I ask one thing of the fans

[Stealingshrimp]

To realize that brady was not the reason we came back. The YAC the receivers pulled off were amazing, sharks late run, carlsons. I thank weis, the fight, lambert, and the hot cheerleader. If you thank the guy who threw the ball at the DE, and got lucky with the jumpballs, and blah - then you will then let yourself down again next week. Brady needs to recompose himself! JUST BECAUSE WE WON does NOT MAKE HIM A GREAT QB.

 

[marv81s]

He had good stats and it was his audible to carlson that got that long TD to him, but yeah, he missed some passes he shouldn't have. WE GOT A GREAT WIN TONIGHT!! Lets enjoy it and we can critique later.

 

[YoderDame]

Yeah your right, throwing for 5 TD's and for over 300 yards he shouldn't get any accolades!

 

[Stealingshrimp]

Yeah your right, throwing for 5 TD's and for over 300 yards he shouldn't get any accolades!

ANY QB COULD HAVE DONE THAT, pls realize this. I LOVE THIS WIN, dont get me wrong. BUT JESUS, he was awful. Get over the stats and really watch it. If stanton was our QB we would have waxxed these guys by 40.

 

[lattedatte]

I'll be the first to admit that if we lost that game he would have been the reason. He looked lost in the first quarter and gave the other team 7 points on the pick 6. But he got his head together and played great the rest of the game and deserves a whole hell of a lot of credit for that.

He was considered the #1 qb in the nation coming in, I would argue that one and a quarter bad games doesn't change that. He's a great qb.

 

[isotopes]

I don't know if you realize this but with replacing brady with a qb who is top ten if not top 5 in the NCAA right now thats not the biggest drop in the world. He managed the ball very good and began to get comfortable and shake off the some things. He played very good, is there room for improvement, yes, but you have to give the kid his credit it was a balsy come from behind win and once his rhythm was there he looked nearly flawless.

Playing quarterback isnt just about making all the throws, like I said its about being able to optimistic when down and to be a good leader. Around the middle of the second quarter he comes off the side and gets in samardzija's face and the next drive jeff catches a touchdown pass.

And finally i'd like to point out there are very few quarterbacks in the country who make that throw to rhema for mcknights second td

 

[maison bleu]

BQ definitely wasn't the reason for the comeback. But it wasn't YAC either. It was Drew Stanton's three TOs in the 4th Q.

 

[isotopes]

was last week michigan or was in BQ's turnovers?

 

[lattedatte]

was last week michigan or was in BQ's turnovers?

great comeback, rep points...

 

[wahoo]

Brady just showed what happens when he gets a little time to throw. In the 1st half the protection wasn't very good. If Brady has time to throw, he'll make the plays. I still think they have to find a way to run the ball

 

[Bubba]

BQ definitely wasn't the reason for the comeback. But it wasn't YAC either. It was Drew Stanton's three TOs in the 4th Q.

Your true colors are showing, Maison. I was under the impression that you evaluated games fairly, but it seems you have judged this game differently than last week's. So, BQ was the reason for last weeks loss, but gets no credit for this win? Or, Michigan gets no credit for last week's win? Which is it?

Is this your RWE impression??? he, he - j/k.

 

[nshope]

BQ continued to fight when he wasn't having the best of nights. That first half was awful, but he persevered and brought the team back. He by NO means did it on his own. Carlson had a huge TD run and McNight has a wonderful end zone catch. However, BQ could've packed it up and waved goodbye to this one and he didn't. He looked much, much better in the 2nd half as a result of being relaxed and having time to throw.

 

[marv81s]

Let's see, he has no running game to help support him, his O-line, for the most part, isn't giving him enough time to set his feet and find a receiver, some receiver isn't running routes like he should be, and some drops. When you can't set your feet, you either over throw or under throw the ball, when your getting knocked on your ass every other time you drop back, you get happy feet. BQ will be fine and will start looking like the old BQ, when this O-line gets their shit together and starts playing the way they should be playing.

 

[tommy]

im still on your side bq mental toughness

 

[solo]

BQ's stock is falling fast. He is our leader and will lead us to another good season, but he is a shadow of the QB he was last year. I think the pressure of the Heisman and a potential NC run have gotten to him. 4 games into the season he hasn't played a complete game yet. He has looked like a deer in the headlights in the 1st quarter of every game. He's throwing high, he's throwing behind his receivers, he is trhowing into double and triple coverage, he's putting the ball grabs, he is not throwing spirals. If defenses like GT, Michigan, and OSU are stumping him, what happens at the next level?

