The Richduck Hall Of Fame

[Steve Duck]

I think he's been banned

I think he's been banned

I also think he's just upset that Notre Dame gets preferential treatment for being Notre Dame. No other school gets the clauses that Notre Dame does in the BCS. All Notre Dame has to do from now on is schedule 9 weak opponents because it's an independent school and it gets in the BCS. There should be a 1-8 selection process. Beating teams you're suppose to beat is commendable. However, a loss is a loss, doesn't matter if it's close. Also, Michigan State isn't that good so let's not go into that garbage. If Oregon gets shafted by the BCS it won't be the first time that it has happened. But I do find it amusing you create a thread on this guy. He must have touched a nerve.

 

[Steve Duck]

I dunno, I could almost grant him that there's some merit in leading the #1 team in the country 13-zip, even just at halftime.
But Oregon beats a 6-5 team and that's a quality win? And magically it's NOT a quality win when Notre Dame beats a 6-5 team? I was amazed that so few people picked up on that when Richduck laid that egg, so I just had to immortalize it here. I mean, after making that argument, how can you expect to be taken seriously?
Every time he posts from now on, I'm gonna toss that back in his face. Absolutely laughable!

Just wondering if you guys think that Michigan was a quality win at 7-4?Besides beating Michigan what other quality wins did Notre Dame have? How about quality losses?

 

[Irish Envy]

I also think he's just upset that Notre Dame gets preferential treatment for being Notre Dame. No other school gets the clauses that Notre Dame does in the BCS. All Notre Dame has to do from now on is schedule 9 weak opponents because it's an independent school and it gets in the BCS. There should be a 1-8 selection process. Beating teams you're suppose to beat is commendable. However, a loss is a loss, doesn't matter if it's close. Also, Michigan State isn't that good so let's not go into that garbage. If Oregon gets shafted by the BCS it won't be the first time that it has happened. But I do find it amusing you create a thread on this guy. He must have touched a nerve.

C'mon man... be real. It is obvious you don't follow Notre Dame at all because Notre Dame would never schedule 9 weak opponents. To even bring up such nonsense is comical and a waste of time for everyone involved.

The fact of the matter is, the BCS is setup the way it's setup and your conference president, along with every other conference president, signed off on it. Unfortunately, it's the only system we've got.

 

[Irish Envy]

Just wondering if you guys think that Michigan was a quality win at 7-4?Besides beating Michigan what other quality wins did Notre Dame have? How about quality losses?

Of course Michigan was a quality win. Penn State's only loss was at the hands of Michigan. Michigan also plays a top tier schedule and they are a team loaded with talent at every position.

Do you not feel it was a quality win? If no, why?

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

I also think he's just upset that Notre Dame gets preferential treatment for being Notre Dame. No other school gets the clauses that Notre Dame does in the BCS. All Notre Dame has to do from now on is schedule 9 weak opponents because it's an independent school and it gets in the BCS. There should be a 1-8 selection process. Beating teams you're suppose to beat is commendable. However, a loss is a loss, doesn't matter if it's close. Also, Michigan State isn't that good so let's not go into that garbage. If Oregon gets shafted by the BCS it won't be the first time that it has happened. But I do find it amusing you create a thread on this guy. He must have touched a nerve.

hmm...a tactful one in the bunch.
no he didn't touch a nerve.He's a dumbass and that's why we started a thread.
please go back several days and read all threads before you make comments like that.
then after reading all the threads...if you choose to still think he struck a nerve...then that is your opinion.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

Just wondering if you guys think that Michigan was a quality win at 7-4?Besides beating Michigan what other quality wins did Notre Dame have? How about quality losses?

it looks like your quality win with fresno state might be going down the tubes.

la tech 26
fresno 3
halftime

are we going to have to start a thread for you too.If memory serves me correct and fresno does lose,then who has oregon beat in the top 25 when the polls come out sunday?at least michigan is in the top 25...mr.45-13 a.k.a. steve duck

 

[Steve Duck]

True

True

But put yourself in an Oregon fans shoes. Lets say your team goes 10-1 with it's one loss being a halftime collapse against the number one team in the country. Wouldn't you be a little peeved if Notre Dame was slighted from the BCS by a team that lost twice with one of those losses at home against a team that finished 5-6 just because this team was once good 20 years ago?

