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Anyone else see the "make up piece" that College Gameday just did on Jarvis Jones, and him dealing with his brother being shot to death(years ago)? WTF was ESPN thinking? They talked about how hard it was for a 15 year old to deal with his brother's death, then mentioned that his behavior spiraled almost out of control. They talked about him getting kicked out of the 8th grade, and then not being able to attend any of the other schools in the county because of his behavioral issues. My first thought was "WTF is a 15 year old doing in 8th grade?" So I looked........... sure enough, Jarvis Jones is a 23 year old junior at the University of Georgia. And people wonder why ND can't stock the cupboards like other schools? Kudos to Jones for dealing with a tragedy, and seemingly making something of himself, but this is just one of the reasons that ND has to do everything better, to compete.

I call it a "make up" piece, because I am sure that there are many people at ESPN that are apoplectic that Manti Teo's trials and tribulations have gotten so much press. So they probably went out looking for a story to "balance" the coverage that Teo is getting.
 
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NewBrunswickIrish said:
Maybe because it isn't all that recent? Maybe he didn't want it talked about and wasn't ready until now?
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Either way....... my point wasn't that ESPN is doing a makeup piece on Jarvis Jones. My point is that, when people say that he looks like a man amongst boys, on the field...... there is a good reason for that. HE IS! Whereas Manti is playing against guys that are at the same at least age of development that he is.
 
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I agree kmoose. These little stories they put on there are almost pathetic. Why not honor the kids in college football who do things the right way. And I am not saying just ND players, there are thousands of kids at schools all over the country that have done great things, other than being kicked out of every school in their county and almost spiraling their life out of control. This is showing kids who are nothing, hey you can go to school, play football, and not get an education, just go to an SEC school.
 
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gkautz10 said:
I agree kmoose. These little stories they put on there are almost pathetic. Why not honor the kids in college football who do things the right way. And I am not saying just ND players, there are thousands of kids at schools all over the country that have done great things, other than being kicked out of every school in their county and almost spiraling their life out of control. This is showing kids who are nothing, hey you can go to school, play football, and not get an education, just go to an SEC school.
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How did this kid not do things the right way? Not everyone is raised the same way or are given the same opportunities. Just because he may be be older (it is his fourth season which makes him only one year behind Golic, Cave, Goodman and maybe more. He sat one out because he transfered from SC) and had personal problems doesn't mean he is nothing. Who knows maybe this kid is getting his degree and is focused on school. I think a story like his where he had to overcome so much to get where he has is just as important as showing someone who may have had better opportunities and so is thriving in a different way. I think it is gross to hate on a kid because he goes to an SEC school and may have had problems when he was growing up. He has faced adversity in his life and they are showing how he was able to overcome it. How many people know how they would react to one of their family members being murdered.
 
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How did this kid not do things the right way? Not everyone is raised the same way or are given the same opportunities. Just because he maybe be older (it is his fourth season which makes him only one year behind Golic, Cave, Goodman and maybe more. He sat one out because he transfered from SC) and had personal problems doesn't mean he is nothing. Who knows maybe this kid is getting his degree and is focused on school. I think a story like his where he had to overcome so much to get where he has is just as important as showing someone who may have had better opportunities and so is thriving in a different way. I think it is gross to hate on a kid because he goes to an SEC school and may have had problems when he was growing up. He has faced adversity in his life and they are showing how he was able to overcome it. How many people know how they would react to one of their family members being murdered.
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Agree to disagree. You must have better morals than some of us.
 
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I don't see any problem with that. Props to him for overcoming that tragedy and becoming the second best linebacker in college football
 
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During the game against Oregon Jones suffered a neck injury. He was later diagnosed with spinal stenosis and the USC medical staff would not clear him to play for the team again.[4]
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He had to redshirt the whole 2010 season when transferred from Southern Cal to Georgia. This kid...uh...man has overcome a lot of adversity to get where he's at today. I agree that a lot of times ESPN does "make up" stories but what Jones has gone through is tough.

The dude's led a hard life and now he's going to be a top 5 pick in the NFL draft and is playing for a chance to go to the NC...I just can't take anything away from him or downgrade him. I hate cheating SEC teams and obnoxious "SEC fans" but I can't take anything away from this dude.
 
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The fact that people are trying to downplay or marginalize what this young man has accomplished because they somehow perceive what has been previously reported as a "makeup story" is pretty damn pathetic.

As for the 23 year old thing, some kids have different paths. Hardly makes him somehow a lesser person/player.
 
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Chris Weinke thinks he could be his son.
 
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I don't want this to sound too insensitive, but how has he 'overcome'? Does 'overcome' simply mean, not dieing or going to prison?

By the sounds of it, he dropped out of middle school. Went to a ****** college, then transfered for whatever reason. What has he done besides be really good at tackling people?

If people mention how Manti's overcome in the same breath as how this guy's overcome, I'll puke.
 
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LOL what's the problem with this? Seemed like a good story. He was a consensus All-American who came back instead of going to the NFL (automatically gain some respect for him there). He just turned 23 and is a RS JR, which means he repeated one grade at some point in his life. Clausen turned 20 his frosh year at ND, so anyone can repeat a grade for one reason or another. His older brother got murdered when he was 15. Kudos to him for making something out of his life. Not many people would in that scenario.
 
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gkautz10 said:
I agree kmoose. These little stories they put on there are almost pathetic. Why not honor the kids in college football who do things the right way. And I am not saying just ND players, there are thousands of kids at schools all over the country that have done great things, other than being kicked out of every school in their county and almost spiraling their life out of control. This is showing kids who are nothing, hey you can go to school, play football, and not get an education, just go to an SEC school.
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Not cool, man. Not cool. If you knew Jarvis Jones personally, you would probably hesitate to judge. You can promote those untold stories without demeaning JJ's. Fact of the matter is that he is a heck of a football player about to play in a heated matchup. Is it really that surprising that ESPN would spotlight his personal journey? And I am not an ESPN apologist.
 
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