Big East uprising??

[lattedatte]

Week 1..

Pitt beats UVA(ACC)
Rutgers beats UNC(ACC)
Louisville beats UK(SEC)

Week 2..

Rutgers shuts out Ill(B10). (thanks for recruiting purposes)
Cuse takes Iowa to OT.

This conference might be better then the Pac 10.. just saying...

If you are not convinced Pitt plays Mich. st, Louisville plays Miami and WVU plays Maryland. Would they go 3-0 would you be convinced then??

just wondering what people think??

 

[marv81s]

hell no i still wouldn't be impressed. Iowa took Cuse too lightly, plus no drew tate, Illinois is Illinois, plus Rutgers had a bitter taste in their mouth from last years game when they blew that lead. Kentucky is probably the 2nd weakest team in the SEC. Michigan State hasn't played up to their potential yet, they don't get up for these lower games, so lets remember that they only get fired up for maybe 3 games a year, then go staight to hell the rest. Maryland is also weak at best. Only win I would be impressed with is Louisville, and considering Miami's Offense, or lack there of, that is a stretch. Big East is weak as hell, I would say they are barely above the MAC conference, well, that is a bit of an exaggeration, but you get my drift.

 

[Óglaigh_na_hÉireann]

Yep, they havn't really played anyone yet..so, I'm not a believer yet.

 

[lattedatte]

interesting, I agree with most of the thoughts but other than USC the PAC is really really bad. The 2nd best team got crushed by UT, who beat Air force this week by 1 pt. I don't know. I'll give the nod to the Pac 10, but if the big east wins all 3 this week, I may just change my mind. I've been slightly impressed by the second tier teams beating up on the other conference second tier. Good thoughts though...

 

[Dannyboy Ayers]

my brothers high school team has more talent than the Big YEast

 

[jiggafini19]

Pitt needs to get better and I think they will in a few years.

WVU, Louisville and Pitt can form a nice core at the top. Then someone else needs to step up. If Cuse could get back to respectable like they were with McNabb, it could be pretty decent.

Otherwise, the cupboard raiding of the ACC is going to linger for a long time.

 

[onenybrother]

Danny you are sadly mistaking if you dont believe the Big East have talent. Not Pac10 type talent but they are getting there.

 

[Dannyboy Ayers]

Danny you are sadly mistaking if you dont believe the Big East have talent. Not Pac10 type talent but they are getting there.

getting there and being there are two differant things

 

[lattedatte]

getting there and being there are two differant things

Dannyboy you are way off, there's plenty o talent in the big east.

WVU:
White, Slaton, Mozes..

Louisville:
Brohm, Bush

Pitt:
Palko, Blades and Revis

Rutgers:
Rice

Most of these guys could start anywhere.

I'm looking at the P10 results for the first two weeks, guys you really should check it out they are not looking good at all especially against non-conference foes.

Please don't miscontrue what I'm saying, I still rank the BE no higher then the 5th best conference... SEC by far #1, B10, ACC, B12, BE, P10... just my opinion..

 

[scooper]

I don't think the BE is better than the other power conferences, but they are not the mid major people portray them to be. Louisville and WVU would be very competitive in any conference. Pitt has some talent, but maybe not on the sidelines. I love what Schiano is doing at Rutgers. Rice and Leonard are better than most RB/FB combos in the country.

Teams like Cincinnati, Central Florida and Syracuse need to bring the bottom half up to respectable. There is talent around Cincy and FL. to do that. I'm not sure what's happening to UConn. Their future looked bright, but they have had a couple rough years now.

 

[lattedatte]

It's official the BE is legit... 31-7 louisville over Miami(Fla.) with 9 minutes left.. wow.. This conference has two teams that could beat anyone. and the other teams are coming along nicely. I can't wait to go to the louisville/WVU game, then the breeders cup at Churchill downs, what a weekend that will be.

 

[marv81s]

Good statement game from Louisville, not so much from Pitt

 

[lattedatte]

agreed but all of a sudden Rutgers is turning out to be not bad, don't get me wrong they would still get beat by the top teir teams...... And Pitt is of the least of my concern becuase they are recruiting the best out of all of them, so they'll be good eventually.. the pac 10 sucks other than USC.

 

[lattedatte]

Anybody ready to agree with me yet that the BE is now a legit conference... I would say this year they are equal to the P10, B10 and ACC. SEC and B12 are way better than all others THIS YEAR....

 

[maison bleu]

Anybody ready to agree with me yet that the BE is now a legit conference... I would say this year they are equal to the P10, B10 and ACC. SEC and B12 are way better than all others THIS YEAR....

Nope. Miami sucks, they're going down in flames, Coker gets canned any minute. In their last three games against D-1, they scored barely 10 points total. And we've seen how little the close game at home agaisnt FSU meant.

