New USC recruiting tactic

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Interesting tidbit from an article by ESPN.com NFL beat writer Len Pasquarelli on USC's Pro Day, which was held yesterday. Given the number of players expected to be drafted (up to 5 in the first round), every NFL team sent scouts.

According to Pasquarelli, USC "had 200 potential recruits on campus for the weekend, and the presence of so many NFL scouts certainly didn't hurt [Pete Carroll] when he delivered his sales pitch to possible future Trojans stars."

There were also 1500-2000 people in the stands, adding to the spectacle.

I'm not sure what he means by "potential recruits", maybe some kind of Junior Day?

But the idea of using Pro Day as a recruiting tool... Never heard of it, but I don't follow recruiting closely. Any one else heard of this? Seems like a great idea.

The Pasquarelli story
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2394532
 

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This is the first I've ever heard of it. I suppose it would be a good idea. After all, that's all SC really wants to sell about themselves anyway is football.

I never thought I could hate a college football team more than Michigan, but at least I can respect them a little bit. I have ZERO respect for the culture of the program at SC. Strictly a football academy and nothing more. Call me cynical, but I don't think those guys really need to do much other than wade through their class schedule and show up for practice on time.

Note the part about Leinart's arm strength being adequate. Get used to that because that's all he'll be in the NFL. They're really overhyping him.
 
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I read NFL execs were really not happy about it. Most pro days are during the week. They weren't happy to have to travel to L.A. on the weekend, but what can they do? That's where the talent is.
 

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jiggafini19 said:
Note the part about Leinart's arm strength being adequate. Get used to that because that's all he'll be in the NFL. They're really overhyping him.

Yeah, as a sometime Saints fan, I'm glad they took a chance on Brees rather than drafting Leinart. Too many questions for such a high pick. Arm strength, foot speed, his Hollywood lifestyle...
 

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Yeah, as a sometime Saints fan, I'm glad they took a chance on Brees rather than drafting Leinart. Too many questions for such a high pick. Arm strength, foot speed, his Hollywood lifestyle...

There isn't much that separates him from Ken Dorsey. He's better, but they're pretty much the same guy.

I could see USC becoming the modern day Miami of the 1980s. They'll churn out football players and not many graduates.
 

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Yeah, as a sometime Saints fan, I'm glad they took a chance on Brees rather than drafting Leinart. Too many questions for such a high pick. Arm strength, foot speed, his Hollywood lifestyle...


Don't forget the ballroom dancing class. That might help Leinart's footwork.

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They had a whole article in the newspaper today about this.They said it was like a circus.

Reggie Bush ran a 4.33 40, Lendale White refused to run a 40 which pissed off many NFL scouts, Leinart was said to be average.

Leinart seems like he wants to be a star off the field, everyone says he's dying to be a Jet and was even quoted saying the Jets haven't had a star on and off the field since Joe Namath, and that he could be that type of guy for them. Is this a good thing? He needs to focus on football and not fall into the limelight. Rumor is the Jets have no interest in him, they already have a QB with a weak arm in Chad Pennington.

Justice had a great workout.

A total of 19 players participated, wow....
 

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They had a whole article in the newspaper today about this.They said it was like a circus.
Reggie Bush ran a 4.33 40, Lendale White refused to run a 40 which pissed off many NFL scouts, Leinart was said to be average.
Leinart seems like he wants to be a star off the field, everyone says he's dying to be a Jet and was even quoted saying the Jets haven't had a star on and off the field since Joe Namath, and that he could be that type of guy for them. Is this a good thing? He needs to focus on football and not fall into the limelight. Rumor is the Jets have no interest in him, they already have a QB with a weak arm in Chad Pennington.
Justice had a great workout.
A total of 19 players participated, wow....


LenDale White was also 244lbs and looked 'soft', not ripped or Barryoided up. Says it was due to a lingering hammie....also did one LESS press rep than the PUNTER.
 

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I'm VERY disappointed in LenDale White at this point. I really felt that he would be the best pro of them all, but he's turned out to be fat and arrogant since the Rose Bowl. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole right now.

