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i was reading on another nd site that mustain is headed to ND as an early enrollee. the site credits ND central with breaking the news. also the site said that frazer and jones are still 100 percent irish. can anyone confirm or deny this?
Here's the link to ND Central:
How legit is this though???
http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=ndcentral
How legit is this though???
http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=ndcentral
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ND central
ND central
yea, I was questioning the legitimacy of ND central myself. anyone know how credible they are?
ND central
yea, I was questioning the legitimacy of ND central myself. anyone know how credible they are?
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NDCentral, if I'm not mistaken, is the site started by the poser with multiple handles most notably "SuperIrish2005." The guy has no credibility whatsoever and has been run off of virtually every Irish board you could name. Do not buy into his crap.
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NDCentral, if I'm not mistaken, is the site started by the poser with multiple handles most notably "SuperIrish2005." The guy has no credibility whatsoever and has been run off of virtually every Irish board you could name. Do not buy into his crap.
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thanks for clarification!
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STAY AWAY FROM THERE!!!
This is Irishenvy's red headed step cousin reject down the street. Horrible.
This is Irishenvy's red headed step cousin reject down the street. Horrible.
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Yep. You got it.TN Domer said:
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If Weis can recruit 3 highly touted QB's in one class than I'd say he's the best recruiter of all time lol...I just don't see it happening, someone would either decommit or transfer down the road, we don't need that. Man this is one crazy rumor
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Mitch Mustain
Mitch Mustain
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/12/08/HarryKing/331699.html GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!
Mitch Mustain
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/12/08/HarryKing/331699.html GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!
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They are going to hire this kid's high school coach and Wittke is out of a job?
Fools.
No wonder they lost to USC 105-6 or whatever it was.
Fools.
No wonder they lost to USC 105-6 or whatever it was.
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"Any opinion on this"?
"Any opinion on this"?
MITCH MUSTAIN HEADED TO NOTRE DAME AS EARLY ENROLLEE
Notre Dame Central is reporting that Mitch Mustain is de-committing from Arkansas and is headed to South Bend as an early enrollee. This means Mustain will not count as a scholarship towards this class and will enroll at Notre Dame after the fall semester. This will allow Mustain to get a head start on the back up position to Quinn as he will practice with the team in the spring. Weis visited Mustain over the weekend for a final push. For clarifcation, Zach Frazer and Demetrius Jones are still headed to South Bend as both are still 100% committed to the Fighting Irish.
"Any opinion on this"?
MITCH MUSTAIN HEADED TO NOTRE DAME AS EARLY ENROLLEE
Notre Dame Central is reporting that Mitch Mustain is de-committing from Arkansas and is headed to South Bend as an early enrollee. This means Mustain will not count as a scholarship towards this class and will enroll at Notre Dame after the fall semester. This will allow Mustain to get a head start on the back up position to Quinn as he will practice with the team in the spring. Weis visited Mustain over the weekend for a final push. For clarifcation, Zach Frazer and Demetrius Jones are still headed to South Bend as both are still 100% committed to the Fighting Irish.
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Notre Dame drops offer to top QB
Dec 8, 2005, 02:43 PM CST
FAYETTEVILLE - Sources have told 5NEWS that Notre Dame's top quarterback commitment for the current recruiting class has been quietly dropped from the school's list.
The move could clear the way for an offer to be made to Springdale High quarterback Mitch Mustain.
Mustain is believed to have withdrawn a commitment to the University of Arkansas. Sources also have told 5News that Mustain has been impressed with the way Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weiss has turned the Fighting Irish's football program around in just one season.
Mustain apparently contacted Weiss about the possibility of making an official visit to the Notre Dame campus. He was told that such a visit was impossible as long as he remained committed to another school.
Mustain is in New York this week attending a banquet to announce the Parade High School Football Player of the Year. He has already been named the Gatorade National Player of the Year for high school football
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=4219140
Dec 8, 2005, 02:43 PM CST
FAYETTEVILLE - Sources have told 5NEWS that Notre Dame's top quarterback commitment for the current recruiting class has been quietly dropped from the school's list.
The move could clear the way for an offer to be made to Springdale High quarterback Mitch Mustain.
Mustain is believed to have withdrawn a commitment to the University of Arkansas. Sources also have told 5News that Mustain has been impressed with the way Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weiss has turned the Fighting Irish's football program around in just one season.
Mustain apparently contacted Weiss about the possibility of making an official visit to the Notre Dame campus. He was told that such a visit was impossible as long as he remained committed to another school.
