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Yes I remember that bowl game well. That was a case when Spurrier and his team treated the game as a blowoff game and didn't take ND seriously. It happens damn near every week in college football when a team doesn't come to play, like Auburn last saturday. Assface didn't have his team ready to play, ND did and played a damn near perfect game.

As i just stated up above, ND could make it game if they played a perfect game and forced a couple turnovers. Any team can be beaten on any given day. But based on what I have seen so far this year, I don't think ND could beat Florida. Not right now. If both teams played to their potential, I dont' think ND would beat them. My opinion. Its not a lack of loyalty, I don't have blind loyalty. I would still root for ND no mater what. the situation, no mater what the record is year after year. I have stuck with them for over 20 years.
 
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I want NOTHING to do with florida right now, their elaborate 2 QB system would destroy our defense. Their defense is faster than OSU's last year, it would be a disaster.
 

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Yes I remember that bowl game well. That was a case when Spurrier and his team treated the game as a blowoff game and didn't take ND seriously. It happens damn near every week in college football when a team doesn't come to play, like Auburn last saturday. Assface didn't have his team ready to play, ND did and played a damn near perfect game.

As i just stated up above, ND could make it game if they played a perfect game and forced a couple turnovers. Any team can be beaten on any given day. But based on what I have seen so far this year, I don't think ND could beat Florida. Not right now. If both teams played to their potential, I dont' think ND would beat them. My opinion. Its not a lack of loyalty, I don't have blind loyalty. I would still root for ND no mater what. the situation, no mater what the record is year after year. I have stuck with them for over 20 years.

You remember it well? Than you remember the Gators jumping out to a 10-0 lead in the 1st Q and opened it to 16-0 before ND got on the board. (Sound familar?)

You remember ND fans whinned at Gary Darnell's 3-2-6 defense put in just for this game as Spurrier's boys rolled up over 500 yards of total offense. (Also sound familar?)

I didn't question your loyalty, feel free to quote me where you think I did. I noted that ND fans like you and punishment didn't want ND to play in that game for the same reasons people didn't want ND to play UF in '91. "We don't match up!" "Our defense is horrible. We'll get killed!" "It would be embarrassing!" "We don't have the speed to play with them!" The same emotions being expressed in this thread about a hypothetical bowl game 7 games and 3 months down the road.

I don't have blind optimism, I SEE signs of progress. I see the sideshow distractions of a pro boxing match, a professional baseball contract, and a Heisman anointing finally being overcome. I see players overcoming the foundation of poor coaching they received in past years, and I see talented freshman and sophomores, now that they have acclimated to Div 1 speed and style of play and have grown into Div 1 players, starting to take their place among their last talented upperclass teammates.


With the lamentations being expressed in this thread and other threads today you'd think ND was 1-5 after playing the easy part of the schedule rather than 5-1 against the toughest schedule played in the nation.

Maybe you'll get lucky and ND will get matched up with the likes of San Jose St (3-1) or some other WAC or MWC mid conference team in the Who Gives A Shit Bowl so the faint of heart won't have to throw objects at the television set and they can brag at the office coffee pot how the Irish whipped them Spartans on Dec 17th. Boy that would be an ND bowl moment, wouldn't it.
 

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Guess you guys weren't fans back in a season when ND went 9-3 giving up 22 points per game (sound familiar) dropping from the 5th ranked team in early November to #17 by the end of the month. Blowing a 21-0 lead against Tenessee and getting ripped the next week by PSU giving up 35 points in both games. Narrowly escaping a third straight defeat in the last regular game beating the Rainbow Warriors 48-42.

There were calls for ND to back out of the Sugar Bowl bid they had received earlier in the month when they were a once beaten team (Michigan). The Irish were matched up against the #3 team in the nation who were coached by the hottest young coach in college football. The week of the game a waiter quipped to the ND head coach, "What's the difference between Notre Dame and Cheerios? Cheerios belong in a bowl!"

Holtz took his maligned team and dismantled Spurrier's "vastly superior" Gators in a game for the ages. A game you guys would not have wanted to take place.

Notre Dame plays the highest ranked team available!

WE ARE ND!


I'm also not like most ND fans who live in the distant past to suggest we are capable of beating anybody. In that case you could have brought up the Army game in 1926.

But more recently, I do remember a BCS bowl last year with a team that had a top 10 defense and an offense with fast receivers, very similar to Florida.
 
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You remember it well? Than you remember the Gators jumping out to a 10-0 lead in the 1st Q and opened it to 16-0 before ND got on the board. (Sound familar?)

You remember ND fans whinned at Gary Darnell's 3-2-6 defense put in just for this game as Spurrier's boys rolled up over 500 yards of total offense. (Also sound familar?)

I didn't question your loyalty, feel free to quote me where you think I did. I noted that ND fans like you and punishment didn't want ND to play in that game for the same reasons people didn't want ND to play UF in '91. "We don't match up!" "Our defense is horrible. We'll get killed!" "It would be embarrassing!" "We don't have the speed to play with them!" The same emotions being expressed in this thread about a hypothetical bowl game 7 games and 3 months down the road.