Leinart wants to go to New York and have that rock star lifestyle that he has in LA as a collegiate player. He'll get a fat bonus, live where there is all f*ck to do and probably get to screw Tara Reid. He probably figures it won't get any better than his SC career and that is probably right. I think Cutler and Vince Young have more hunger for football at this point.

Bush will be a good player, but I don't think he's an every down NFL back and at 202 lbs he could really take a beating. Still, he is an amazing talent and after a long time of debating this, I think he deserves to be number one. D'Brickashaw Ferguson is probably more of a need for the Texans at OT, but Bush is too good to pass up.

All three of those O Linemen should be solid, though Lutusi and Matua probably need to shed some weight. But those three guys will be good. Justice has some past character issues.

The fullback Kirkman would be a nice solid player on NFL special teams. Dominique Byrd seems too small for the NFL at tight end.
 

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Isn't mixing potential recruits, current players and NFL scouts some sort of NCAA violation? If coaches can get in trouble for calling one too many times a week, then certainly bringing in recruits when tons of NFL people are present should be.
 
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Leinart's Broadway audition

QB readies a Namath sequel plot

By RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Matt Leinart throws around idea he could be next Joe Namath if Jets take him.

LOS ANGELES - In three seasons as USC's quarterback, Matt Leinart went 37-2, played in three national championship games and won the Heisman Trophy. Despite his to-die-for resume, he felt he had something to prove to NFL scouts yesterday at the school's "Pro Day" - a Hollywood production so grandiose that it would've made Cecil B. DeMille blush.
After four hours under the hot sun, not to mention the white-hot glare from prospective employers (including the Jets), Leinart seemed confident he had debunked the notion that he's a touch-and-timing passer with limited mobility.

Though no one appeared blown away by his throwing performance, Leinart did receive favorable reviews from coaches and GMs. More than 200 NFL types were in attendance, including two members of the Jets' personnel department, former GM Terry Bradway and JoJo Wooden.

That the new head honchos, GM Mike Tannenbaum and coach Eric Mangini, didn't attend the workout might seem revealing, but know this: An entire Jets entourage, including the bosses, will be in Los Angeles on April 17 to huddle with Leinart, the Daily News learned. That session will include a workout and a skull session in the classroom.

The Jets, picking fourth in the April 29 draft, could be in position to select the former Southern Cal star. And that would be just fine with Leinart.

"I love New York, I'm a fan of the city," Leinart told The News an hour after his workout, relaxing with friends at a burger joint a few blocks from campus. "It's out of my hands, but to have the possibility of playing for the New York Jets, it would be sweet. It would be cool.

"Broadway Joe (Namath) is the last big-time guy they've had, a star on and off the field," he continued. "I'm confident that I could be that kind of player."

The Jets' long-term future at quarterback is uncertain, with Chad Pennington coming off shoulder surgery and recently acquired Patrick Ramsey having only one year left on his contract. A player of Leinart's magnitude would give the organization a much-needed jolt of electricity, but some people familiar with the team's thinking are skeptical of the Jets' interest in Leinart.

Bradway, under the gag order by his new bosses, declined to comment on Leinart's workout. For what it's worth, the buzz at the workout had the Jets picking Virginia tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson or North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams. Obviously, there's some interest in Leinart. Why else would they travel cross-country in two weeks to meet with him?

According to coaches and GMs, Leinart solidified his spot yesterday as one of the top prospects. One of 19 USC prospects at the Pro Day, a carnival-like setting with 2,000 fans screaming as players performed various drills at the track-and-field stadium, he gave the faithful one last thrill at USC.

In the passing portion of the workout - throwing to a receiver with no defenders - Leinart completed 35 of 46. There were three drops and two other incompletions caused by miscommunications with the receivers. Leinart had a patchwork receiving corps that included former Jet Curtis Conway, an ex-Trojan.

"He didn't do anything today that surprised me, because I think he's one of the top picks in the draft," Texans GM Charlie Casserly said. "He can make all the throws, no problem at all. Don't worry, he can throw it into the left corner at the Meadowlands, where the wind is."

In his workout, Leinart had four completions of 31 yards or longer. He showed nice accuracy on sideline routes in the 20-to-30-yard range. On the downside, some of his long balls floated and he threw a fraction too late on some of his short and intermediate passes.

