. (He had announced his upcoming retirement 5 days earlier, and it made him kind of a "lame-duck coach.") He went on to say that this brawl is on both coaches for utterly failing to control their own players.
Mark May found a clip of the brawl showing a Miami player coming off the bench with helmet in hand, finding an FIU player, and swinging his helmet at him like a weapon. Unbelievable.
Mark May found a clip of the brawl showing a Miami player coming off the bench with helmet in hand, finding an FIU player, and swinging his helmet at him like a weapon. Unbelievable.
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Off-topic for a sec; this is the Robert Smith that played for the Vikings right?
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They need to toss a LOT of guys off that team.
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thought so....he looked familiar.
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Here's a link to here the original commentary. Listen to this gang banger in the boot trying to promote more lunacy. Only in Miami I swear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ
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Who is that scumbag?
Apparently the fighting wasn't only on the field, this is from the U rivals board-
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I was sitting in the UM alumni section where many FIU undergrads were also sitting nearby. THere were at least 5 fights in the stands, several arrests, and one tasered fan...
The game was a mess. We thought they were going to call the game. I don't know how Merriweather and Reddick didn't get tossed. Either way Coker and Dee need to step up and make some stiff penalty before the school gets drug through the mud even more.
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I was sitting in the UM alumni section where many FIU undergrads were also sitting nearby. THere were at least 5 fights in the stands, several arrests, and one tasered fan...
The game was a mess. We thought they were going to call the game. I don't know how Merriweather and Reddick didn't get tossed. Either way Coker and Dee need to step up and make some stiff penalty before the school gets drug through the mud even more.
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That was stupid. I dont know how else to describe that. Coker is most likely gone.
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Stewart Mandel summed it all up with this blog here on the miami situation:
1) That Miami’s players have thrown pride out the window: Yes, the replays show that two Florida International players were responsible for starting Saturday night’s riot at the Orange Bowl. But come on --- you’re Miami, the “U,” the most dominant program of the past two decades, and you allow yourselves to be drawn into a bench-clearing melee with FIU? They’re barely a I-A program. The fiasco may have started as a defense of their attacked teammate, but you never would have seen the violent barrage of helmet-wielding, foot-stomping and body-slamming that followed from the Ken Dorsey/Dan Morgan/Ed Reed-era ‘Canes. The current edition seems to be going out of its way to bring embarrassment to its predecessors.
1) That Miami’s players have thrown pride out the window: Yes, the replays show that two Florida International players were responsible for starting Saturday night’s riot at the Orange Bowl. But come on --- you’re Miami, the “U,” the most dominant program of the past two decades, and you allow yourselves to be drawn into a bench-clearing melee with FIU? They’re barely a I-A program. The fiasco may have started as a defense of their attacked teammate, but you never would have seen the violent barrage of helmet-wielding, foot-stomping and body-slamming that followed from the Ken Dorsey/Dan Morgan/Ed Reed-era ‘Canes. The current edition seems to be going out of its way to bring embarrassment to its predecessors.
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G-H-E-T-T-O.
Nothing else needs to be said. DUH U attracts certain kinds of people to their program, people I would not want to have anywhere near my football team. Florida International appears to be no better.
Larry Coker has lost total control, and it goes light years beyond wins and losses. This program is just like it was pre-Butch Davis under Denny Dirtbag Erickson.
I see those highlights last night, again this morning and it saddens me. Sports is on a horrible decline in the wrong direction because rather than do the right thing, like maybe say regardless of what they do this year DUH U is barred from a bowl game, they'll still have the opportunity because it's all about the money. University presidents and athletic directors just don't care anymore.
They produce more millionaires and criminals than they do graduates.
Nothing else needs to be said. DUH U attracts certain kinds of people to their program, people I would not want to have anywhere near my football team. Florida International appears to be no better.
Larry Coker has lost total control, and it goes light years beyond wins and losses. This program is just like it was pre-Butch Davis under Denny Dirtbag Erickson.
I see those highlights last night, again this morning and it saddens me. Sports is on a horrible decline in the wrong direction because rather than do the right thing, like maybe say regardless of what they do this year DUH U is barred from a bowl game, they'll still have the opportunity because it's all about the money. University presidents and athletic directors just don't care anymore.
They produce more millionaires and criminals than they do graduates.
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Miami wasnt fighting themselves out there. I saw a variety of shit happen. Most of which isnt as easy to blame one side.
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No doubt. FIU is garbage too.
But Miami gets into a brawl with a team that should be I-AA? And they carried it on pretty well. Then that whole little dance with their helmets up in the air?
And their fans loved it.
What amazes me is people hate Notre Dame as much as they do, but then you see trash like this. Stuart Scott kisses Miami's ass all the time with his "DUH U!!" crap.
