2007 Recruiting Grocery List

[jiggafini19]

Removed.

 

[jiggafini19]

Anyone know what will be available? 20 spots?

 

[bigdon]

Removed.

 

[Irish1225]

Jiggs, I think we can at minimum 18 and at most mayne 21. Therefore, Weis will have to be more selective this year compared to this past season. Just speculation, but I see us signing many more 4 and 5 star guys than 3 stars.

 

[jkmoline]

we have a full 25 available, and maybe 26 if we end up leaving the extra scholie from this year open, there will be a few ee's but more than likely they will fill against the 25, such as Clausen

 

[KMac151993]

Please would someone remind me why we need Clausen?

 

[Champion10]

ND doesnt need any one player but it would be nice to see the #1 player in the country attend ND.

 

[Irish Envy]

Please would someone remind me why we need Clausen?

Because he is coming packaged with the #1 WR recruit and a Top 5 RB recruit?

 

[Champion10]

not to mention he would recruit many toerh top players for us.

 

[IrishFan16]

I dont think everyone relizes just how important Clausen is...He has so much hype(had ESPN specials about him), everybody knows him...including all the recruits. Great players want to play with Great players(case in point A. Benn, he said that him and clausen were talking about the possibility of playing with each other.) Jimmy will have a huge ripple effect for the 2007 recruiting class, that is why I am glad that ND is not getting Mustain, because hes one player...getting Clausen is an almost gaurentee of getting a class full of studs.

 

[jkmoline]

just a feeling here, but I would bet my house that Claussen will be the first 2007 verb, and i would bet the announcment of it comes very quickly after signing day, again nothing but speculation but I think he is on board, and I think we will be hearing about it as soon as signing day passes, and whether you think this kid is the best high school qb ever or you think he is an over hyped bag of wind, realize that recruits will follow, news coverage will hype up, and ND will be the talk of the football world if he jumps on first...2007's class will be the best ever at ND

 

[iloveirish_12]

Please would someone remind me why we need Clausen?

Because he is the Lebron James of football. Thats way and not to metion he has some very good players coming with him.

 

[jiggafini19]

Because he is the Lebron James of football. Thats way and not to metion he has some very good players coming with him.

Football is a team sport. LeBron James plays in the most selfish, horrible sport there is. This analogy sucks and whatever recruiting guru that said it first is a total idiot.

KMac, I'm not 100% sold on Clausen but I'm way more positive about him than I was a few weeks ago. He is very good, but his size for a pocket passing QB and possible ego still worry me. Aside from that, he is mechanically as good as there has been coming out of HS. Should he come to ND and work with Weis, I think the results would be scary good.

Say what you will, Tim Tebow committing to Florida had a direct domino effect on recruiting there. Yes, Urban had a good class before Tebow verballed. Once he did, the receivers (Harvin, McDaniel, Cooper) started to flow in with verbals of their own.

Jimmy C. can and will have this positive effect on Notre Dame. Just another selling point for Weis to use. And Marc Tyler will probably follow.

 

[scooper]

I'm in the same boat as jigg. Some things about Claussen worry me. Not his ego, so much as his father's. I don't think his physical ability is in question, but you need to be mentally tough and smart to run Charlie's offense. I'm not saying he's not. Any qb is a question mark coming in. But everybody who has seen him play says the kid can throw the ball. I don't care who your competition is or who your teammates are. A good throw is a good throw. A great WR or RB can't give the ball to themselves.

Were he a one man deal, I'd be just as happy to get any of the top QB's, but the recruiting effects could be huge. Tebow is a good example. Chris Leak was a pied piper leading talented players to Florida. Getting a kid like that would be huge. I suspect Jones and Aldridge had some effect on recruiting in the midwest this season. But Claussen may be the biggest fish yet.

Plus, so much of college football is wrapped up in hype, like it or not. It affects voters, recruits, donors and public opinion in general. Anything to create positive hype for the program is good. Along comes the most hyped recruit in years. What better way to say we are back?

I know some hyped kids bust. But some of them also live up to their potential and become great ones.

 

[bigdon]

just a feeling here, but I would bet my house that Claussen will be the first 2007 verb, and i would bet the announcment of it comes very quickly after signing day, again nothing but speculation but I think he is on board, and I think we will be hearing about it as soon as signing day passes, and whether you think this kid is the best high school qb ever or you think he is an over hyped bag of wind, realize that recruits will follow, news coverage will hype up, and ND will be the talk of the football world if he jumps on first...2007's class will be the best ever at ND

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I can find NO reason to believe He will commit early NOR to think he will commit to ND.

The quest for Clausen is just beginning and will go on for a long time--well into the recruiting cycle.

The 50 ( or 60 0r 70 ) schools that would love to have him are not going to roll over and play dead just because ND has offered. His brother on the staff at Tenn was a direct acknowledgement that want him bad.

We all agree that 2006 will be a great recruiting year for ND. But we will NOT get everyone we offer and there will be surprises and dissapointments just like 2005. Such is recruiting!






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[KMac151993]

Jigga I agree with you but my point is then why go out and sign two good QB's this year when 1 or 0 are needed if we get Claussen. This year we really needed help with the Defense and got some but some glaring holes are at LB still and especially DL. I would rather have seen us drop Frazier and picked up another DL if Claussen is a 'lock' to come play for us in 2007. By then Quinn will be gone and Jones will have redshirted. Because right now in 2007 we will have 3 QB's all in the same year of eligibility.

 

[scooper]

Claussen wasn't a lock when Frazer and Jones committed. In fact, he's not a lock now-though it looks good. The QB depth was not great on this team and Charlie wanted to bring two guys in. Claussen's a big recruit, but he isn't the lone savior of this program.

