Final Coaches Poll Rankings

Irish Envy · Dec 5, 2005

Pay special attention to coaches in the SEC and Pac 10. Nope, no bias and attempted screwjob at all to get you bogus teams ranked higher. Asshats.

Barry Alvarez, Wisconsin
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #16

Chuck Amato, NC State
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #NR

Gary Barnett, Colorado
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #NR

Frank Beamer, VA Tech
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #11

Mike Belotti, Oregon
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #4

Phil Bennett, Southern Methodist
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #NR

Jack Bicknell, LA Tech
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #NR

Larry Blakeney, Troy State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Tommy Bowden, Clemson
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #20

Bobby Bowden, Florida State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #23

Jeff Bower, Southern Miss
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Gregg Brandon, Bowling Green
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Art Briles, Houston
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #NR

Rich Brooks, Kentucky
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #NR

Watson Brown, Alabama Birmingham
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Mack Brown, Texas
Notre Dame #7
Own Team #2

John Bunting, North Carolina
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Lloyd Carr, Michigan
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #20

Larry Coker, Miami
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #4

Sylverster Croom, Mississippi State
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #NR

Darryl Dickey, North Texas
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #NR

Bill Doba, Washington State
Notre Dame #12
Own Team #NR

Randy Edsall, UConn
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #NR

Dennis Franchione, Texas Tech
Notre Dame #3
Own Team #15

Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Joe Glenn, Wyoming
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Walt Harris, Stanford
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Ken Hatfield, Rice
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Dan Hawkins, Boise State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #25

Pat Hill, Fresno State
Notre Dame #7
Own Team #NR

Terry Hoeppner, Indiana
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Brady Hoke, Ball State
Notre Dame #7
Own Team #NR

Skip Holtz, East Carolina
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #NR

Brian Kelly, New Mexico
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Rocky Long, New Mexico State
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #NR

Sonny Lubick, Colorado State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Dan McCarney, Iowa State
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #25

Andy McCollum, Middle Tennessee State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Shane Montgomery, Miami (Ohio)
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

Joe Novak, Northern Illinois
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #NR

Houston Nutt, Arkansas
Notre Dame #7
Own Team #NR

Tom O'Brien, Boston College
Notre Dame #11
Own Team #18

Gary Patterson, Texas Christian
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #14

Bobby Petrino, Louisville
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #14

Mark Richt, Georgia
Notre Dame #8
Own Team #7

Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #9

Greg Schiano, Rutgers
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #25

Howard Schnellenberger, Florida Atlantic
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #NR

John L. Smith, Michigan State
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #NR

Frank Solich, Ohio
Notre Dame #4
Own Team #NR

Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
Notre Dame #14
Own Team #21

Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #21

Jeff Tedford, Cal
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #NR

Joe Tiller, Purdue
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #NR

Dick Tomey, San Jose State
Notre Dame #6
Own Team #NR

Jim Tressel, Ohio State
Notre Dame #5
Own Team #4

Tommy Tuberville, Auburn
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #4

Randy Walker, Northwestern
Notre Dame #7
Own Team #21

Bobby Wallace, Temple
Notre Dame #13
Own Team #NR

Charlie Weis, Notre Dame
Notre Dame #4

Tyrone Willingham, Washington
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #NR

Irish Envy · Dec 5, 2005

Svoboda said:
Gary Barnett, Colorado
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #NR

Mike Belotti, Oregon
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #4

Rich Brooks, Kentucky
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #NR

Larry Coker, Miami
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #4

Bill Doba, Washington State
Notre Dame #12
Own Team #NR

Rocky Long, New Mexico State
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #NR

Tom O'Brien, Boston College
Notre Dame #11
Own Team #18

Mark Richt, Georgia
Notre Dame #8
Own Team #7

Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
Notre Dame #14
Own Team #21

Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #21

Jeff Tedford, Cal
Notre Dame #10
Own Team #NR

Joe Tiller, Purdue
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #NR

Tommy Tuberville, Auburn
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #4

Bobby Wallace, Temple
Notre Dame #13
Own Team #NR

Tyrone Willingham, Washington
Notre Dame #9
Own Team #NR

These aren't suspect at all.

jiggafini19 · Dec 5, 2005

That motherf*%ker Tom O'Brien is in for a WORLD of pain when those bastards get back on the schedule. 11? 13? Man, that just really fires me up.