 

[Steve Duck]

Sure Does

Sure Does

Makes you wonder how good USC really is? If they can get beat up by Fresno State. I don't think I ever said that Fresno State was a quality win though. Please show me where I said that. Michigan is a quality win. Cal is a quality win. We had Montana, you had Syracuse. The difference here is 10-1 and 9-2. Michigan State being the lone blemish on that record.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

But put yourself in an Oregon fans shoes. Lets say your team goes 10-1 with it's one loss being a halftime collapse against the number one team in the country. Wouldn't you be a little peeved if Notre Dame was slighted from the BCS by a team that lost twice with one of those losses at home against a team that finished 5-6 just because this team was once good 20 years ago?

well,I don't think i would be going to oregon boards harassing them and crying about it.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

Makes you wonder how good USC really is? If they can get beat up by Fresno State. I don't think I ever said that Fresno State was a quality win though. Please show me where I said that. Michigan is a quality win. Cal is a quality win. We had Montana, you had Syracuse. The difference here is 10-1 and 9-2. Michigan State being the lone blemish on that record.

okay,I put words in your mouth...so who does oregon have quality wins against?

 

[Steve Duck]

Touchy Tennessee

Touchy Tennessee

it looks like your quality win with fresno state might be going down the tubes.

la tech 26
fresno 3
halftime

are we going to have to start a thread for you too.If memory serves me correct and fresno does lose,then who has oregon beat in the top 25 when the polls come out sunday?at least michigan is in the top 25...mr.45-13 a.k.a. steve duck

If memory serves me correct I'm pretty sure Oregon didn't lose to Michigan State and I'm also pretty sure that Michigan State isn't in the top 25.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

If memory serves me correct I'm pretty sure Oregon didn't lose to Michigan State and I'm also pretty sure that Michigan State isn't in the top 25.

hey,notre dame lost against michigan state.Is that any reason to not go to a bcs bowl?
notre dame has two loses and are in the top 12 of the bcs.that is all it takes to qualify.If you want to start arguments,it might be time to find someone who will listen to you guys a little more rationaly with your b.s.
May I suggest john junkers email address for a start.

 

[Steve Duck]

Not saying they shouldn't

Not saying they shouldn't

However, there's only room for 8 teams in the BCS. If Notre Dame was 12th in the final BCS standings they still qualify and will be chosen over five other teams based on ratings and history rather then "merit."

 

[Steve Duck]

I don't need his address

I don't need his address

I don't see the Fiesta passing on Penn State considering they've historically had better ratings then Notre Dame in the Fiesta. Paterno is just as big a story as Notre Dame is.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

However, there's only room for 8 teams in the BCS. If Notre Dame was 12th in the final BCS standings they still qualify and will be chosen over five other teams based on ratings and history rather then "merit."

I'm not so sure if notre dame had been ranked 12th this year they would have gotten the same treatment(as you might call all it)I'd rather look upon it as notre dame is ranked#8 in the bcs polls.There are 8 slots,maybe you could look at some of the other teams that aren't ranked in the top 8 this year and wonder why they are going to a bcs bowl.
we already know what kind of answers you can come up with...lord knows everyone(duck fans) has tried and tried.
look,I don't want to appear as being rude.can I make a suggestion?become a notre dame fan.Otherwise,what are you really doing here?
I've got better things to do then sit around here and squabble with another quack.
goodnight

 

[Irish Envy]

If memory serves me correct I'm pretty sure Oregon didn't lose to Michigan State and I'm also pretty sure that Michigan State isn't in the top 25.

No, but La Tech waxed Fresno State tonight, 40-28. What an awefully bad time for your quality win to lose against an average school. Call it a hunch, but when the final BCS rankings are released on Sunday, I think your ranking may slip in some of the computer polls.

 

[Vince Young]

Just wondering if you guys think that Michigan was a quality win at 7-4?

