Goodbye Rutgers thanks for playing..

[Freeman Ara]

This doesn't really affect us as far as the NC game goes but Rutgers is getting the whoopin put on em early. Way to follow up that big win guys.

 

[marv81s]

Long way to go dude, they were down to Louisville too and came back. No lead is safe in college football, especially with thier D.

But, I'm still hoping they lose.

 

[Freeman Ara]

Long way to go dude, they were down to Louisville too and came back. No lead is safe in college football, especially with thier D.

But, I'm still hoping they lose.

Fair enough, big differences though Cincy can play D unlike UofL, and Rutgers is on the road...Go Bearcats.

 

[scooper]

Yep. The Bearcats D is tough. I'm a big fan of their DC Pat Narduzzi.

 

[marv81s]

Sorry to change the subject in this forum, but I just have to say that Cal can't take care of the rock tonight, another turnover and another stupid ass John Cougar commercial follows

 

[marv81s]

nice pick by cinci in the endzone

 

[scooper]

Mickens can ball. I love this defense.

 

[lattedatte]

and why hasn't this qb been in the whole year. that's all they needed this year was a qb.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

This doesn't really affect us as far as the NC game goes but Rutgers is getting the whoopin put on em early. Way to follow up that big win guys.

yes it affects the NC game,seem to forget rutgers was 2nd in the computer rankings?
Once that final poll comes out...that's it !!!

come on cinci...then the west virginia game won't matter much.

 

[scooper]

and why hasn't this qb been in the whole year. that's all they needed this year was a qb.

Grutza is a slightly better passer, but Davila's mobility has been a big difference tonight.

 

[lattedatte]

yes it affects the NC game,seem to forget rutgers was 2nd in the computer rankings?
Once that final poll comes out...that's it !!!

come on cinci...then the west virginia game won't matter much.

do you really think we have a chance? with that um/osu game being so close... i can't see anyway the pollsters but UM below us.

 

[scooper]

A GCL kid, (Celek from LaSalle) just made a Sportscenter play.

 

[marv81s]

that was a great TD run by that kid!

 

[scooper]

Man, it's feast or famine for Mickens.

 

[GREENJERSEYS'07]

do you really think we have a chance? with that um/osu game being so close... i can't see anyway the pollsters but UM below us.

probably not,but if everything panned out michigan could be one spot ahead of the irish and then the computers could be just enough to bump michigan out.
I don't want to see that happen because if ohio state's offense was told they could keep the 12 million amongst themselves to hang 70 on notre dame,they would find a way.
a cinci loss would possibly get us a game with them in the bcs.
I like that matchup or even against arkansas.
either of those games could produce a win.

 

[lattedatte]

probably not,but if everything panned out michigan could be one spot ahead of the irish and then the computers could be just enough to bump michigan out.
I don't want to see that happen because if ohio state's offense was told they could keep the 12 million amongst themselves to hang 70 on notre dame,they would find a way.
a cinci loss would possibly get us a game with them in the bcs.
I like that matchup or even against arkansas.
either of those games could produce a win.

good point.... I think if we go out to LA and play tough, even barely lose we'll be in a BCS bowl. I think we could beat anyone but I think our % are much better against an ark or louisville or someone like that. God we have to win a bowl game..

 

[Famboo28]

I agree with you Tennessee, tOSU's team scared me today, there is no way at all I would want to play them at the end of the year.

 

[scooper]

I agree with you Tennessee, tOSU's team scared me today, there is no way at all I would want to play them at the end of the year.

For a chance at the title I do.

If the Irish have a chance, I want it. That said, I could not argue with Michigan getting in over us.

 

[isotopes]

I couldnt argue with it, but at the same time I think the timing of the loses will have an effect. Just like WVU being ranked higher than Louisville, it has a great effect.

 

[lattedatte]

For a chance at the title I do.

If the Irish have a chance, I want it. That said, I could not argue with Michigan getting in over us.

Scoop anyone that says they don't should not consider themself a fan. "If you ain't first you're last." Ricky Bobby

 

[scooper]

I couldnt argue with it, but at the same time I think the timing of the loses will have an effect. Just like WVU being ranked higher than Louisville, it has a great effect.

You're right. Timing is everything in college football. I'm just saying I couldn't look a skunkbear fan in the eye and tell them they don't have a point.

I'd still take it, though.

 

[lattedatte]

I couldnt argue with it, but at the same time I think the timing of the loses will have an effect. Just like WVU being ranked higher than Louisville, it has a great effect.

Holy shit I just realized that, WVU, if they beat Rutgers will be ranked higher in the end then louisville. But louisville will win the BE. Does that mean we will have two teams from the BE in the BCS. That would be garbage and you know I'm a WVU fan. Absolute garbage.

 

[scooper]

Holy shit I just realized that, WVU, if they beat Rutgers will be ranked higher in the end then louisville. But louisville will win the BE. Does that mean we will have two teams from the BE in the BCS. That would be garbage and you know I'm a WVU fan. Absolute garbage.

Quite possible, yes.

 

[lattedatte]

Quite possible, yes.

do you know the rules scoop? What would WVU have to be rated in order to get an automatic bid?

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

do you know the rules scoop? What would WVU have to be rated in order to get an automatic bid?

Looks like #3...or possibly #4

Bowl Championship Series Selection Policies and Procedures, 2007-2010 Games:

Automatic Qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.

