Even More Thoughts On CW

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Before the Pitt game started I had the sense of anticipation that you got when you were 17 and knew you were going to get some action from your new girlfriend for the first time. You knew you’d like it, you just weren’t sure just how much.

WOW! THAT FELT GOOD! LET’S DO THAT AGAIN!

When was the last time ND laid a beatin’ on quality opponent? I can’t recall. Yeah, there were big wins over the last couple of seasons but they always seemed the result of a fluke turnover, big special teams play, or some other form of ‘luck’. What I watched on Saturday was a game planned ass whipping. Pitt was outplayed, out-coached and overmatched.
Same talent as last year, way different result. And there was enough that went to wrong to keep the team grounded and not too full of themselves.

Let me say this again so that everyone knows where I stand, Charlie Weis is the best coach in college football. Without exception. Urban, SoCal Pete, the Ol’ Ball Coach there in South Carolina, both Stoops are all a step behind this guy.

I know it’s only been one game. But what’s separates Weis from the others is his ability to game plan. He sees thing on tape and the field that others just don’t see. We will see this as the season progresses. And the play calling. If you knew what was coming next your smarter than me and Wanny. I ‘called’ one play. It was the last TD scored the 3rd quarter. And I knew what was coming because I read his lips and knew the last word out of his mouth was “trap”. And thought “Trap? From here? They won’t score on a trap”. I doubt I’ll question him again. You can’t figure him out. If you can’t read his lips, forget about it, because you certainly can’t read his mind. CW understands that each play sets up the next. And no one does that better.

Most college coaches have, at best, three maybe four tough games on their schedule. How much does a big time D1 coach have to game plan for Directional Louisiana? Their game plans are, relatively speaking, simple. Develop a style of football, have more talent than the other guy and execute. When the big game comes, throw in a wrinkle or two. At this point the talent level between the big schools and little guys is great enough that, barring complete self destruction (Oklahoma for instance), the big guy wins. A good college coach recruits the best talent, ensures sound fundamental play and puts his talent in a position to best help the team. There is not as great a need to game plan as there is in the NFL where talent is nearly equal. Nick Saban will learn this hard way. Weis is a NFL quality coach working South Bend.

Which leads me to the whole “too tough of a schedule” debate. - Playing the Colts, Rams, Steelers, Chiefs, Bills, Jets, Ravens et al is a tough schedule. Weis is used to the mental grind of week after week facing an opponent that can beat you if your not at your best. Weis will have a plan for UofM. There is enough tape of Lloyd Carr teams to ensure that.

My 11-1 prediction was admittedly optimistic but not out of the question. Weis will not only have this team ready for every game, but by the end of the season this team will be scoring points at an unprecedented pace.
 

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While I loved how Weis and Company dismantled Pitt, I think our game this weekend will set the tone for the rest of the season. If we get a win at the Big House, I definitely think the sky is the limit for this squad.
 

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I agree w/ most of what you said except the part about Saban, I think he's gonna make it in the NFL. He's in one of the best jobs in the pro's in Miami, and like Weis, he's straight off the Parcells coaching tree.

I don't know about 11-1, but obviously I do think this club will be a lot better than anyone's giving them credit for. Where's that 0-6 record now Corso? Lol.
 
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Aerosmith777 said:
Where's that 0-6 record now Corso? Lol.

If you caught the followup after the ND game Corso changed his prediction to 1-5 Him and Herbstreit were going at it pretty good.

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I didnt understand all the negative media hype around Weis before the season about how he hadnt coached a game? he was "just" a coordinator. Thats BS. I dont know about the best in CFB but hes right up there, Espcially once he gets a few recruiting classes in here....watch out.
 
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Though I was pleased with how we did against Pitt, I'm trying really hard not to get too ahead of myself here. A win against Michigan in the Big House would be absolutely huge, but Michigan ain't Pitt.

Remember, Willingham was 1-0 after a pasting of Maryland in his first game, and lots of folks started jumping on the bandwagon. His situation was almost the reverse of Weis's. He had a strong defense that made up for an inexperienced offense, and the hope was that the defense would keep us in games while the offense "matured."

Now, I think the gameplan in Michigan will be to use our offense against their re-tooled defensive line to control the clock and keep Henne, Hart and Avant off the field and keep the wafer-thin defensive backfield's legs fresh.

In any event, I think we'll end up a better team by the end of the year, rather than the recent steady declines over the course of the season that we experienced with the past two coaches.
 

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Michigan will be a completely different animal. They are motivated now because they played poorly against NIU. They play up and down to the level of their opponents. Those kids typically play hard when they feel like it. Not a typical Big Ten program as far as I'm concerned.

ND manhandled Pitt in the trenches, which was also noted by Darrin Walls I might add, who was in attendance on the Pitt sidelines. If ND can do this against Michigan, they can win the game. I think the O-Line will do well, but the D-Line will have their work cut out for them.
 
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Is it just me, or are you way more optomistic about they way we played against Pitt than you were after Willingham's first game? Both Pitt and Maryland were comparably ranked, and on the scoreboard it appeared that Maryland was also a blowout win for the Irish. However, that game was A LOT closer than the score indicated. Also, if I remember correctly, Maryland's starting quarterback and middle linebacker were injured. THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS ON EACH UNIT. If Henderson plays in that game, I don't think even get most of the field goals.

On the other hand, ND absolutely dominated Pitt, who returned a veteran quaterback, middle linebacker, and two solid corners. If we can handle Michigan again this year, look out.
 
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Good points, kicker. I'm just saying one game doesn't a dynasty make.

jiggafini's right about UM playing to competition's level. ND's been like that the past few years, too.

If Carr tinkers with the D-line a lot, we could be in a very good position come Saturday.
 
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I expect Weis to go with ball control again. Run the clock with long dominating drives and keep the ball away from M offense. Look for Walker and RPN to have huge games! I think this will be the style of play for most of the year till CW gets more confidence in his defense.
 
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Carr will have his team fired up for this one. I read a bit of his press conference from I think it was Sunday or Monday and I got the impression that he was a bit awe struck by how we played against Pitt, almost scared.

To me this means that it can either be very hard fought the entire game and go either way, or if we score on our first couple of possessions and get a lead it could totally deflate their team and it could be similar to Pitt.

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Clipped from the Sept 6 presser:

Q. How much do you account for the fact that they may have been holding a little bit back (last week)?

COACH WEIS: Well, I watched every game they played last year, so unless there's some big surprise from all of the games including the Bowl game. I watched them all. I've gone back to watch previous years games on top of that, so my reference isn't just one game against Northern Illinois. But what that does is gives you the most up to date personnel assessment because that's who they played. But you have to go back and look at even schematically, going between 3 4 defense and a 4 3 defense and how they mix and match and what they are doing right there. I think that you have to be prepared for a lot of things.

I'm not expecting just to see what they did last week against Northern Illinois. They are not expecting for us just to do what we did against Pittsburgh. I think that we have to both be ready to adjust on the fly.

Only guy that knows more about Michigan is Lloyd Carr (maybe). A win at the Big House will put the rest of the teams on notice.
 
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