Yes, Michigan was a quality win. They're ranked. If a victory over a ranked team isn't a "quality win," then I'd say your standards are ridiculously high.

I would also point out that Michigan is ranked higher than both unranked Cal and #23 Fresno State (who is about to be unranked thanks to tonight's loss). Ergo, if Michigan is not a quality win, then neither are Cal or Fresno State. Ergo, Notre Dame has no quality wins, but neither does Oregon.

C'mon, man, I know you have a brain. Try turning it on.

Admittedly, ND's schedule turned out to be rather weak this year. But let's look at who we chose to schedule: Pittsburgh. Michigan. Michigan State. Purdue. USC. Tennessee. All schools that are consistently good. And all schools that we CHOSE to play. At the beginning of the season, looking at those 6 teams, would you have honestly predicted that 4 of those 6 would wind up with losing records? And if you answer yes, I'm gonna check your back pocket for that future edition of Gray's Sports Almanac that you stole from Biff Tanner.

In contrast... Oregon's schedule is mostly controlled by the Pac-10, which is consistently a weak conference, but that's something you guys really can't control. What you CAN control are the 3 non-conference games. And who did you schedule? Fresno State... okay, some respect here for that. But Houston? C'mon. And MONTANA? Division I-AA, my friend.

We chose Michigan, USC and Tennessee. You chose Fresno State, Houston and I-AA Montana. Don't cry to me about strength of schedule or lack of "quality wins." Oregon isn't exactly flush with quality wins this year either. There's Fresno State (barely ranked), there's Cal (unranked), and there's... um... well, if you listen to Richduck, he'd count Arizona State. You already know how I feel about that.

 

[Vince Young]

All Notre Dame has to do from now on is schedule 9 weak opponents because it's an independent school and it gets in the BCS.

Actually, if Oregon gets a BCS spot, it will be by the same method that Notre Dame gets one: with an at-large selection. To qualify for an at-large pick, you have to have 2 or fewer losses and a top-12 finish.

By the way, in 2002, Notre Dame finished the regular season with a 10-2 record and in the top-12, but didn't get selected for the BCS. So, ND is not a BCS lock by any means.

There should be a 1-8 selection process.

Then Notre Dame, Ohio State and Oregon would all be in, and Big Joke conference champ West Virginia would be out. Sounds fine to me.

 

[domerfor life]

I see that Steve Duck is the same soup warmed over. How refreshing.

 

[Aerosmith777]

Makes you wonder how good USC really is? If they can get beat up by Fresno State. I don't think I ever said that Fresno State was a quality win though. Please show me where I said that. Michigan is a quality win. Cal is a quality win. We had Montana, you had Syracuse. The difference here is 10-1 and 9-2. Michigan State being the lone blemish on that record.

You're right, I might be upset. But I wouldn't be upset at a 9-2 Oregon w/ a win @Michigan and a tough luck loss against the #1 team in the nation. The team I'd vent my anger at is West Virginia, who is not in the BCS top 8 (ND is, so if we had you're top 8 sytesm, ND would still be in) and doesn't deserve to be there. But since WVU is guarunteed a spot, people take shots at ND who isn't just b/c they hope if they complain enough, they'll steal a spot, nevermind that it would be from a deserving team.

 

[domerfor life]

You're right, I might be upset. But I wouldn't be upset at a 9-2 Oregon w/ a win @Michigan and a tough luck loss against the #1 team in the nation. The team I'd vent my anger at is West Virginia, who is not in the BCS top 8 (ND is, so if we had you're top 8 sytesm, ND would still be in) and doesn't deserve to be there. But since WVU is guarunteed a spot, people take shots at ND who isn't just b/c they hope if they complain enough, they'll steal a spot, nevermind that it would be from a deserving team.

Guys, I know you're passionate but I'm tired of reading threads like this everyday. How many times do we have to say "be mad at WVU" or whatever we've said countless times in the past couple of weeks. We've discussed this topic ad nausem and the BCS bids haven't been handed out yet. What do you think it will be like when the BCS bids get handed out? It will be the same crap we've had to endure for two weeks (longer on other, more public, boards).