2. The champions of the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls after the 2006 and 2007 regular seasons.

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be in the pool of teams eligible for selection by the bowls as at-large teams.

4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.

5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

At-Large Teams

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. At at-large team is any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.
Note: in order to participate in a BCS Bowl game, a team (i) must be eligible for post-season play under the rules of the NCAA and, if it not an independent, under the rules of its Conference and (ii) must not have imposed sanctions upon itself prohibiting participation in a post-season game for infractions of the rules of the NCAA or the rules of its Conference.

Team-Selection Procedures

The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10 teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game ("NCG").

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:

Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

4. Any bowl with an unfilled slot shall select a team from the automatic qualifiers and/or at-large teams in the following order:

A. The bowl played on the date nearest to the National Championship Game in will pick first-in 2007, Sugar Bowl January 3;
B. The bowl played on the date second-nearest to the National Championship Game will pick second-in 2007, Orange Bowl January 2;
C. The bowl hosting the game that is played in the time slot immediately after the Rose Bowl game will pick third-in 2007, Fiesta Bowl.

The rotation noted in paragraphs A, B and C will be as follows:
January 2007 games: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta
January 2008 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar
January 2009 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2010 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar

All teams earning automatic berths must be selected. No more than two teams from any single Conference may play in BCS games in a single year, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large picks.

5. After completion of the selection process as described in Paragraph Nos. 1-4, the Conferences and Notre Dame may, but are not required to, adjust the pairings taking into consideration the following:

A. whether the same team will be playing in the same bowl game for two consecutive years;
B. whether two teams that played against one another in the regular season will be paired against one another in a bowl game;
C. whether the same two teams will play against each other in a bowl game for two consecutive years; and
D. whether alternative pairings may have greater or lesser appeal to college football fans as measured by expected ticket sales for the bowls and by expected television interest, and the consequent financial impact on Fox and the bowls.

 

[lattedatte]

Looks like #3...or possibly #4

Bowl Championship Series Selection Policies and Procedures, 2007-2010 Games:

Automatic Qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.

2. The champions of the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls after the 2006 and 2007 regular seasons.

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be in the pool of teams eligible for selection by the bowls as at-large teams.

4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.

5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

At-Large Teams

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. At at-large team is any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.
Note: in order to participate in a BCS Bowl game, a team (i) must be eligible for post-season play under the rules of the NCAA and, if it not an independent, under the rules of its Conference and (ii) must not have imposed sanctions upon itself prohibiting participation in a post-season game for infractions of the rules of the NCAA or the rules of its Conference.

Team-Selection Procedures

The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10 teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game ("NCG").

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:

Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

4. Any bowl with an unfilled slot shall select a team from the automatic qualifiers and/or at-large teams in the following order:

A. The bowl played on the date nearest to the National Championship Game in will pick first-in 2007, Sugar Bowl January 3;
B. The bowl played on the date second-nearest to the National Championship Game will pick second-in 2007, Orange Bowl January 2;
C. The bowl hosting the game that is played in the time slot immediately after the Rose Bowl game will pick third-in 2007, Fiesta Bowl.

The rotation noted in paragraphs A, B and C will be as follows:
January 2007 games: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta
January 2008 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar
January 2009 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2010 games: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar

All teams earning automatic berths must be selected. No more than two teams from any single Conference may play in BCS games in a single year, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large picks.

5. After completion of the selection process as described in Paragraph Nos. 1-4, the Conferences and Notre Dame may, but are not required to, adjust the pairings taking into consideration the following:

A. whether the same team will be playing in the same bowl game for two consecutive years;
B. whether two teams that played against one another in the regular season will be paired against one another in a bowl game;
C. whether the same two teams will play against each other in a bowl game for two consecutive years; and
D. whether alternative pairings may have greater or lesser appeal to college football fans as measured by expected ticket sales for the bowls and by expected television interest, and the consequent financial impact on Fox and the bowls.

TY!! so I guess they would have to "selected" as an at large.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

TY!! so I guess they would have to "selected" as an at large.

Yeah...and it's unlikely since they won't be in the top4.

ND needs to be in the top8 to be auto-selected. My suspicion is that we remain at #5 and that if we lose to USC we will drop to #10 or #11...still enough to qualify. If we win we stay in the top8 (obviously).

I think this is how it plays out...

NC Game - OSU vs ?
Rose - Michigan vs ? (Cal or USC)
Sugar - Florida or Arkansas vs ?
Orange - Louisville or Rutgers vs ? GT or Wake Forest
Fiesta - Texas or Nebraska vs ?

An important item is this:

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:

Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

 

[lattedatte]

Yeah...and it's unlikely since they won't be in the top4.

ND needs to be in the top8 to be auto-selected. My suspicion is that we remain at #5 and that if we lose to USC we will drop to #10 or #11...still enough to qualify. If we win we stay in the top8 (obviously).

I think this is how it plays out...

NC Game - OSU vs ?
Rose - Michigan vs ? (Cal or USC)
Sugar - Florida or Arkansas vs ?
Orange - Louisville or Rutgers vs ? GT or Wake Forest
Fiesta - Texas or Nebraska vs ?

An important item is this:

Good stuff, Thanks!!!

 

[tgolden]

Yea, Cincy!

 

[marv81s]

My Prediction:

BCS championship: osu vs mich
Sugar: ND vs Ark
Rose: USC vs Texas
Orange: GT vs Louisville
Fiesta: WV vs Boise State