I hate to say this, but....

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I hate to even think it, but it is staring me in the face:

I think we are going to lose to every team with a good QB that we face.

The defense has not figured out how to put any pressure on opposing QBs, this year. That's not to say that they WON'T get it figured out. But, until they do, opposing QBs are going to have a lot of time to find open receivers. And the DBs cannot be expected to cover receivers all day long. This is going to force the defense to drop 7-8 guys into coverage on every play. That opens up the running game for opposing offenses. What you end up with is teams that nickel and dime their way down the field. Stanford averaged 6.1 yards per play. ND averaged 5.2. We all know that ND did not make many big plays at all. Neither did Stanford. Stanford nickeled and dimed their way down the field. The offense is going through the normal "growing pains" of implementing a new offensive system, while simultaneously breaking in a new QB. Combine those two factors, and you have the almost perfect storm, for a 5-7 season. Let's hope it doesn't work out that way, but it's certainly looking like a possibility.
 
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Quit watching....please. You're sounding more and more desperate and idiotic with each and every post. We genuinely don't need fans that need to jump on/off the bandwagon with up/downswings... We'll get over your departure...I assure you.
 

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(see my post titled Time to find the real fans) seems to me a few weeks ago guys were touting our D for making strides, and now this?
 

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I think it's more we have trouble with balanced offenses. Today wasn't a really good indicator either because Stanford has a hardcore offensive line...one of the best in the country. We were really getting after Cousins last week though.

UM, MSU, Stanford...all well balanced offenses with very good quarterbacks.

BC and Pitt....not so much.
 

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Quit watching....please. You're sounding more and more desperate and idiotic with each and every post. We genuinely don't need fans that need to jump on/off the bandwagon with up/downswings... We'll get over your departure...I assure you.

Just can't help yourself, can you? You have to follow me around like a little puppy dog, because you don't agree with the truths that I am speaking. I'll bet your the kind of fan who is more pissed about ND losing, because he takes some crap from his friends, than because he really wants to believe in everything ND stands for? Just because I am honest about the team's shortcomings, that doesn't make me a bandwagon fan.
 

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Quit watching....please. You're sounding more and more desperate and idiotic with each and every post. We genuinely don't need fans that need to jump on/off the bandwagon with up/downswings... We'll get over your departure...I assure you.

Pretty much sums it up for me too....
 

kmoose

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(see my post titled Time to find the real fans) seems to me a few weeks ago guys were touting our D for making strides, and now this?

The Defense HAS made strides, but that doesn't mean that they are good. A team that goes from 0-12 to 4-8 has made strides, but how many people would say that any 4-8 team is good? And it's just a feeling that I have. Like I said, I hate to believe it, but it's just something that really worries me.
 

kmoose

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I think it's more we have trouble with balanced offenses. Today wasn't a really good indicator either because Stanford has a hardcore offensive line...one of the best in the country. We were really getting after Cousins last week though.

UM, MSU, Stanford...all well balanced offenses with very good quarterbacks.

BC and Pitt....not so much.

I can buy into that. I think this D can gear up and stop the run, if they don't have to worry about a strong passing attack. But give good QBs enough time, and they are going to find an open receiver and get him the ball.
 

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I think people don't know the difference.

Bandwagon fan - Anyone who claims they are a "fan" of a particular sports team, even though they had no prior support for/interest in the team until that team started winning. These types of fans only show playoff interest, have probably never watched a regular season game, don't own any type of team merchandise, nor would they buy any.

Fair weather - Certain people who only watch a sports team when said sports team is having a winning season.
 

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Quit watching....please. You're sounding more and more desperate and idiotic with each and every post. We genuinely don't need fans that need to jump on/off the bandwagon with up/downswings... We'll get over your departure...I assure you.

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New to this forum but have been a ND fan most of my life [I'm 53] and I can tell you guys one thing. Until ND gets some speed on this team it's going to be the same old thing year after year. The days of smash-mouth football are over. It's all about speed at every level. High school, college and pros. You have to have team speed and that's it. Look at the teams in the top 5 in the country and tell me what they all have in common. SPEED!!!!
 

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New to this forum but have been a ND fan most of my life [I'm 53] and I can tell you guys one thing. Until ND gets some speed on this team it's going to be the same old thing year after year. The days of smash-mouth football are over. It's all about speed at every level. High school, college and pros. You have to have team speed and that's it. Look at the teams in the top 5 in the country and tell me what they all have in common. SPEED!!!!

Completely agreee, but from everythng I have seen on recruiting, BK knows this as well. He is recruiting the speed, and the guys he has committed so far all have size too. I know that everything is doom and gloom right now, but it really does look like BK is starting to build a beast in the future. It seems eerily similar to what Saban did in Alabama when he got there. I lived in SEC country when that all started and that was what all Bama fans were whining about his first year. Let BK get his systems implemented with his players before we declare him a failure. The team has made strides, but they started in that big of a hole. Keep the faith, and if you have no faith then just leave.
 

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I don't think its the QBs that kill us. What kills us, and has killed us the last 5 years was not being able to stop the run...

Our defensive yardage given up has dropped since the start of the year. Hell we got turnovers this game as well.. 80% on 3rd down? Oi. Hell that last TD drive was 11 plays...
 

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Trust me. I've been a ND fan longer than a lot of you guys have been around. And I don't care how optimistic you may be. The fact is when the opposing defense rushes 3 and gets to your QB, then you've got problems, one of which is the backs on this team couldn't block me.
 

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And to the ones on here that think we should be optimistic about the future; I remember the last game Lou coached at home and how he was FORCED out because some hair-brain thought Bob Davie was the man. I haven't been optimistic since 1996. Watch what you wish for. You may get it.
 
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