This is where I want the guys I coach to go to school or what I want my sons to act like if I ever have kids of my own.
It looked like a prison riot or animals on the Discovery Channel. Completely disgusting behavior that, quite frankly, wouldn't really happen in too many other places other than Dade County Florida.
But Miami gets into a brawl with a team that should be I-AA? And they carried it on pretty well. Then that whole little dance with their helmets up in the air?
And their fans loved it.
What amazes me is people hate Notre Dame as much as they do, but then you see trash like this. Stuart Scott kisses Miami's ass all the time with his "DUH U!!" crap.
This is where I want the guys I coach to go to school or what I want my sons to act like if I ever have kids of my own.
It looked like a prison riot or animals on the Discovery Channel. Completely disgusting behavior that, quite frankly, wouldn't really happen in too many other places other than Dade County Florida.
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You are so right jigga. I don't believe Coker can salvage this one. There should be severe penalties for that brawl with multiple suspensions and possibly criminal charges brought against likely players on both sides. That was a riot - outside of the arena that behavior would be prosecuted and inside the arena should be no different. Only then will people start taking some responsibility.
I agree that this is a situation that would only happen several places - Miami being one, and right now I am struggling with a second. I am not a big fan of any Florida schools but do not believe that it happens at Florida or Florida State.
Alot of things added up to the final result there:
1) Miami playing a team they have no right playing anyway
2) A small school wanting to make a name for themselves
3) Many high school players on both sides who played against each other - obviously the better of them went to the "U".
End result is another black eye for sports - it has not been a good year.
I agree that this is a situation that would only happen several places - Miami being one, and right now I am struggling with a second. I am not a big fan of any Florida schools but do not believe that it happens at Florida or Florida State.
Alot of things added up to the final result there:
1) Miami playing a team they have no right playing anyway
2) A small school wanting to make a name for themselves
3) Many high school players on both sides who played against each other - obviously the better of them went to the "U".
End result is another black eye for sports - it has not been a good year.
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This is the second incident this season involving Coker's team.
It is getting beyond wins and losses. The program is becoming a disgrace again as it once was. Butch Davis did a pretty good job cleaning things up, but someone spilled the milk again.
It is getting beyond wins and losses. The program is becoming a disgrace again as it once was. Butch Davis did a pretty good job cleaning things up, but someone spilled the milk again.
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i hate comparing two different teams and two different seasons, but if we try and relate this to Marcus Vick's incident last year...we could clearly make the argument that many of the players involved "should" at least be suspended for the season, and at worst expelled from their curent University (assault charges?).
I'm a little torn because I think expulsion is a little too severe of a penalty...however, I also think that expulsion would set an example to prevent future incidents. As stated above, if this incident is off of a football field, it is Assault (are cleats and/or helmets deadly weapons?). Sports needs to clearly demonstrate that on or off a football field, they carry the same consequences. i think jail time is the equivelant of a year suspension.
I'm a little torn because I think expulsion is a little too severe of a penalty...however, I also think that expulsion would set an example to prevent future incidents. As stated above, if this incident is off of a football field, it is Assault (are cleats and/or helmets deadly weapons?). Sports needs to clearly demonstrate that on or off a football field, they carry the same consequences. i think jail time is the equivelant of a year suspension.
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scholarships revoked. When they accepted the scholarships from those schools it was a priviledge, not a right and what all of those kids did on saturday night that was involved in the brawl was a disgrace to each of the schools. Take away their scholarships, that was unacceptable and reflects very poorly at each University.
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That would be awesome, but it won't happen. Miami's 3rd stringers are better than every Duke starter.
Is it just me, or does it seem like when incidents like this happen at Miami, or OSU, or USC, or name-your-big-time-but-somewhat-dirty-program, the game the kids always get suspended for is vs. Duke? or vs. Akron? or @ San Diego State? I know its just whoever's next on the schedule, but just once I'd like to see something like this happen at one of these programs and the kid get suspended for a game like @ Texas.
Personally if I was Coker I'd withold the suspensions for a game that matters.
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You'd have to look at it from a player-by-player basis when you're talking about expulsion. Remember, Marcus Vick was expelled for the last of a long line of incidents. Some of these Miami players may (and probly do) have similar rap sheets, and thus could be expelled. But it could be a one-time thing for a few. Depends on the player.
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To be fair, Coker suspended a group of players for the FSU game earlier this year. But point well-taken.
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The prez of the U just said roughly "the high standards of the conference in bother behavior and academics for the student athletes is strict and we are content with their decision" FIU dismissed 2 suspended 16 indefinately.... miami 1 indefinately.... if you look at all the replays, its miami kids stompin fiu players, takin off helmets and using em as weapons... just disgusting....