You can look at his stats and be impressed. But gameday tape reveals a different story. If he continues playing like this he drops to the 2nd round. Again, we can still have a nice season even if BQ doesn't show up for the 1st quarter of every game, but that type of performance won't get him drafted in the first round.

 

[SillyIrish]

I guess that pass to mcknight in the endzone was a poorly thrown ball, not many qbs could make that throw.

 

[maison bleu]

Your true colors are showing, Maison. I was under the impression that you evaluated games fairly, but it seems you have judged this game differently than last week's. So, BQ was the reason for last weeks loss, but gets no credit for this win? Or, Michigan gets no credit for last week's win? Which is it?

Is this your RWE impression??? he, he - j/k.

I'll stand by my point: Stanton (with a big assist from the MSU coaches) did more to advance ND's cause in the fourth quarter last night than any single Irish player.

Last week, Michigan outplayed the Irish along the line of scrimage and so would have won the game under almost any scenario. But without NDs 5 TOs, it wouldn't have been a route. It would have been a much tighter game.

In both games, TOs contributed contributed significantly to the outcome.

Frankly, y'all are the ones who need to be consistent. You (not you personally) over react when ND loses and when they win. The Irish are a much better team than they showed last week, but you won last night because Sparty choked.

 

[tommy]

no stanton got took fire and passion and determination took over the dukes body sure they practice stripping the ball but when its game time you have to do it and he did you act like nd was on the bench and it was just msu out their playing with them selves

 

[Vince Young]

...but you won last night because Sparty choked.

And why, exactly, did Sparty choke?

Nothing happens in a vacuum. And the last time I checked, there were 2 teams in that stadium last night, not just 1.

 

[marv81s]

and michigan fans aren't the same way? If Michigan would have lost that game, nobody would have been calling for Carr's head? The season is full of ups and downs, anybody who gives a shit about their teams is going to be pissed and/or disappointed after they lose aren't they? Please, Michigan fans are no different than ND fans and vice versa.

 

[tommy]

great point scUMer fans where saying if we the skunkbears dont win against the great nd i will never watch another scUMmer game

 

[rontdtarchala]

we played horribly bottom line...and turnovers completely change a game...the scumbear game did not show what we can do if we play like we are capable of because we got behind so fast we took ourselves out of our game plan...the scumbears have a good team not a great team we made them look great...I have never been as high as most of you when it comes to BQ and never will be...he has had the benefit of incredible receivers...he is 98% of the time too high too low too short too long...he does however have a never say die attitude that I love...as for the pass to rhema in the end zone...it was good but please lets not make him the savior here, he IS NOT the only qb in the country that makes those kinds of plays....geez

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

I find it best to keep the opinion I have of brady quinn to myself.
the guy played two rough years of football,gets a guru for a coach and has an outstanding year last year and all of a suuden the media makes him out to be the best quarterback in the nation.
That's a lot of pressure for anyone,especailly behind a o-line that has a freshman as the best player...go figure...

brady gets the job done !!!!!

 

[Stealingshrimp]

I really want every single person on this board to watch all the games last year. Look for several balls that shouldn't hav been caught, caught by 2 of the best receivers in college football. Look for missed screen passes, overthrown deep balls, underthrown deep balls, JUMP balls. Watch how his stats become padded with screen passes(which he still somehow misses). This really is the same brady quinn as last year. It's just this year, DC's are more prepared AND the defenses have been better so far.
Brady completes 1 pass very well, and that's the receivers running 5 yard slants over the middle. Please point me to a game last year where he was money(over 10 yards), and I'll stop my rants on him.
The receivers were all 2 steps ahead of everybody on the first few drives yesterday, brady just couldn't get the ball to anyone. The O-line was even playing very well, darius was throwing his body at blitzes, and carlson was doing a hell of a job blockign as well. Then he throws the ball in traffic to a receiver(darius) who isn't even looking. These are not things a heisman hopeful, much less a 4th year senior QB do. Please watch the old games. Stanton in weis's offense would be deadly.

