Brady Quinn's weakness

[NDAlumSon]

He's a good one with the potential to be great this year and on Sundays.
But....The one weakness he does have and one which did NOT improve
as last year went on is the "checkdown, dump-off pass" or really any
horizontal pattern run by a potential receiver. I can think of a half dozen
times last year where he missed, typically throwing behind, his target
on underneath crossing or halfback dumpoff passes. The most glaring and
most costly example was when he missed Schwapp on 3rd down in the SC
game costing them points.
No doubt the coaches recognize this and have him working on these "touch" passes.
This is the only aspect of his throwing that I see needs drastic improvement.
Any thoughts?

 

[AlbuquerqueIrishFan]

He's a good one with the potential to be great this year and on Sundays.
But....The one weakness he does have and one which did NOT improve
as last year went on is the "checkdown, dump-off pass" or really any
horizontal pattern run by a potential receiver. I can think of a half dozen
times last year where he missed, typically throwing behind, his target
on underneath crossing or halfback dumpoff passes. The most glaring and
most costly example was when he missed Schwapp on 3rd down in the SC
game costing them points.
No doubt the coaches recognize this and have him working on these "touch" passes.
This is the only aspect of his throwing that I see needs drastic improvement.
Any thoughts?

I did notice that a bit last year. I know Charlie's been working on everything, so I suspect that area will improve from last year.

 

[domerfor life]

Yeah, I noticed that too. That one to Schwapp really hurt. It's a good problem to have though. He has to learn how to control the power. Other then that, I have absolutely no complaints. Brady's good.

 

[Pete]

The Schwapp one I blame on schwapp. It looked to me that he stopped running,

 

[NDAlumSon]

Domerfor life, you're probably right. It's learning to control his power.
He certainly does have some big "guns" on him for a quarterback.
If he finds some "touch" on those short ones, he could make
a fortune on the side teaching Shaq how to make a damn "FREE" throw!

 

[Irish Envy]

The Schwapp one I blame on schwapp. It looked to me that he stopped running,

Yeah, I still put that on Schwapp, too. Brady led him right to the end zone with that pass and I fully believe if Schwapp was a senior, he runs through the pass, catches it and puts it in for 6.

 

[jiggafini19]

That ball was about 5 feet over his head. Yao Ming could not have caught it.

He stopped running because the ball sailed over his head....way over.

 

[NDAlumSon]

I'm afraid I gotta agree with jigga on this one boys.
It was not a good throw. Too hard, too high, way too
far out in front.

 

[domerfor life]

The Schwapp one I blame on schwapp. It looked to me that he stopped running,

Schwapp would have had to possess a 50-inch vert to get that pass. That pass was high. He was open and all Brady had to do was dump it off. If he didn't score, he would have come real close to scoring. He was wide open. It still brings pain when I talk about it.

 

[domerfor life]

Plus, Schwapp found a soft spot and settled in the soft part of the defense. There was no need to keep running. He was open by 10 yds. I will take a deep breath now. D*mn the starter of this thread.

 

[NDAlumSon]

Sorry to open old wounds. All in the interest of growth.........and 1st downs.

 

[guff]

My only memory of the USC game is Zibby arriving way late on the pass to Jarrett on 4th and 9.

Quinn isn't perfect. He may not have the greatest touch but it's tough to argue with 65%, 3900 yds, 32 tds and only 7 ints.

 

[Gizmo]

I'm not sure if I feel comfortable using the word "blame," but I'll put that incomplete pass on RPN and Schwapp. As a senior, if RPN had been in that game he continues to run the route and catches the pass (I thought it could have been caught). RPN and Brady had a lot more reps together in practice than did Brady and Schwapp and RPN was more in sync with Brady. RPN or a more seasoned Schwapp catch that pass.

 

[jiggafini19]

I thought Schwapp did well for being a "true" freshmen that was a two star fullback from Connecticut. The fumble against MSU was probably not a position he should have been put into in the first place, but he made the mistake nonetheless. I expect great things from him in 2006, especially on the blocking side of things. Darius Walker will owe him a "thank you meal" or two before all is said and done.

I think with Weis and Vaas in his corner, plus the fact that he is a very intelligent young man, Brady Quinn knows exactly what he has to work on and will do so. I think you're going to see an upgraded version of the 2005 #10 in 2006.

Let's keep this thread about Quinn and not about the USC game. My mental health coverage went through the roof having been at that game live. Dad's electroshock treatments ended in time for Christmas.

Excuse me, "The Holidays."

 

[mirertobrooks]

I'd like to forget that day.

 

[NDXUFan]

A dark day in ND Football History.

NDXUFan

 

[NDAlumSon]

Jigga's right here. The thread was supposed to be about Brady's abilities, specifically his inaccuracy on short "touch" passes. I think we've established that.... one, it was indeed a shortcoming in his game last year.... two, it most assuredly has been recognized by Brady and his coaches and hence is being worked on and....three, he's too good a quarterback and student of the game not to improve upon this particular skill for the upcoming campaign.

As far as the USC game is concerned, while it was certainly "glaring" at the moment, it did NOT cost them the game. It certainly cost them a 1st down. Maybe(?) cost them 6 points.
But absolutely DID NOT lose the game for them. There were more costly mistakes in the MSU loss and even less costly mistakes in some of the wins.

 

[BigMattWW04]

Brady Quinn's weakness? Kryptonite? LOL just playing.

 

[scooper]

I think it's a fair criticism. I thought he was especially inaccurate in crossing patterns during the Michigan game. He overthrew some wide open guys over the middle. That game did not have to be that close.

 

[BigIrish]

despite the 'all-world' reputation the media is giving him, i think (as do many on these boards) that quinn will show marked improvement from last year. he played exceptionally well, but he still only had one spring/summer camp under weis. another year will show significant improvement in the finer points of his passing game - the short crossing routes in particular.

of all the things to worry about prior to the start of next season, brady quinn's improvement won't be one of them for me.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Quinn isn't perfect. He may not have the greatest touch but it's tough to argue with 65%, 3900 yds, 32 tds and only 7 ints.

Definitely nothing to argue with...but if he improves his soft touch a little bit he will win the Heisman for sure. If he improves on his #'s from last year...he will be a shoe-in.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

of all the things to worry about prior to the start of next season, brady quinn's improvement won't be one of them for me.

No kidding... Quinn is the least of our worries.

If I could see one thing change dramatically...it would be to stop seeing our guys in the secondary biting on the play action.