Bob Davie Wins Bowl Game!

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Georgia Tech on probation for using ineligible athletesAssociated Press


ATLANTA -- The NCAA placed Georgia Tech on two years of probation Thursday for using 17 academically ineligible athletes in four sports, including 11 in football.

It is the first time Georgia Tech has been placed on probation. The school had proposed self-imposed sanctions, including one year on probation.

Georgia Tech, which argued the violations were not intentional, is considering an appeal of the penalties.

"We are disappointed by the ruling of the NCAA Committee on Infractions," said Georgia Tech athletic director Dave Braine. "Yes, mistakes were made, but they were inadvertent and confined to a small number of cases when you consider that we reviewed more than 800 transcripts."

The NCAA's Committee on Infractions accepted the school's proposed scholarship reductions in football and men's and women's track. A violation also was found in the women's swimming program, but the swimmer involved was not on scholarship, so that program was not penalized with a scholarship reduction.

There were no TV or bowl restrictions placed on the football program.

Georgia Tech already reduced its 2005 football signing class by six and also will reduce its 2006 signing class by six.

The NCAA added a limit of 79 total grants-in-aid for the 2006-07 and 2007-08 academic years in football, down from the normal limit of 85. Georgia Tech's self-imposed reduction of scholarships this year did not include a corresponding overall limit on scholarships.

There are 83 scholarship players on this year's football team.

Also, the NCAA vacated Tech's records in the sports between the 1998-99 and 2004-05 academic years and issued a public reprimand and censure.

Gene Marsh, a law professor at Alabama who chaired the investigating committee, said Tech's registrars and academic advisers were inadequately trained in NCAA regulations.

Marsh said the committee concluded the "institutional failure" to train the employees on NCAA rules "constitutes a non-debatable lack of institutional control."

Marsh said the committee was influenced by the fact some of the 11 football players, who were not named, were stars.

"Many of these student-athletes were prominent members of the team, including multiple-year starters who had received conference and national recognition for their athletic performances," Marsh said.

"It is impossible to say what part it played, but it did play a part," Marsh said.

Marsh said the committee found six student-athletes were allowed to count grades of D for satisfactory progress even though their majors required grades of C or better. Four were allowed to continue in athletics despite lacking the necessary percentage of degree requirements.

Braine said "it can't hurt" to appeal the penalties.

"We have this weekend to sleep on it," Braine said of the decision to appeal. "We'll make a decision early next week."

Added Braine: "Anytime you have to vacate records, that's something you really have to look at closely. ... The 79 [scholarship limits] hurt also."

The school has since hired a new official in the registrar's office whose main duty is to ensure that athletes meet the proper academic requirements.

"I do disagree vehemently when they say our academic people were not educated to the rules," Braine said.

Marsh said Tech "is a great school" which has made proper adjustments to avoid future violations.

"They have reason to be proud of their academic programs and they are on the right course," Marsh said. "I have faith in the plan they've put on the table."

The NCAA accepted Tech's self-imposed reductions of 3.90 scholarships in men's track and field and two scholarships in women's track and field for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 academic years.

Tech also paid a $5,000 fine to the NCAA for allowing ineligible student-athletes to compete in NCAA championships and bowl games.
 

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So how does Bob Davie win a Bowl Game?

the NCAA vacated Tech's records in the sports between the 1998-99 and 2004-05 academic years

The ND v GT Gator Bowl Game falls into this time frame. A forfeit for ineligible players would turn give Davie a 10-2 record for the '98 season and bring his overall record to 36-24 or .600.

More significantly it eliminates one loss and replaces it with one victory on ND's All-Time Record. If my calculations are corrected that NCAA decision and an ND win over Syracuse and a UM loss to OSU tomorrow puts ND back in 1st Place as the Winningest Percentage Team.
 

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What the hell? I don't like the fact that we get a cheap forfeit win. I say our string of not winning a bowl game in 10 years still stands and that we have to win one this year to erase that on the field. How weird is this?
 
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Question -- was this during the George O'Leary era???
 

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I don't think Tech's records/game are actually "forfeited." Our boy Davie actually said last night (while covering the GaTech game) that the records were "vacated" not "forfeited." I haven't really figured out the distinction but I do not think ND can claim the "victory."

I thought more interesting regarding the GaTech football team was a judge forcing GaTech to take a kid back on the team even though he was arrested for drug trafficking charges:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9047160

The kid actually played last night. Davie questioned the move to play him on a number of grounds.
 

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A very nice consolation to an ass kicking, post Holtz.

First SC, now Georgia Tech. The moral wins keep piling up this year.
 

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The NCAA has vacated Championships as a penalty for NCAA infractions. UF was stripped of SEC titles in '84 and '85 but their record stood.

But GT used ineligible players. After the '93 season an NCAA investigation determined Alabama had used one ineligible player (he signed with an agent) and was required to forfeit all games he played in. The only win Alabama was allowed to keep was the one game that player sat out while the university "looked into" the situation. Bama claimed there was no eligibility issue and played him the rest of the season including a Gator Bowl game. Check Stassen's site

Was 9-3-1 in 1993, but had to forfeit all regular season games (8 wins and a tie) 1993 1-12
 

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I love how all of this stuff comes out after half a decade or more. Forfeiting games matters nothing to the kids that played them at the time. That's media guide crap.

Kind of like the great Michigan Flop Five basketball teams that caused Tommy Amaker, not Steve Fisher's program, to have to deal with a bunch of crap that happened when he was barely out of Duke as a player, let alone a coach.

Way to sleuth NCAA.
 
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