Charlie, Play Action and Jimmy's Mechanics

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I promised myself this season that I would let the team play it out before I went on a "change" rant. I'll try to stick to that. But let me make three observations that have a basis in fact.

Charlie: This is year 4. A guy like Paul Johnson takes over at Georgia Tech, installs a whole new offense that requires different kinds of players and he's knocking on the ACC championship door his first year. There are other examples that make the litany of excuses on this site wear a little thin.

Play Action: Other guys have touched on it here. And I mentioned it in an earlier rather elegant post that you guys consigned to the trash heap. It's terrible. Jimmy executes with absolutely no effective mis-direction. And that's a killer inside the 10 or 3rd/4th and short. I used Mark Rypien's beautiful ball control as an example. He never took a play off. He was a master. On those mission-critical run or pass opportunities Ryp's set up work really paid off. And that is just coaching and discipline. No excuses.

Jimmy's Mechanics:
I tell ya, I was really impressed with Jimmy's TD throws. Even Golden Tate's miricle catch was made on a perfectly delivered ball. Clausen can throw a really nice ball when given the time. Jimmy is also starting to step up to avoid the rush which is a good thing.

However, over the past few weeks, I've been doing a compare and contrast with QB's on the other games that I watch to see why some guys may be more effective that Jimmy. I'll use the dynamite Texas - Texas Tech game as reference. Here's a difference:

When Jimmy bolts to evade the rush, he moves full bore towards the sideline. And because of that scramble style, his shoulders are parallel to the sideline. And that makes it much more difficult for him to square up and throw the ball. And that is exacerbated by his "windup" style which requires squared shoulders to execute the range of motion. You notice that when he does throw off balance, it's usually to dump the ball out of bounds.

In contrast, the Texas Tech kid would not immediately scramble under pressure. Rather he would first "evade" with a seven to 10 yard shuffle to either side, looking downfield and keeping his shoulders still mostly squared for a toss downfield. That quicker escape and recover move allowed him to spot secondary recievers still executing their patterns.

Jimmy's full scramble however generally means that the receiver patterns have all broken down by the time he squares and looks downfield. So the chaos that we see on those plays. Some of this technique can be ascribed to Jimmy's foot speed, but a lot of it again is coaching.

Conclusion: I see two mechanical coaching deficits, execution management of play fakes and managed recovery of pass play breakdown.

SteveM
 
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Interesting observations. I see that too. Good post. I think he telegraphs the run too. Maybe he can work that out.
 

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You make some valid points. The hand-off thing is a coaching thing; it's not Jimmy's fault. I think you mentioned that, but let's just reiterate that the offensive coaches are telling him to do that.

One thing I will disagree with is your comparison to GT's Paul Johnson. You say PJ has turned around the program in year one, but didn't CW do the exact same thing, if not better, in year one? So how is that a valid comparison? Didn't CW take us to a BCS bowl his first 2 years? GT ain't going to a BCS game unless they sneak in through the back door getting an ACC championship (which is akin to the Cincinnati Bengals winning NFL Europe). You say this is year 4, so in PJ's 4th year, make the comparison.

Also, the TT QB is a 23 year-old senior. He played a great game, and he looks fantastic in that offense, and you pointed out his excellence on the move. Hopefully Jimmy, with 2 and 1/3 seasons left in his college career, will get to that point. I have all the faith that he will. (And until one of those TT QB's makes it in the pros, they are all system QB's to me. The spread in the form they use it has yet to win a championship. However, if they run the ball like they did last night they are a nightmare to guard. I say they lose 2 more times this year, but I digress).
 
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You make some valid points. The hand-off thing is a coaching thing; it's not Jimmy's fault. I think you mentioned that, but let's just reiterate that the offensive coaches are telling him to do that.

One thing I will disagree with is your comparison to GT's Paul Johnson. You say PJ has turned around the program in year one, but didn't CW do the exact same thing, if not better, in year one? So how is that a valid comparison? Didn't CW take us to a BCS bowl his first 2 years? GT ain't going to a BCS game unless they sneak in through the back door getting an ACC championship (which is akin to the Cincinnati Bengals winning NFL Europe). You say this is year 4, so in PJ's 4th year, make the comparison.

Also, the TT QB is a 23 year-old senior. He played a great game, and he looks fantastic in that offense, and you pointed out his excellence on the move. Hopefully Jimmy, with 2 and 1/3 seasons left in his college career, will get to that point. I have all the faith that he will. (And until one of those TT QB's makes it in the pros, they are all system QB's to me. The spread in the form they use it has yet to win a championship. However, if they run the ball like they did last night they are a nightmare to guard. I say they lose 2 more times this year, but I digress).

Not to mention that Johnson isn't hamstrung with admissions the same way that Charlie is. That's an apples to oranges comparison. Otherwise, a very fair assessment.
 
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Out on Parole...

Not to mention that Johnson isn't hamstrung with admissions the same way that Charlie is. That's an apples to oranges comparison. Otherwise, a very fair assessment.

Now that is Excuse-Ville run wild. Johnson came out of Navy and is coaching at Georgia Tech! An urban school with a great academic rep! And what kind of guy do you think Johnson is?

The every-school-that-is-not-ND-is-a-thug-academy is running really lame.

I've about had it with this ND exceptionalism as rationalization crap. ND is special. But if it's that much apples and oranges - let's drop to D-1AA and play Holy Cross and Georgetown. I dare you apples and oranges guys to advocate that.

Life ain't fair. Pick one.

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Now that is Excuse-Ville run wild. Johnson came out of Navy and is coaching at Georgia Tech! An urban school with a great academic rep! And what kind of guy do think Johnson is?

The every-school-that-is-not-ND-is-a-thug-academy is running really lame.

I've about had it with this ND exceptionalism as rationalization crap. ND is special. But if it's that much apples and oranges - let's drop to D-1AA and play Holy Cross and Georgetown. I dare you apples and oranges guys to advocate that.

Life ain't fair. Pick one.

SteveM

Soooooooo, CW wins in year one and takes us to a BCS game, and Paul Johnson is having a good year and might take them to a BCS game, and therefore PJ is better than CW. Is that what you are saying? You brought it up, and yet you ignore it when someone else argues against you is beyond me. You get angry when people speak the truth, which is many programs can recruit players ND can't. It's the truth. And you'll never hear me say that all non-ND schools have rosters full of thugs, 'cause it's obviously not true. But look at the police reports of teams like Alabama (oh my, way to go Satan), USC (I work across the street and know many people within the program), Texas (check out the players from their NC team; scores have been arrested), and Florida (see: Texas). ND has a kid w/ a DUI who just got screwed by overzealous cops, and..........and..........and, well, damn, that's all I can think of. If you want to ignore that, fine. But don't get mad when it's brought up.

BTW, you're right, we shouldn't use that as an excuse every time we lose. Hell no. But when people rip CW and then say that Satan and Butch Davis are winning early, well, there's a reason for that besides coaching. Can't ignore it. Sorry Steve...
 

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I consider Georgia Tech in the same catagory recruit wise as ND. They have standards. Several schools do. I agree not all other programs are thugs. But some are using pro age players. We do have as many advantages as disadvantages in recruiting. We have a good program. We need to hold it together long enough to get the recruiting pipeline going again. So we can just reload instead of rebuild.
 
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