 

[solo]

You know where Stanton would be truly deadly? Urban Meyers offense. MSU is running the spread option, but I think he would be even better in Meyer's version.

 

[mirertobrooks]

Wow, I've been gone awhile, I didn't realize everyone decided to turn on our QB. A few quick notes I'd like to review with you:
1. Being the ND QB carries more pressure then anyone playing on Sundays.
2. Are you all forgetting the rain and 35 mph winds last night, next time the weather is bad in your area, go outside with your buddies and throw the ball around, trust me you'll look stupid.
3. Leading your team to 2 comebacks, can you question his toughness in either game.
4. 2 of the 3 picks weren't his fault vs Mich.
5. No running game
6. Piss poor OL blocking most of the time
7. 11 td vs 4 int
8. Don't ever forget about the first 2 years this guys took a beaten, Drew couldn't take that abuse.
I could go on and on, BQ performs under a microscope, lay off, QB is the most difficult position to play in all of sports.

By the way Drew Stanton was 10/22 with 2 pics and a fumble last night, which game were you watching?

 

[marv81s]

Awsome post Mirertobrooks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[solo]

Wow, I've been gone awhile, I didn't realize everyone decided to turn on our QB. A few quick notes I'd like to review with you:
1. Being the ND QB carries more pressure then anyone playing on Sundays.
2. Are you all forgetting the rain and 35 mph winds last night, next time the weather is bad in your area, go outside with your buddies and throw the ball around, trust me you'll look stupid.
3. Leading your team to 2 comebacks, can you question his toughness in either game.
4. 2 of the 3 picks weren't his fault vs Mich.
5. No running game
6. Piss poor OL blocking most of the time
7. 11 td vs 4 int
8. Don't ever forget about the first 2 years this guys took a beaten, Drew couldn't take that abuse.
I could go on and on, BQ performs under a microscope, lay off, QB is the most difficult position to play in all of sports.

By the way Drew Stanton was 10/22 with 2 pics and a fumble last night, which game were you watching?

To address a few of your points:

1. While I agree that being the QB at ND is pressure packed. Playing QB in the NFL is potentially life ending. Tghe speed of the game is SO much faster. The guys are bigger, faster, and stronger than in college. The defenses are WAY more complex. Every guy out their on that field on Sunday is a stud. Even the guys on the bench are. So while the QB position at ND carries a greta deal of mental pressure, playing on Sunday is far more difficult than playing on Saturday due to the level of competiton.

2, We aren't talking about BQ looking bad in just one game, he's been off in every game. He has not been ready to play in the 1st quarter of any game. Last year we looked crisp on our first drive of every game, this year we look out of sync.

3. I agree that he never quit in any game. But then again, I thought we assumed this from every player on every ND team.

4, 5. Totally agree. The lack of a running threat is absolutely hurting him and several of his INT's were not his fault.

6. Other than having trouble picking up blitzes, I think the OL is doing a decent job in pass protection.

7. 11 TD's to 4 INT's is excellent (but not as good as last year)

8. Touhg to say how Stanton would have done in our system under Tyrone. Too many variables to consider.

Overall, I still like BQ as our QB. I am just not so certain now that he will be an excellent pro and no longer consider him a top 10 pick in the draft. Time will tell though.

 

[Indydomer]

Brady Quinn played like shit. He can't throw a swing pass to a back out of the backfield for shit. The touchdowns he threw were because of the receivers. Carlson, long run, Sam good run, and a great catch by McKnight. He looked like shit early missing the rb and the out passes. He needs to settle down like he kind of did late and quit choking.

He looks like Payton Manning in a big game. Choke Choke.

Come on Brady I know you are better than this. I think he is a hell of a qb. He just needs to get his head on straight and play ball.

 

[jiggafini19]

To this point, he just isn't living up to the hype that was given to him. Fair or unfair, that is the case.

And there are reasons for that, mainly that offensive line in front of him. Good tackles, bad interior. He sure likes the second half of MSU games, huh?

Right now, even through 4 games, Quinn is still at the top of most NFL lists as far as the number one QB and overall pick. That says a lot.

Unfortunately, he's probably going to end up with a team that has an even worse O line and will wind up getting killed. If he goes to the Raiders, Brady Quinn could end up getting a heavy dose of Shawn Merriman and evaporate into the Pacific Ocean.

If they don't get him killed this year first....