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Easter we the 85th anniversary of the Irish uprising of 1916
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alaskandomer
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The leaders of the Easter Monday Rising all knew that there was absolutely no chance whatever of winning, yet they went out anyway. Why? Because the Irish people had to be shown that their country was worth fighting, and if need be, dying, for. They saw themselves as Ireland's "300 Spartans," as indeed they were.It was their executions that finally roused the Irish people to resist the occupiers and win the freedom of most of their country. God bless them all.
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The leaders of the Easter Monday Rising all knew that there was absolutely no chance whatever of winning, yet they went out anyway. Why? Because the Irish people had to be shown that their country was worth fighting, and if need be, dying, for. They saw themselves as Ireland's "300 Spartans," as indeed they were.It was their executions that finally roused the Irish people to resist the occupiers and win the freedom of most of their country. God bless them all.
God bless them.
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Thanks for posting this. Love the Wolfe Tones!
I believe it is actually the 95th anniversary of the Easter Rising (2016 which is five years away will be the Centennial). Among scholars, there is much debate as to whether the leadership of the rebellion believed there was a chance at military success or not versus that this was a necessary "blood sacrifice" to preserve the claim of the Irish Nation to a free and just independent Irish state. Until the capture of the Aud and the German arms aboard and MacNeil's confused countermanding orders on Saturday, most probably believed they could win.
I am reading a great new book by Fearghal McGarry, The Rising, Ireland: Easter 1916
(2010, Oxford University Press) which uses relatively recently released material from the Irish Military Archives as its basis. The materials amount to an oral history of the Rising through the eyes of rank and file members of the Irish Volunteers, Irish Citizen Army, IRB, Fianna Eireann, and Cumann na mBan as well as civilians, British soldiers and DMP men. It is an interesting read and gives a sense of what was going through the minds of those who gave their lives and so much more to reignite the flames of Irish Freedom and Independence in the early 20th Century.
"God Save Ireland cried the heroes..."
Tiocfaidh ár Lá
I believe it is actually the 95th anniversary of the Easter Rising (2016 which is five years away will be the Centennial). Among scholars, there is much debate as to whether the leadership of the rebellion believed there was a chance at military success or not versus that this was a necessary "blood sacrifice" to preserve the claim of the Irish Nation to a free and just independent Irish state. Until the capture of the Aud and the German arms aboard and MacNeil's confused countermanding orders on Saturday, most probably believed they could win.
I am reading a great new book by Fearghal McGarry, The Rising, Ireland: Easter 1916
(2010, Oxford University Press) which uses relatively recently released material from the Irish Military Archives as its basis. The materials amount to an oral history of the Rising through the eyes of rank and file members of the Irish Volunteers, Irish Citizen Army, IRB, Fianna Eireann, and Cumann na mBan as well as civilians, British soldiers and DMP men. It is an interesting read and gives a sense of what was going through the minds of those who gave their lives and so much more to reignite the flames of Irish Freedom and Independence in the early 20th Century.
"God Save Ireland cried the heroes..."
Tiocfaidh ár Lá
alaskandomer
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Thanks for posting this. Love the Wolfe Tones!
I believe it is actually the 95th anniversary of the Easter Rising (2016 which is five years away will be the Centennial). Among scholars, there is much debate as to whether the leadership of the rebellion believed there was a chance at military success or not versus that this was a necessary "blood sacrifice" to preserve the claim of the Irish Nation to a free and just independent Irish state. Until the capture of the Aud and the German arms aboard and MacNeil's confused countermanding orders on Saturday, most probably believed they could win.
I am reading a great new book by Fearghal McGarry, The Rising, Ireland: Easter 1916
(2010, Oxford University Press) which uses relatively recently released material from the Irish Military Archives as its basis. The materials amount to an oral history of the Rising through the eyes of rank and file members of the Irish Volunteers, Irish Citizen Army, IRB, Fianna Eireann, and Cumann na mBan as well as civilians, British soldiers and DMP men. It is an interesting read and gives a sense of what was going through the minds of those who gave their lives and so much more to reignite the flames of Irish Freedom and Independence in the early 20th Century.
"God Save Ireland cried the heroes..."
Tiocfaidh ár Lá
True. The capture of the Aud, and the weapons it carried, was what virtually eliminated the opportunity for military success. Yet these brave souls went out anyway. Pearse even predicted that it would be Brittain's brutal reaction to the rising which would win Ireland's freedom. Will have to pick this book up-sounds like a great read.
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Yes, at that point although they knew that there was no chance of military success they chose to go forward. All of Irish descent should remember them and thank them for their sacrifice. I wear my lily today.
Too long a sacrifice
Can make a stone of the heart.
O when may it suffice?
That is Heaven's part, our part
To murmur name upon name,
As a mother names her child...
No, no, not night but death;
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead;
And what if excess of love
Bewildered them till they died?
I write it out in a verse -
MacDonagh and MacBride
And Connolly and Pearse
Now and in time to be,
Wherever green is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.
Easter 1916
W.B. Yeats
Thanks again for commemorating this with your first post.
God Bless you as well as the Fenian and Republican martyrs of the past.
Soon, may a united Ireland enjoy lasting peace and justice.
Too long a sacrifice
Can make a stone of the heart.
O when may it suffice?
That is Heaven's part, our part
To murmur name upon name,
As a mother names her child...
No, no, not night but death;
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead;
And what if excess of love
Bewildered them till they died?
I write it out in a verse -
MacDonagh and MacBride
And Connolly and Pearse
Now and in time to be,
Wherever green is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.
Easter 1916
W.B. Yeats
Thanks again for commemorating this with your first post.
God Bless you as well as the Fenian and Republican martyrs of the past.
Soon, may a united Ireland enjoy lasting peace and justice.
alaskandomer
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Yes, at that point although they knew that there was no chance of military success they chose to go forward. All of Irish descent should remember them and thank them for their sacrifice. I wear my lily today.
Too long a sacrifice
Can make a stone of the heart.
O when may it suffice?
That is Heaven's part, our part
To murmur name upon name,
As a mother names her child...
No, no, not night but death;
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead;
And what if excess of love
Bewildered them till they died?
I write it out in a verse -
MacDonagh and MacBride
And Connolly and Pearse
Now and in time to be,
Wherever green is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.
Easter 1916
W.B. Yeats
Thanks again for commemorating this with your first post.
God Bless you as well as the Fenian and Republican martyrs of the past.
Soon, may a united Ireland enjoy lasting peace and justice.
Amen. .....They have left us our Fenian dead. And while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland, unfree, will never be at peace. 26+6 = 1