 

[Irish Envy]

Jigga I agree with you but my point is then why go out and sign two good QB's this year when 1 or 0 are needed if we get Claussen. This year we really needed help with the Defense and got some but some glaring holes are at LB still and especially DL. I would rather have seen us drop Frazier and picked up another DL if Claussen is a 'lock' to come play for us in 2007. By then Quinn will be gone and Jones will have redshirted. Because right now in 2007 we will have 3 QB's all in the same year of eligibility.

It's called seamless transitions. Look at USC for a good example.

 

[KMac151993]

I know but at the same time a log jam of talent means wasted space. I remember when Dorsey Levens transfered from ND and he turned out to be a pretty solid back but was stuck on a loaded team. I couldn't imagine being D. Jones or Frazier next fall as one of those guys is going to end up 5th string.

 

[Irish Envy]

I know but at the same time a log jam of talent means wasted space. I remember when Dorsey Levens transfered from ND and he turned out to be a pretty solid back but was stuck on a loaded team. I couldn't imagine being D. Jones or Frazier next fall as one of those guys is going to end up 5th string.

True, but I'd rather have that logjam then have someone get injured only to find out he is irreplacable.

Seems to have worked out for the nations elite... it's about time we have logjams in talent. That means practices are harder, more competitive which will lead to a better on the field product.

 

[bigdon]

True, but I'd rather have that logjam then have someone get injured only to find out he is irreplacable.

Seems to have worked out for the nations elite... it's about time we have logjams in talent. That means practices are harder, more competitive which will lead to a better on the field product.

All of this is true. Now all we have to do is convince the recruits that a logjam at their position is really good for them. If you believe that's easy I have a portfolio of bridges you might like to buy.

 

[Irish Envy]

All of this is true. Now all we have to do is convince the recruits that a logjam at their position is really good for them. If you believe that's easy I have a portfolio of bridges you might like to buy.

Winning programs have been doing it for decades. That's what winning will do. How do you think USC is still getting only "5 star" talent to come there when they already have 2-3 "5 star" guys in front of them on the depth chart?

Winning makes everything easy.

 

[scooper]

USC does it. And all indications are that the #1 QB is looking to join the logjam here. It's a good problem to have for a change, isn't it?

One of my biggest logjam concerns is getting the Oline classes spread out after this year's desparate Ty-induced hog-molly binge. We needed this group, but from now on, they have to be balanced out or we'll be looking at the same problem down the line.

 

[Irish Envy]

USC does it. And all indications are that the #1 QB is looking to join the logjam here. It's a good problem to have for a change, isn't it?

One of my biggest logjam concerns is getting the Oline classes spread out after this year's desparate Ty-induced hog-molly binge. We needed this group, but from now on, they have to be balanced out or we'll be looking at the same problem down the line.

A wonderful problem. It's like a guy complaining about being too rich, too smart, too well endowed.

2-3 per class per year from here on out should do it, no? Then the same thing on the defensive side of the line after next seasons class where we should bring in 4-6 defensive linemen.

After that, we can truly start picking and choosing like USC and Texas does. Hopefully, by then, we'll be beating them out for those guys after beating them on the field.

 

[scooper]

Yeah, I'd like to see 6 defensive linemen-three of each.

They need pass rushers big time and it sounds like some big time DE's are very interested.

 

[bigdon]

USC does it. And all indications are that the #1 QB is looking to join the logjam here. It's a good problem to have for a change, isn't it?
One of my biggest logjam concerns is getting the Oline classes spread out after this year's desparate Ty-induced hog-molly binge. We needed this group, but from now on, they have to be balanced out or we'll be looking at the same problem down the line.

Where are your sources that are saying that "all indications are that the #1QB is looking to join the logjam here"? Unless you can identify them that is mere speculation. If you're going to name recruiting services, forget it. They are merely speculating at this point. Just because he attended the Junior Day means nothing more than he might be interested. Let's have your "all indication" sources!!

 

[scooper]

Until any player signs a LOI, all anybody has is speculation. Even public verbals aren't concrete. This is a message board and I'm not the guy buying uniforms for the next recruiting class, so speculation is as good as you can expect.

But the speculation across the board is ND has as good a chance as any school-and may actually be in the driver's seat- for the so-called#1 recruit.

If you want something a little more concrete, how about quotes from other recruits about Claussen talking about all of them playing together somewhere. Well, these recruits all happened to be gathered in one place over the weekend-Notre Dame. Sure it means nothing, but it's grounds for more "speculation."

I don't understand where your problem is with that. You know damned well that ND has a chance with this kid. Nobody knows where he will go, but you know ND is seriously in the mix. How is this something to complain about?

 

[jiggafini19]

Charlie's first verbal was Munir Prince on April 2, 2005.

I don't see anyone verballing right after Signing Day or any sooner than April or May.

Being in the mix with the best and brightest is a good thing. But any discussion of Clausen's place on the 2007 depth chart is hypothetical. He could get hurt during his senior year of high school after he verbals.

 

[scooper]

Just to be clear. I'm thrilled at the prospect of possibly getting him, but I'm in no way penciling him in for 2007. Nobody is a given. He will have four QB's with more experience waiting for him if he comes here and the two guys this year are not exactly chopped liver.

I'm still safely on board the Jones bandwagon.

 

[calidomer]

Back-up quarterbacks get drafted too

Back-up quarterbacks get drafted too

Remember, SC's back-up quarterback last year was drafted in the fourth round. If someone can say they were coached by Charlie, a team in the NFL will put some considerations to this player. It doesn't seem to be hurting SC in the recruiting game even with the log jam. If you build it, they will come!