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  1. Sea Turtle

    Immigration

    Yep. My first job was at 15 working on a farm. Doing fun things like cleaning horse stalls, feeding them hay, sitting on bulls to hold them down while they were castrated and stacking hay in barns.
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    Culture

    This guy is going to rob the wrong guy eventually and end up underground.
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    Undun and Hand me down world were a couple of others.
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    Good posts guys. Thanks. I'm thinking REO and the Guess Who should probably get in. Boston and BTO may be on the outside looking in. The hall of very good, as Peter King would say.
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    I was thinking about bands like REO Speedwagon, the Guess Who, Boston, and BTO the other day. Do you guys think they should be in the HOF?
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    Foreign Policy

    Thanks for the post. It comes down to this. There comes a time where the people you govern and claim to represent are suffering so badly by a war that you started, that you must capitulate to your enemy and end it. The only example that I can think of where a government took its entire...
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    Foreign Policy

    Why doesnt the world simply demand that Hamas surrender and end this?
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    Yeah, we've talked about those great bands. The Gunners and Metallica certainly overtook them. The others seem to be as big. The main point was just that Motley belonged in the HOF. Like them or not. That 'Looks That Kill' riff is still fire. It just grabs you.
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    Yes - Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Billy Idol No - Motorhead Others who should be in - Three Dog Night, Grand Funk Railroad, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, Alice in chains, John Denver and The Carpenters. It's become the popular music hall and fame. And if rappers, hip hoppers and folk artists are...
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    We need to talk about the real issue here. Garth Brooks has sold 170 million albums.
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    The closest is Tunica. Went there once. That doesn't surprise me about Vince. His little girl, Skylar, passed away and he went on a deeper downward spiral.
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    So I looked it up. Motley Crue and Van Halen have both sold 80 million albums, worldwide. They both deserve to be in the hall of fame. I can't believe 1984 wasn't number 1. When most people think of them at their absolute zenith, it was that era. But fair enough, 5150 went number 1. Yeah, I...
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    This isn't about who you think is better and who was awful though. Judas wasn't as BIG but they were big. Van Halen peaked in 1984 then Roth left. The Scorpions were not bigger. Poison was as big for half as long. Bon Jovi and Def as big? ok fine. The Gunners did overthrow them as biggest...
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    They weren't bigger than Motley until the Black Album. Here is what Google says. AI Overview +3 While Mötley Crüe was undoubtedly one of the most commercially successful and influential bands of the 1980s metal scene, it's difficult to definitively declare them the "biggest." Other bands...
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    RIP Joe Cocker

    Who was a bigger metal band from 1982-1992? Not better, that's subjective.
  16. Sea Turtle

    Immigration

    Well, there is a reason why it's now called Londonistan. I feel bad for liberals like Morrisey. They actually care.
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    Economy

    I rarely post on here anymore. When I go to politics, every topic's last post was by 'Ignored user'. I only have one on ignore. Someone needs to get a life.
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    Russia Invades Ukraine

    Yeah, this is an A B conversation, so C your way out of it 😆
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