I don't have blind optimism, I SEE signs of progress. I see the sideshow distractions of a pro boxing match, a professional baseball contract, and a Heisman anointing finally being overcome. I see players overcoming the foundation of poor coaching they received in past years, and I see talented freshman and sophomores, now that they have acclimated to Div 1 speed and style of play and have grown into Div 1 players, starting to take their place among their last talented upperclass teammates.


With the lamentations being expressed in this thread and other threads today you'd think ND was 1-5 after playing the easy part of the schedule rather than 5-1 against the toughest schedule played in the nation.

Maybe you'll get lucky and ND will get matched up with the likes of San Jose St (3-1) or some other WAC or MWC mid conference team in the Who Gives A Shit Bowl so the faint of heart won't have to throw objects at the television set and they can brag at the office coffee pot how the Irish whipped them Spartans on Dec 17th. Boy that would be an ND bowl moment, wouldn't it.


How do you go from one extreme to the other? From Florida to San Jose State, who mentioned San Jose State? The reality is that Florida is similar to last years OSU team. We do not play well against teams with good defenses that can stop our offense. Similar to OSU last year and Michigan this year.

Florida is just that much better than ND. You can buy into all the ND hype you want, but reality says otherwise. Until we can beat a team of the likes of Tennesse and LSU, we can't be put in Florida's league.
 
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If ND comes to the Sugar Bowl, I'll show y'all a bunch of great Irish bars in New Orleans. Maybe we could set up some kind of epic pub crawl.
 

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Florida would be a tough match-up. We would have to play flawlessly on offense and just eat up as much clock as possible. We can use their speed against them. I don't know what kind of defense we would play. I think LSU made them look alot better than what they really are. JaMarcus Russell had 4 turnovers in that game. Everybody is all over his nuts and I just don't see what the big fuss is about. Sure he's a physical specimen and has all the talent in the world, but he's not Vince Young. No where close.
 

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JaMarcus Russell had 4 turnovers in that game. Everybody is all over his nuts and I just don't see what the big fuss is about. Sure he's a physical specimen and has all the talent in the world, but he's not Vince Young. No where close.

True dat.
 
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I don't have blind optimism, I SEE signs of progress. I see the sideshow distractions of a pro boxing match, a professional baseball contract, and a Heisman anointing finally being overcome. I see players overcoming the foundation of poor coaching they received in past years, and I see talented freshman and sophomores, now that they have acclimated to Div 1 speed and style of play and have grown into Div 1 players, starting to take their place among their last talented upperclass teammates.
I see all that as well.
Svo, won't let me give you reps though.
 

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There are four steps to building a program.

Learn How To Compete
Learn How To Win
Learn How To Handle Winning
Win Championships

I'd say right now Weis has these guys somewhere in the 2-3 area. I think the Georgia Tech win is going to end up looking very impressive and Michigan a bad day.

That USC game is going to be another crossroads for Notre Dame Football, just as last year's game was.
 

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I don't have blind optimism, I SEE signs of progress. I see the sideshow distractions of a pro boxing match, a professional baseball contract, and a Heisman anointing finally being overcome. I see players overcoming the foundation of poor coaching they received in past years, and I see talented freshman and sophomores, now that they have acclimated to Div 1 speed and style of play and have grown into Div 1 players, starting to take their place among their last talented upperclass teammates.

I completely agree. Let's just hope it continues into late November.

I'm also not like most ND fans who live in the distant past to suggest we are capable of beating anybody. In that case you could have brought up the Army game in 1926.

BINGO. Some of us have no frame of reference to any of it. This is not my grandpa or dad's Notre Dame. Growing up, I've seen Lou Holtz, two substitue teachers and now The Lord of The Super Bowl Rings. There is more work to be done and the results will follow.
 

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at this point, any bcs bowl opponent would make for a long day for the irish. the defense is not there. our lb's and cb's/safeties would be torched by any of the top 5. and frankly, i don't think our o-line would hold up to give bq and dw protection/holes. let's just get to USC ans then see where the irish are at that point.
 
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at this point, any bcs bowl opponent would make for a long day for the irish. the defense is not there. our lb's and cb's/safeties would be torched by any of the top 5. and frankly, i don't think our o-line would hold up to give bq and dw protection/holes. let's just get to USC ans then see where the irish are at that point.


BOOOOOM. You nailed it. ND has a ton of work to do in the next couple of weeks. People keep whining about WVU and other squads, but WVU would kick ND's ass right now. I absolutely love Notre Dame Du Lac and what they stand for.....but I really don't think they're a top ten team right now.
 

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BOOOOOM. You nailed it. ND has a ton of work to do in the next couple of weeks. People keep whining about WVU and other squads, but WVU would kick ND's ass right now. I absolutely love Notre Dame Du Lac and what they stand for.....but I really don't think they're a top ten team right now.

NO WAY does West Virginia beat the Irish this year. I'm not buying that for a second. I'll buy that ND has work to do, pass defense is not good, blah, blah, blah...but West Virginia? Come one, I just don't see it happening...OVERRATED...clap, clap...clap, clap, clap....OVERRATED...that's what WVU is this year.
 
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