LOVEMYIRISH
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If we have Top10 talent, then we have the talent to go the BCS and win.
It's not a question of talent.
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If we have Top10 talent, then we have the talent to go the BCS and win.
It's not a question of talent.
IrishAddiction
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still cant get players here that beat our team(Baldwin) and the last time we should have made a national championship run we didnt because we couldnt admit some dumb guy named Randy Moss. Sorry, im not buying the bs.
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It's not the players that are beating our team...it's our team not executing and our coaches not coaching well enough.
We have the talent. Pitt had maybe 3 or 4 guys we would have wanted...maybe. (Baldwin was one)
Was there anyone on the Syracuse squad that we would have recruited? No. We had better players at almost every single position...
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LMI you dont get the point at all. I never said our team not executing or our sucky coaching wasnt a problem, they are just 2 of many problems ND has right now. How many national championships has notre dame won, or even competed for, since nd raised the academic standards in the mid 90s? ZERO!!!!!zero zero. if you are trying to say that notre dames football prestige has not been affected by the academic standards, its utter stupidity.
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Why are you even saying that ND raised the academic standards? That's not true. That's why you are confusing people including me.
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LMI, define academic standards. Does it mean "better " teachers/professors, or "better" students/athletes/artists/pups? Quest for status or quest for a truth of sort?.
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BECAUSE the academic standards WERE raised back up following the 1995 season. Tony Rices scores would have never let him in the university today, and the academic standards were relaxed in the late 80s early 90s(remember those days when we were competitive?) Dont take my word for it, take it from the mouth of allen pinkett who was an all american running back in the mid 80s.
"I know what he was saying. I think what you can do is track it back to the last time Notre Dame won a national championship [1988]. During that time, they relaxed the standards for players to get into Notre Dame. Some of the players that played on those squads wouldn't get in today. The thing is, some of those players turned out to be some of the best ambassadors the school has ever had. So, I think what Paul is saying is that relaxing the academic standards puts you in touch with a larger pool of players you can recruit. Right now, there are a number of players they can't recruit because they can't get in."
Or hell why not take it from the mouth of former coach Bob Davie on what the administration wanted him to do as coach....
"They desperately wanted to compare themselves to Duke and Stanford in the classroom, but they also wanted to be like Nebraska and Miami on the football field."
Believe them? To name some more great ND players that might have never been admitted without lower standards here ya go, direct from the article......"Todd Lyght (cornerback), Tony Rice (quarterback), Raghib Ismail (wide receiver), Bryant Young (defensive lineman) and Jerome Bettis (running back) are just five examples of very good players admitted with less than stellar academic backgrounds"
The Paul Hornung Brouhaha - Notre Dame - recruit black athletes, lower standards, affirmative action, Tony Rice, Proposition 48, Lou Holtz, 1988, Miami white players, racism, quotas, admissions, admit
Face it LMI, academics were raised with proposition 48, and Notre Dame decided to raise theirs even higher. Quit trying to be so proud, and just admit when you are wrong.
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Hey, I agree a few guys who were great were not top scholars.
But there is simply no proof that ND raised standards. Prop 48 passed in 1988 and in 1993 we were still contending for the title in a big way.
And yet again, I remind you that we are getting Top10 athletes now.
Davie's problem was that he was a bad coach, not that he lacked talented players.
But there is simply no proof that ND raised standards. Prop 48 passed in 1988 and in 1993 we were still contending for the title in a big way.
And yet again, I remind you that we are getting Top10 athletes now.
Davie's problem was that he was a bad coach, not that he lacked talented players.