Temple should drop football.

Irish Envy · Dec 5, 2005

jiggafini19 said:
That motherf*%ker Tom O'Brien is in for a WORLD of pain when those bastards get back on the schedule. 13? Man, that just really fires me up.

Temple should drop football.

Yeah, Temple has absolutely no business voting on a poll or any kind... not even what is going to be served at lunch, fries or tater tots.

jiggafini19 · Dec 5, 2005

I can't wait for Boston College again.

Nothing less than an ass beating will do. PERIOD.

ND Lifer · Dec 5, 2005

Between Spurrier and O'Brien, I dion't know who's worse! Yes, I do--O'Brien, with Spurrier running a very close second.

domerfor life · Dec 5, 2005

those two are pretty comical. what's with the a$$wipe from Temple ranking us 13th. I mean did they win a game this year? No, correction.....did they even come within 28 points of winning a game? He should not be allowed to rank any teams. We'd smoke Temple by 60 if Charlie kept the floodgates open. He's got to be a former SEC assistant. He has 4 SEC teams in the Top 12 with Auburn, Georgia, and LSU ranked 5,6,and 7 respectively. Alabama is ranked 12th ahead of ND. How is Auburn ahead of LSU when LSU beat them just a couple of weeks ago? This is a joke. How can they take the coaches poll seriously when this is going on?

jiggafini19 · Dec 5, 2005

That @sshole Bobby Wallace resigned in the middle of the season.

Temple offered the job to Golden from Virginia, who Weis tried to get as a defensive coordinator before Minter.

ND Lifer · Dec 5, 2005

Just another reason for an 8 or 16 team playoff, don't you think???

domerfor life · Dec 5, 2005

ND Lifer said:
Just another reason for an 8 or 16 team playoff, don't you think???

Yes. This is a key component used in determining BCS bids and it clear that many of these coaches don't rank teams objectively. Many of them rank them according to their own biases. It's ridiculous. Let's not just concentrate on the coaches who clearly had an agenda, against ND and any team that's not theirs, but let's look at Dennis Franchione who had ND ranked 3rd ahead of Penn State. Now I'd be hard-pressed to believe that ND had a better year than PSU. He had OSU 9th and Miami 5th. I'm sorry but 5th placed teams don't blow games to Georgia Tech when a BCS bid is on the line. Those are really not that bad and by the way.....Thanks Dennis! We appreciate the love. However, this is what we use to determine who plays in the BCS games? This is a travesty.

Irish Envy · Dec 5, 2005

jiggafini19 said:
That @sshole Bobby Wallace resigned in the middle of the season.

Temple offered the job to Golden from Virginia, who Weis tried to get as a defensive coordinator before Minter.

Hell, Temple offered me the job two months ago, but I opted to coach my 9 year old's hoops squad because they'll be more competitive.

Stealingshrimp · Dec 5, 2005

I thought the most interesting was Willingham. #9

Irish Envy · Dec 5, 2005

Stealingshrimp said:
I thought the most interesting was Willingham. #9

Well Willingham just went along with the Pac 10 company line... would you figure him to do anything else besides blend in?

weisfaninmass · Dec 5, 2005

Just shows you that:

A. Spurrier is still hurting from the Sugar Bowl loss to Lou Holtz and Bettis.
B. That he and the coaching franternity in the SEC and PAC 10 are very worried about the momentum ND is getting.

Gizmo · Dec 5, 2005

We should probably tip our cap to Walt Harris. I'm sure he was pressured by the Pac 10 to rank ND low and Oregon high, but he turned in a relatively objective Top 25. So there's at least one coach out there who can regognize AND rank talent without a conference bias influencing his decision.

