Hawaii Coach Slams ND - And Is A Moron

[jason_h537]

I think NDinLa is an f word and an h word and a b word. And an n word. That's what I think. And Jason is an ill eagle alien. With a driver's license.

yeah and your mom got shot when you were a baby. Orphan!!!!!

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Nailed it.

My wife's brother is gay, and the first time he visited Los Angeles from Chicago he came to my buddy's house for a St. Patrick's Day get-together. Incidentally, the NCAA tourney was on. So it's my buddies and a ton of alcohol, plus UCLA was playing FL. I prepped my friends on not using the 'f' word, which was really hard for them. So when UCLA forward Josh Shipp lays an egg, who's the first one to scream at him when they bench him? Me of course, all buzzed, calling him the 'f' word, while my then girlfriend tried to get me to shut up as her brother looked on!!! And later, when the alcohol really started flowing, the 'f' bombs came out again, this time from my buddy (best man at our wedding LOL) when they showed Shipp on ESPN, with my drunk friend repeatedly calling him the 'f' word as we tried to hint at him to shut the hell up.

To his credit, her brother took it all in stride and was great about it. I apologized and the party was actually great, save for our moments of stupidity/homophobia. But imagine if you were him? The 'f' word is a synonym for anything derogatory that guys love to use, and we used it right in front of him. How awkward must he have felt? Think about a word that would humiliate you, and think about people using it over and over again, right in front of you. From that day, I don't use that word anymore, or at least I try really, really hard not to use it (when you've played sports all your life that word has been ingrained in you, unfortunately).

But as a head coach of a university, you damn sure better not use that word. It's extremely offensive, whether you agree with that lifestyle or not. He knew he screwed up, thus the lame-ass cover up that was almost as appalling as his language. He deserved the suspension IMO, and he's lucky he still has a job. If that were CW, you can bet your sweet ass that he would be fighting for his job right now...

Okay, first of all, how cool is it to be able to start this post off saying "My wife's brother..."? Took me a while to get used to saying "my wife". Felt very cool and very strange all at the same time.

On the topic of the thread, can't agree with you more. I feel the same way about the word "retard". That is a word I have used since probably the third grade. Now, I have a nephew that is severely mentally challenged and that word has taken on a whole new meaning and has become quite offensive to me. I try like hell not to say it myself, but when it slips out, I feel very guilty. The same with the word fag. Unless I am in London referring to a cigarette, I feel very bad when I hear myself say that word. I have a few gay friends and I don't like it when certain words are ingrained in my vocabulary like those.

I didn't even think of the point that if it had been CW, he would be all but strung up in the town square, but that is a very good statement.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Okay, first of all, how cool is it to be able to start this post off saying "My wife's brother..."? Took me a while to get used to saying "my wife". Felt very cool and very strange all at the same time.

On the topic of the thread, can't agree with you more. I feel the same way about the word "retard". That is a word I have used since probably the third grade. Now, I have a nephew that is severely mentally challenged and that word has taken on a whole new meaning and has become quite offensive to me. I try like hell not to say it myself, but when it slips out, I feel very guilty. The same with the word fag. Unless I am in London referring to a cigarette, I feel very bad when I hear myself say that word. I have a few gay friends and I don't like it when certain words are ingrained in my vocabulary like those.

I didn't even think of the point that if it had been CW, he would be all but strung up in the town square, but that is a very good statement.

How about this GoIrish: Sunday I went water-rafting with my wife's best friend and her friend's family. They have an adult brother w/ Down's Syndrome. He's very intelligent and has a job, but he clearly has DS. I've hung out with him plenty of times, and I tried to engage him the whole time. So I'm going down the river with all these South Benders, and I have no friggin clue what I'm doing, and they're all laughing at me (all in good fun). When we're done I tell them, "Damn, I felt retarded, I had no clue how to even hold the damn paddle!"

I didn't say it too loud, so most didn't even hear, but I apologized immediately and felt like such a jerk. They were totally cool and told me not to worry about it, which was great of them, but I still felt like an ass. It's just when you've used those words your entire life, it's tough to get out of the habit of saying them.

But that doesn't give the Hawaii coach an excuse. In job interviews, at school, at work, you simply don't use that type of language. He wasn't watching ESPN w/ his buddies or rafting down the river with family, he was at work. Those reporters aren't his peeps; it was a work setting. Imagine how he talks with his buddies watching a ball game putting down a few beers? Like I said, dude is a moron...

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

But that doesn't give the Hawaii coach an excuse. In job interviews, at school, at work, you simply don't use that type of language. He wasn't watching ESPN w/ his buddies or rafting down the river with family, he was at work. Those reporters aren't his peeps; it was a work setting. Imagine how he talks with his buddies watching a ball game putting down a few beers? Like I said, dude is a moron...

Exactly!!! You are so on point with this. I am not perfect. I say things I shouldn't and I do things with certain friends I would never do at work or in mixed company.

My wife's mom was Jewish. Not practicing, but she escaped from Hungary back in the 40's during the German occupation. In fact, the diamond in my wife's wedding ring is one of the pieces of jewelry her mom took with her in case she needed to pay off the Nazi guards. While she was sent to sneak out of Hungary, her grandparents ended up being sent to Buchenwald concentration camp and perished there.

Long story, but when we were newly dating, my wife and I went out with some mutual friends for dinner and one of my buddies didn't chip in enough money. To bust his balls a bit, I crudely said, "Don't be such a jew!" I felt so bad. My wife didn't really mind because she knew I didn't really mean anything by it, but I still felt like I was way out of line.

Our society makes such a big deal out of the "N"-word, but there are a lot of terms in common usage that do not evoke the same kind of emotion, but can be equally hurtful and offensive.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

yeah and your mom got shot when you were a baby. Orphan!!!!!

Ooh. You B word! Add Q word and an S word to the list. Maybe a Q word. I hate it when people call me the O word.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

GoIrish!!! and NDinLA, I know exactly what you mean. Every time I punch a puppy after ND loses, even though I know I'm wrong and will feel guilty about it, I still do it. I'm an F word that way.