Ditto for Rutgers-Illinois.

Sparty puts up 41 in Pitt's house. I bet at least half the teams in the MAC would hold Sparty under 40 on their home fields. Here's where I see the Big Least is: a step above the MAC.

Plus, the Big 12? Are you high? Texas, OK, and Nebraska--that's it, and they all have one loss already, with a round robbin ahead... Colorado? Totally in the toilet. Both the Pac 10 and Big 10 are clearly superior.

 

[lattedatte]

Nope. Miami sucks, they're going down in flames, Coker gets canned any minute. In their last three games against D-1, they scored barely 10 points total. And we've seen how little the close game at home agaisnt FSU meant.

Ditto for Rutgers-Illinois.

Sparty puts up 41 in Pitt's house. I bet at least half the teams in the MAC would hold Sparty under 40 on their home fields. Here's where I see the Big Least is: a step above the MAC.

Plus, the Big 12? Are you high? Texas, OK, and Nebraska--that's it, and they all have one loss already, with a round robbin ahead... Colorado? Totally in the toilet. Both the Pac 10 and Big 10 are clearly superior.

lol, I knew that would be the excuse, now it's becuase Miami is down, even thought Louisville played the entire game w/o bush and 4th quarter with a backup QB... FSU almost lost to TROY. Duke, Va., UNC all suck.. WVU beat up on Maryland.. The ACC is down this year, bad..

The big 12 had a horrendous weekend and their schedule vs out of conf teams is putred..

The pac 10 other that USC sucks..

O well I guess we will just have to wait until bowl season to see..

 

[marv81s]

Big 10 clearly superior? I don't know about that now, our conference has Illinois, Indiana that lost to SIU, Purdue is are close to be bottom dwellers lately, Northwestern who lost to New Hampshire. Then you have Wiscconsin, Minnesota, Penn State and Mich State that are above average, then you have Iowa, Michigan, OSU. SEC is probably the best conference, then i would call it a toss up between the Big 12 and the Big 10.

but i agree that the Big East is still hasn't legitimized anything as far as I'm concerned about being a legit conference. Miami is fading this year for some reason. WV still hasn't played anybody, Rutgers has played good ball, but still hasn't played anyone. Louisvilled is the only team right now that is a good all around team.

 

[BGIF]

lol, I knew that would be the excuse, now it's becuase Miami is down, even thought Louisville played the entire game w/o bush and 4th quarter with a backup QB... FSU almost lost to TROY. Duke, Va., UNC all suck.. WVU beat up on Maryland.. The ACC is down this year, bad..

So the point is because the ACC is down this year perhaps even to the subpar level of the Big East that the Big East has arrived?

We're bad but we're better than they're bad!

Big East still leads the nation in couch burnings.

 

[lattedatte]

So the point is because the ACC is down this year perhaps even to the subpar level of the Big East that the Big East has arrived?

We're bad but we're better than they're bad!

Big East still leads the nation in couch burnings.

Good question and a stupid comment(but I know you are just tying to instigate me becuase I like WVU and respect what they do). I'm just sick of people bad mouthing the BE. I'm not sure I really have a point other than the BE has much claim to the BCS games as the ACC, B12 and P10.

FYI - Ohio St fans burnt couches after their UT win this year, so thus far this year the B10 leads in couch burnings..

 

[jiggafini19]

There is a lot more parity now because of the 85 rule.

Guys don't want to sit for two years. They've got to get in right away and bolt after three years for the NFL dollars.

I-AA's snuck up this September and won some games. Say what you want about Illinois, but at least they beat their I-AA. Indiana lost to Southern Illinois. Zero excuse for that.

Wait another 5 years, then another 10 years. There will still be haves and have nots, but the playing field will be changed yet again.

 

[lattedatte]

Anybody ready to agree that the BE isn't that bad yet? 4 teams in the top 26. One things for sure, anybody that said they are equal to the MAC or WAC is just wrong.

Other conf.
SEC - 6
B10 - 4
B12 - 4
ACC - 3
P10 - 3

 

[jerseyborn1971]

All the BCS conferences have a few teams that are very good, a few teams that are average and a few that are terrible. If you throw out the top 2 and bottom 2 of each conference, they are all pretty equal. The SEC would be the only stand-out.

 

[jiggafini19]

The Big Ten is pretty top heavy. tOSU, scUM and Wisconsin. Not much else.

I think Iowa is highly overrated. tOSU gave them a beatdown and scUM will do the same. Drew Tate gets a lot of attention because of his size. If he were 6-3, no one would care about him and he'd be average.

I've seen them this year agaisnt Illinois, tOSU and Indiana. They weren't very impressive at all.