"Arm strength isn't a problem; he had one 65 yards in the air to Reggie Bush," said Titans coach Jeff Fisher, who could take Leinart with the third selection. "What got him to this point was accuracy and anticipation." Leinart has a private workout with the Titans today.

Leinart, 6-5, 224 pounds, proved that his athleticism is underrated. He recorded a 37-inch vertical jump, impressive for a quarterback. He also showed good movement skills in the pocket, throwing on the run. "I feel good about (the workout)," Leinart said. "I feel like I answered any questions they might have. I showed them my arm strength and that I'm more athletic than they've seen on film."
 
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The last thing I need is for Leinart to end up in NY and have to read about him in the gossip column every week. Will he wear a fur coat like Namath and do pantyhoes commericals?

Jets would be better served to go after Ferguson, and see what they have in Ramsey.
 

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This guy wants to be a movie star instead of a football player. I imagine if he had gone to school someplace else, maybe it would be different. I'm sure if it were any one of us we'd be caught up in ourselves if we had the attention Leinart did as a collegiate athlete.

Still, you have to wonder that the Jets and Saints both making QB moves this free agent season signal that they want to go in other directions come draft time?
 
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Lazy LenDale turning into Clarett
RB doesn't look like 1st-round pick with extra weight, no work ethic


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By Jason Cole
NBCSports.com contributor
Updated: 8:50 p.m. ET April 3, 2006


Jason Cole



As the 2005 college football season was winding down, there were some outside observers of the USC team who believed a good case could be made that LenDale White was actually a better NFL prospect than teammate Reggie Bush, Heisman Trophy aside.

On Sunday, any such argument disappeared as Bush put on a fine performance during the school’s annual pro day for NFL scouts. The only thing fine that White did was dining with the Denver Broncos on Saturday night.

White weighed in at 244 pounds, up six pounds from the doughy 238 pounds he displayed at the NFL scouting combine in February. White also did his best not to display much by wearing a loose-fitting warm-up suit for the entire workout. This was after White drew audible groans from NFL scouts when he bared his chest at the combine.

As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”

On Sunday, White benched 225 pounds all of 15 times. That’s one more than USC punter Tom Malone and nine less than Bush, who White happens to outweigh by 42 pounds. After doing the bench, White called it a day. He didn’t run the 40-yard dash or do any of the other myriad of drills that so many scouts and coaches were looking forward to.

Perhaps this is why so many people are now thinking of White in company with Maurice Clarett than with Bush.

“We had one of our scouts go up and ask him what was going on (after White didn’t run),” another executive said. “The kid said his hamstring was tight or something like that. Then we tried to find out when he was going to run and he didn’t know. It didn’t even sound like he was going to run. What does this kid think?”

This, of course, is why you never heard the argument for White over Bush coming out of USC (unless it was White’s mom or dad saying it). Bush put on his show for the scouts on Sunday, running anywhere between a 4.33 to a 4.40 in the 40-yard. Bush did the aforementioned 24 reps and everything else was in order.

Three scouts and coaches who saw him said Bush didn’t do anything to hurt himself, and the notion that he might fall from the top spot in the draft seemed far-fetched. While it’s possible that Houston will trade out of the No. 1 spot, the thought is that it’s only because they will get a great offer. Not because Bush didn’t impress them.

But the point in all of this is that Bush took care of his business when he could have been the one living off his body of work the past two years. White did not. In fact, he showed to NFL people what so many people at USC have seen since he got there.

Lots of ability. Little work ethic.

“The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”
 

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I love it. Crapping his future away. I know he's leaving early, but I guarantee he has ZERO intentions of finishing school either way.

He'll be a bum in three years.
 
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I love it. Crapping his future away. I know he's leaving early, but I guarantee he has ZERO intentions of finishing school either way.
He'll be a bum in three years.
His first round bonus will probably keep him off the street a bit longer.
 

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Speaking of USC running backs, here's a story that might be of interest.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2399979

Yes, let's see them win with nothing.

How can you be academically ineligible for two years like Chauncey Washington? Unbelievable. Will they petition for a sixth year for him too?

By the time Notre Dame goes out to Los Angeles, this team could have a few losses by they'll be firing on all cylinders. And their defense is going to be very good.

Still, the breaks have finally started going against them for a change.
 
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