Our best chance at a Great 2010 season lies with Charlie

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Its funny to hear people say we have been in every game when the reality is...the six teams we have beat have a combined record of 20-25. Is that saying alot for our program? We kept games close against them and won? Impressive...that is sarcasism for those that care.

Easy man. A w is a w.
 

Dacian_Irish

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Its funny to hear people say we have been in every game when the reality is...the six teams we have beat have a combined record of 20-25. Is that saying alot for our program? We kept games close against them and won? Impressive...that is sarcasism for those that care.

I think your "glass half empty" approach is sad!

If you can't take it........ DONT WATCH!!!!!!!!!

Any REAL fan would believe even when the odds are against us!
 

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I think your "glass half empty" approach is sad!

If you can't take it........ DONT WATCH!!!!!!!!!

Any REAL fan would believe even when the odds are against us!


I can take it, pal. Can you? Obviously you dont have the courage to make a change for the betterment of Notre Dame. But dont worry, there are those of us that do. Sit back..relax..and let us do the hard work.
 

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I can take it, pal. Can you? Obviously you dont have the courage to make a change for the betterment of Notre Dame. But dont worry, there are those of us that do. Sit back..relax..and let us do the hard work.

You realize that simply firing someone will not fix anything. Also you are not part of the decision so what hard work are you talking about?
 

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My problem is that when i play sports, i play because i love to play i want to win no matter what and i want to win for my school,my team, my pride, my ego, and my family, so when the players say the other team wanted it more than is sad because everything i said prior should be enough to beat ur grandma at backgammon, let alon a division 1 college football game as a member of the mecca of college football.
Maybe i am watching a different team because they seem to really love Weis. Not that BS Tebow is my son like Urban does but a real relationship
 

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You realize keeping Weis wont make us a legitamte team. And by power, we have it in numbers, lets see if i get my wish and we force Weis out.
 

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You realize keeping Weis wont make us a legitamte team. And by power, we have it in numbers, lets see if i get my wish and we force Weis out.

I dont know how many times i have said this to you but firing Weis without a real plan will leave us worse off. There is more to this type of decision
 

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I can take it, pal. Can you? Obviously you dont have the courage to make a change for the betterment of Notre Dame. But dont worry, there are those of us that do. Sit back..relax..and let us do the hard work.

We're all awaiting your contribution to our hiring a new coach.
 

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I can take it, pal. Can you? Obviously you dont have the courage to make a change for the betterment of Notre Dame. But dont worry, there are those of us that do. Sit back..relax..and let us do the hard work.

Ok Steelerboy I guess your saying we should all quit and start all over because at this point its over! 9-3 or 8-4 is such a disappointing season!

So should all these other schools fire their coach also: (they are 6-3 at best also)
Georgia
Virginia Tech
Cal
Oklahoma


All I am saying is wait until it is justified, after the season to say fire a coach. Especially if their is a chance we can go 9-3.

What hard work are you talking about.......
 
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All of those teams have
A. not the standard and national attention of Notre Dame
B. coaches that have proved that they are winners and that this is just a down year, not a trend.
 

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I agree that a Weis's status should wait till after the season to see how the team responds. Unfortunately some people are too irrational to understand that, but at this point Swarbick should be calling people and lining up potential candidates if Weis does get fired. Wecan not afford to make a bad hire right now with so much talent on the team. Wealso cant sit and wait while our recruits are taken away because we dont have a coach
 

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Talk about cal wtf has tedford done that wies hasn't hes had a few very subpar years and one good year 10-2
 
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I'm assuming that Swarbrick has already contacted people like Kelly or Stoops or maybe even the Florida coach (not saying his name until verified reports have him as a possibility) to ask about the ND job. White messed up with the Willingham scenario, and we don't want to see a repeat of that.
 

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Like your positive post Mick and everyone should be lining up behind you wanting the same thing. If CW wins out then he stays for sure and I think all the players do as well. The NAvy game was a fluke and we will be looking to take it out on someone. Not sure what to think if CW loses another game though. Even if he does win out if the D doesn't really show improvement I would like to see a change at DC. What do you think? Keep the positive attitude we need it.

Losing to Navy 2 out of 3 years is not a fluke. Especially at home.

Ok Steelerboy I guess your saying we should all quit and start all over because at this point its over! 9-3 or 8-4 is such a disappointing season!

So should all these other schools fire their coach also: (they are 6-3 at best also)
Georgia
Virginia Tech
Cal
Oklahoma


All I am saying is wait until it is justified, after the season to say fire a coach. Especially if their is a chance we can go 9-3.

What hard work are you talking about.......