Mustain is in New York this week attending a banquet to announce the Parade High School Football Player of the Year. He has already been named the Gatorade National Player of the Year for high school football
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=4219140
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Does anyone know which QB it is yet?
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IF that story is true, Weis better be prepared to defend himself and make sure every other recruit feel safe. He could lose a ton of integrity points if he simply dropped the scholarship.
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What about all the talk of the troubled QB? What would you do with Zach F.?
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i must say i was terrified for the last 24 hours about weis screwing up this whole situation...BUT THIS WAS GENIUS. there's no way we're going to be short of the #1 recruiting class. we'll be able to pull the carson palmer to matt leinart qb switch with these three as sophomores behind quinn.
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I'm not liking any of this at all.
Whatever happens, I hope the explanation is a good one.
Whatever happens, I hope the explanation is a good one.
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Notre Dame Central is complete crap.
Stay off of there. Best advice.
Stay off of there. Best advice.
agreed. i just posted in the other thread that there's no credible sources. although a tv station can be duped, it raises the level of credibility that something is indeed amiss.
i can't imagine weis dropping a current commit for no other reason than to pick up a better one.
i can't imagine weis dropping a current commit for no other reason than to pick up a better one.
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I would say this holds water.....
I would say this holds water.....
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=4219140
I would say this holds water.....
http://www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=4219140
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i'm with you bigirish
but just for fun, what if they got mustain to commit and enroll early....i think i would try out to be next year's leprechaun!
but just for fun, what if they got mustain to commit and enroll early....i think i would try out to be next year's leprechaun!
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Legit or another "best guess?
Mustain is supposed to be an early graduate/early admission and another early admit causes no problem with the 25 maximum. But his mother claims they've just sent his paper work to the NCAA Clearinghouse. He can enroll with Clearinghouse approval but can't play.
Now add that to the Arkansas board poster who's claims to have made a number of calls and made his "best guess". This all could come to pass but it right now seems to be speculation based upon speculation.
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« on: December 07, 2005, 12:10:21 AM »
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It's been a confusing day. I've talked to so many people I keep forgetting and calling the same people back and asking them the same thing twice.
I'm not certain about any of this but here's what I BELIEVE to be true.
1. HDN did not do anything stupid in the last few days to cause Mitch to decommit.
2. Mitch talked to Charlie Weiss some time back to ask to if he could get back in the mix at ND. Weiss said he already had two other QBs committed and told Mitch he was out of luck. Mitch continued to contact Weiss and was finally told he'd reconsider taking Mitch IF he would publicly decommit.
3. Tennessee and Texas are not factors.
4. ND probably will get Mitch.
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I am basing a lot of the above on my best guess of who to believe and who not to believe.
Mustain should make own choice
Thursday, Dec 8, 2005
By Harry King
LITTLE ROCK - If Springdale quarterback Mitch Mustain bails on the Razorbacks and signs with Notre Dame, Arkansas football fans won't understand unless they can separate heart and head.
The most storied program in college football appears to be back on track and being part of such lore, particularly under a coach with a penchant for developing quarterbacks, is a mighty magnet.
Speculation about Mustain has been hot and heavy since he withdrew his commitment to Arkansas earlier in the week. He said in August that he would be a Razorback, but that was before Charlie Weis restored Notre Dame to national prominence and made it clear that he was in South Bend for the long haul.
Only seven games into the season, Weis was given a new 10-year contract that will enable him to be head coach until he retires. That was weeks before the Fighting Irish sewed up a spot in a BCS game for the first time in five years.
Prior to being hired by Notre Dame, Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots for five years. That's the team that has won the Super Bowl three of the past four years. The work he did with sixth-round draft choice Tom Brady is the stuff of legends, and the progress of Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn is another testimonial.
As a sophomore, before Weis took over the program, Quinn completed 54 percent of his passes for 17 touchdowns. This season, with Weis at the helm, Quinn connected almost 65 percent of the time with a school record 32 TDS.
At 9-2, Notre Dame is in the Fiesta Bowl because it is Notre Dame. You only have to look at NBC and the BCS to understand the school's national reputation. The network recently extended its contract for exclusive rights to Notre Dame home games through 2010 and, beginning next year, the Fighting Irish are an automatic for a BCS game anytime they are ranked in the top eight.
Notre Dame even gets $1.3 million from the BCS when it does not participate in one of the big bowl games.
Mustain can't help but be aware of all this and that more success appears to be on the horizon for Notre Dame.
There are those who believe that Mustain will come full circle and be a Razorback when and if his high school coach, Gus Malzahn, joins Houston Nutt's staff. Some of those same folks cling to the hope that Malzahn will be able to convince wide receiver Damian Williams to stay home.