I wonder what Poodle Pete would have ranked us?

Stealingshrimp · Dec 5, 2005

most of our opponents' coaches ranked us high
for obvious reasons

guff · Dec 5, 2005

My $h*t list

My $h*t list

Tiller - Didn't he watch the beatdown ND gave his team in his own stadium.

Coker - Ranking his own team 4th takes real balls after losing Ga Tech. Maybe if your D Backs spent more time covering Calvin Johnson and less time rapping about gang rape you could have won. ND players leave school with a diploma, Miami players leave school with a Rap Sheet (if they didn't arrive with one already)

Spurrier - Jealous his NFL tenure wasn't as successful as CW.

O'Brien - To steal a thought from someone else's website - BC will always be Smithers ND will always be Mr. Burns.

And last but not least...
Willingham - F him forever! Drop Army from the schedule and add Washington in '06 and give his piss poor team another a$$kicking. Come on Ty you know ND is better than #9. It makes you look petty.

Having expelled all that venom I need to return to the Christmas mood and hand out some love - John L. Smith, Walt Harris, Phil Fulmer your on Santa's nice list.

As for Weis ranking ND #4 - He'll hear a little griping but what other choice did he have? How does he convince his team they are better than OSU if he has them ranked lower.

leppycole · Dec 5, 2005

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Dec_04_2005.pdf
Want to see the bias in the south, check out who supports the south and how they treated Notre Dame.

What the F@ck!! Charlie should go down there and take all of thier best athletes!!

Mike Grace is suspect!

jiggafini19 · Dec 6, 2005

leppycole said:
Want to see the bias in the south, check out who supports the south and how they treated Notre Dame.
What the F@ck!! Charlie should go down there and take all of thier best athletes!!
Mike Grace is suspect!

Don't worry, Leppy.

It's already happening.

SELECTing, not recruiting.

Rip Rap · Dec 6, 2005

Spurrier ranked ND 14 and left BC unranked. Draw whatever conclusions you will.

USA Today has the interactive applet, if you haven't seen it:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics/coaches_fb_poll_2005/flash.htm

It was good to see PSU is a consensus #3.

domerfor life · Dec 6, 2005

leppycole said:
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Dec_04_2005.pdf
Want to see the bias in the south, check out who supports the south and how they treated Notre Dame.
What the F@ck!! Charlie should go down there and take all of thier best athletes!!
Mike Grace is suspect!

I just think it's interesting that Notre Dame is anywhere from 3rd to 14th. That's such a broad range.

weisfaninmass · Dec 6, 2005

leppycole said:
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/newsletters/bcsnews/BCS_Dec_04_2005.pdf
Want to see the bias in the south, check out who supports the south and how they treated Notre Dame.
What the F@ck!! Charlie should go down there and take all of thier best athletes!!
Mike Grace is suspect!

Interesting - the Rocket has Oregon as #11.

Vince Young · Dec 7, 2005

domerfor life said:
I just think it's interesting that Notre Dame is anywhere from 3rd to 14th. That's such a broad range.

That's why we need to f'ing beat Michigan State next time. You lose a game like that, you practically gift-wrap an excuse for the ND-haters to vote us down.

Irish Envy · Dec 7, 2005

weisfaninmass said:
Interesting - the Rocket has Oregon as #11.

Yes, but I'd also take every single team he ranked ahead of them in a head-to-head matchup, too.

irish4life99 · Dec 7, 2005

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Obrien and Spurrier olympic judges for East Germany back in the 70's?

jiggafini19 · Dec 7, 2005

They were refs during that USA-USSR basketball game when we got absolutely hosed. Worst screw job in sports history.

Domer95 · Dec 7, 2005

irish4life99 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Obrien and Spurrier olympic judges for East Germany back in the 70's?

And in Ice Dancing in the last Winter Olympics, where the Canadians got screwed as well...

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