Lots of balance. Nebraska appears to be coming back a little bit.

The ACC is garbage.

 

[TonyTiger]

I'm impressed with WVU and Louisville, Rutgers and Pitt arent horrible either...but at this point in the season I'm not impressed with the Big East.

Like I said, I think West Virginia and Lousiville are both great teams. But Rutgers isnt hasnt played anyone thats tough, either has Pitt (Who got pounded by MSU). And I wouldnt say that Southern Florida is horrible either, but they arent great.

But Syracuse, Cincinnati, and UConn are horrible.

 

[TonyTiger]

I think Iowa is highly overrated. tOSU gave them a beatdown and scUM will do the same. Drew Tate gets a lot of attention because of his size. If he were 6-3, no one would care about him and he'd be average.

Usually, I would disagree with you...but this is definatly a down year for Iowa. Tate isnt playing great, but he gets alot of attention because of his "heart" and the fact that he dosent give up. And 6-3 isnt exactly monsterous, so you confused me there.

 

[lattedatte]

I'm impressed with WVU and Louisville, Rutgers and Pitt arent horrible either...but at this point in the season I'm not impressed with the Big East.

Like I said, I think West Virginia and Lousiville are both great teams. But Rutgers isnt hasnt played anyone thats tough, either has Pitt (Who got pounded by MSU). And I wouldnt say that Southern Florida is horrible either, but they arent great.

But Syracuse, Cincinnati, and UConn are horrible.

O, I agree there are some horrible teams, but I definitely believe they deserve the BCS link. Unlike the MAC and WAC and I think this year they are better than the ACC and maybe even the B12 and P10. Definitely not the SEC. B10 is likely better as well just becuase you guys have the 1 and 2 teams in the country.

 

[Guest]

I'm still not a believer. WVU and Louisville don't bring in enough talent, sure they have some nice players(Brohm, Slaton, Bush etc) but overall they're nowhere near the talent of the other top 10 teams. WVU rarely even crackes the top 40 in recruiting, sure stars aren't everything but you do have to give them some credence, especially since its a proven fact you need consensus top 20 talent to win a national championship, at least thats been the case the last 20 years.

Its not fair that either of these teams have a shot at a NC, they play NOBODY. Everyone else has to endure a tough schedule, or at least a few tough games, and even great teams can lose one or two along the way because its so hard to be on top of your game every week against quality opponents. WVU , and UL don't have to worry about this.

I've watched a few WVU games, and sure their offense is potent, but what speedy defenses have they face? I doubt Pat White runs for 200 yards on OSU, or Michigan's D. I highly doubt they score 40 or 50 points on these teams, and they definitely don't have a good defense. If WVU played in the SEC they wouldn't even be a bowl team IMO, I just can't see that gimicky offense working in the SEC or the top part of the Big Ten, looks nice against crappy slow teams though, much like Urban's offense looked great at Utah, and has been unimmpressive to say the least at Florida. Louisville would have a better shot with their offense, but their defense stinks also. And lets not forget, Louisville lost to USF last year, and almost lost to Cinncy last week.

I like the Big East, and I hope some of the nations elite players start going to those schools, but for now its not a good conference. It is getting there, Louisville's recruiting has been improving every year, and if Petrino stays there its only a matter of time before he's landing top 20 classes. WVU's recruiting should continue to improve, and Wanny at Pitt has done an excellent job recruiting for Pitt. Rutgers has been a nice story, and if Schiano stays and Rutgers continues to win its only a matter of time before they start keeping some of the instate talent(thats another reason I can't take Rutgers record seriously right now, they bring in third tier talent in their own state, and 4th or 5th tier talent in Florida.) Big East needs a couple more years of stability..

 

[tommy]

i think every one would agree that the big east is a step above the wac and mac but thats about it the sec is just unreal

 

[TheIrishHammer]

Only a fagala couldn't see that Rutgers deserves to be in the BCS*

Only a fagala couldn't see that Rutgers deserves to be in the BCS*

jjjj

 

[Seymore]

I'm still not a believer. WVU and Louisville don't bring in enough talent, sure they have some nice players(Brohm, Slaton, Bush etc) but overall they're nowhere near the talent of the other top 10 teams. WVU rarely even crackes the top 40 in recruiting, sure stars aren't everything but you do have to give them some credence, especially since its a proven fact you need consensus top 20 talent to win a national championship, at least thats been the case the last 20 years.

Its not fair that either of these teams have a shot at a NC, they play NOBODY. Everyone else has to endure a tough schedule, or at least a few tough games, and even great teams can lose one or two along the way because its so hard to be on top of your game every week against quality opponents. WVU , and UL don't have to worry about this...

Amen Brother !