Oklahoma and Georgia have had great seasons, those particular coaches have earned the right to have a rough year.
 

mick2

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I'm assuming that Swarbrick has already contacted people like Kelly or Stoops or maybe even the Florida coach (not saying his name until verified reports have him as a possibility) to ask about the ND job. White messed up with the Willingham scenario, and we don't want to see a repeat of that.

man i hope you are wrong. I think the administration will give charlie and his prized recruiting class the jimmy/tate class the full shot at this thing.

I think we are on pretty solid ground and have shown much progress since the 2007 debacle, this all depends of course on how we end the season. But i truly believe charlie will be back in 2010.

heck after this saturday all these weis threads will be on page 2 or 3 of the board.
 
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Guys, Clausen and Tate are probably gone. 99.9% sure. Don't expect them to come back. You'll only be disappointed come January.
 

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Guys, Clausen and Tate are probably gone. 99.9% sure. Don't expect them to come back. You'll only be disappointed come January.

Tate's not even ranked in the top 5 for JUNIOR wrs. Not saying that he shouldn't be, because honestly I would take him mid to late first round if my team needed a wr but the "experts" still don't think that highly of him.
 
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His stock will plummet if he can't have a good year with a new QB. It would be best for him to take the second round money and not risk dropping. He's a mid-second rounder.
 

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Why do you automatically assume everyone would leave if Weis is canned?

Even so, these 4 and 5 star recruits are looking at another 7-5 campaign.

You mean to tell me if they did hire a Jon Gruden that these guys would bolt from him?

I honestly think the team is starting to see Weis is bullshit and theyre sick of it.

Why are you assuming a 7-5 campaign?
 

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You realize keeping Weis wont make us a legitamte team. And by power, we have it in numbers, lets see if i get my wish and we force Weis out.

this guy is a genius, we should hire him as our next coach.....








can you sense the sarcasm. get this troll out of here.
 

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Why do you automatically assume everyone would leave if Weis is canned?

Even so, these 4 and 5 star recruits are looking at another 7-5 campaign.

You mean to tell me if they did hire a Jon Gruden that these guys would bolt from him?

I honestly think the team is starting to see Weis is bullshit and theyre sick of it.

I have not read a single interview of the players that would back that up. Matter if fact in today's SBT, it was just the opposite. They love CW and do not blame him for the loss. He has not lost these guys at all. Matter of fact the same report has Jimmy texting CW saying he should not have fumbled at the goal line ahinst Navy.
 

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I have not read a single interview of the players that would back that up. Matter if fact in today's SBT, it was just the opposite. They love CW and do not blame him for the loss. He has not lost these guys at all. Matter of fact the same report has Jimmy texting CW saying he should not have fumbled at the goal line ahinst Navy.



Well. What do you expect? Them to freak out and say "we want another coach, this guy stinks". That won't ever happen, especially at Notre Dame. I'm sure CW is a great guy, and cares for his players. I'm sure he helps them out and is a good father figure to them, but they have got to see the talent around them and no they could be doing better. He has done nothing to warrant any kind of hate, and I am sure they'd be sad to him go, but I think they would enjoy having a good coach both on and off the field who will get the most out of there talent. They did not come to Notre Dame to make a new 55 year old friend/father figure. They came to win BCS games, national titles, and ultimately go down in history and live forever with those great ND legends before them. They are at Notre Dame to chase a dream that we all wish we could live. Not make friends.
 

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Well. What do you expect? Them to freak out and say "we want another coach, this guy stinks". That won't ever happen, especially at Notre Dame. I'm sure CW is a great guy, and cares for his players. I'm sure he helps them out and is a good father figure to them, but they have got to see the talent around them and no they could be doing better. He has done nothing to warrant any kind of hate, and I am sure they'd be sad to him go, but I think they would enjoy having a good coach both on and off the field who will get the most out of there talent. They did not come to Notre Dame to make a new 55 year old friend/father figure. They came to win BCS games, national titles, and ultimately go down in history and live forever with those great ND legends before them. They are at Notre Dame to chase a dream that we all wish we could live. Not make friends.

Then maybe they should take some responsibility on themselves, and run, block, and tackle better?
 

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IF Jimmy comes back Weis will be back. kmoose, totally agree, players need to play football and take responsibility. Funny how these same defensive players suck all year and now against Navy some of them start blaming coaches. Tackle and loooook for the ball when in coverage. BRIAN SMITH where have you gone?
 

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What kills me about all of this is the turmoil th CW subject brings to this program. If he goes or stays isn't up to us and all this back and forth just takes away from the best part of the year, I wait all summer going nuts just to watch The Irish play. I think everyone is too consumed and at each other's throats about this. After all we all want the same thing in the end.
 
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