As good as Mustain is, Williams is probably the best player in the state and he's Florida-bound. Both Williams and tight end Ben Cleveland did the "Gator chomp" to celebrate a touchdown in the state high school championship game, and they were extremely chummy with the Florida assistant in attendance - stout signs they are happy they committed to the Gators.
As far as recruiting, you can't have it both ways. If Mustain goes to Notre Dame and you were one of those hoping Arkansas could steal Williams away from Florida, you are not allowed to berate Weis for staying after the Springdale quarterback.
In addition to those in the Malzahn-Mustain camp, there are those who say that Nutt must keep quarterbacks coach Roy Wittke to have any chance with Mustain.
Under pressure from athletic director Frank Broyles to hire an offensive coordinator, Nutt tried to sell his boss on Wittke. Apparently, the answer was "no."
Wittke wasn't around on the weekend when more than a dozen high school recruits were on campus and he wasn't in his office on Monday - indications he was out of a job. His son plays for Fayetteville High School and he was at the team banquet Monday night. There will be a spin to all of that if he was fired and hired in a matter of days.
More than a dozen more recruits are due to visit this weekend, so Nutt is on the spot to identify his staff and their assignments. Every prospect and his family wants to know the name of the young man's position coach.
Thursday, Dec 8, 2005
By Harry King
LITTLE ROCK - If Springdale quarterback Mitch Mustain bails on the Razorbacks and signs with Notre Dame, Arkansas football fans won't understand unless they can separate heart and head.
The most storied program in college football appears to be back on track and being part of such lore, particularly under a coach with a penchant for developing quarterbacks, is a mighty magnet.
Speculation about Mustain has been hot and heavy since he withdrew his commitment to Arkansas earlier in the week. He said in August that he would be a Razorback, but that was before Charlie Weis restored Notre Dame to national prominence and made it clear that he was in South Bend for the long haul.
Only seven games into the season, Weis was given a new 10-year contract that will enable him to be head coach until he retires. That was weeks before the Fighting Irish sewed up a spot in a BCS game for the first time in five years.
Prior to being hired by Notre Dame, Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots for five years. That's the team that has won the Super Bowl three of the past four years. The work he did with sixth-round draft choice Tom Brady is the stuff of legends, and the progress of Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn is another testimonial.
As a sophomore, before Weis took over the program, Quinn completed 54 percent of his passes for 17 touchdowns. This season, with Weis at the helm, Quinn connected almost 65 percent of the time with a school record 32 TDS.
At 9-2, Notre Dame is in the Fiesta Bowl because it is Notre Dame. You only have to look at NBC and the BCS to understand the school's national reputation. The network recently extended its contract for exclusive rights to Notre Dame home games through 2010 and, beginning next year, the Fighting Irish are an automatic for a BCS game anytime they are ranked in the top eight.
Notre Dame even gets $1.3 million from the BCS when it does not participate in one of the big bowl games.
Mustain can't help but be aware of all this and that more success appears to be on the horizon for Notre Dame.
There are those who believe that Mustain will come full circle and be a Razorback when and if his high school coach, Gus Malzahn, joins Houston Nutt's staff. Some of those same folks cling to the hope that Malzahn will be able to convince wide receiver Damian Williams to stay home.
As good as Mustain is, Williams is probably the best player in the state and he's Florida-bound. Both Williams and tight end Ben Cleveland did the "Gator chomp" to celebrate a touchdown in the state high school championship game, and they were extremely chummy with the Florida assistant in attendance - stout signs they are happy they committed to the Gators.
As far as recruiting, you can't have it both ways. If Mustain goes to Notre Dame and you were one of those hoping Arkansas could steal Williams away from Florida, you are not allowed to berate Weis for staying after the Springdale quarterback.
In addition to those in the Malzahn-Mustain camp, there are those who say that Nutt must keep quarterbacks coach Roy Wittke to have any chance with Mustain.
Under pressure from athletic director Frank Broyles to hire an offensive coordinator, Nutt tried to sell his boss on Wittke. Apparently, the answer was "no."
Wittke wasn't around on the weekend when more than a dozen high school recruits were on campus and he wasn't in his office on Monday - indications he was out of a job. His son plays for Fayetteville High School and he was at the team banquet Monday night. There will be a spin to all of that if he was fired and hired in a matter of days.
More than a dozen more recruits are due to visit this weekend, so Nutt is on the spot to identify his staff and their assignments. Every prospect and his family wants to know the name of the young man's position coach.